M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

[President Eden]

DEADLINE MOVED 24 H EARLIER

[brainbomb]

N2
claims he thinks damo is clearly dance partners with me (to fake a towntell)

I did think that, and I explained why at the time.

What do you mean "to fake a towntell", I don't follow?

the fake towntell would be pretending not to know who damo partner is and claim they are 1000% town anyway.

[brainbomb]

if you were that certain damo was scum why did you stop pursuing that day 1? you were 1000% convinced.
unless im to assume that was just a joke and was never serious

[Jamiet99uk]

N2
claims he thinks damo is clearly dance partners with me (to fake a towntell)

I did think that, and I explained why at the time.

What do you mean "to fake a towntell", I don't follow?

the fake towntell would be pretending not to know who damo partner is and claim they are 1000% town anyway.

Why would that be a towntell for me?

[Jamiet99uk]

if you were that certain damo was scum why did you stop pursuing that day 1? you were 1000% convinced.
unless im to assume that was just a joke and was never serious

Reads change. That's not scummy.

[brainbomb]

I did think that, and I explained why at the time.

What do you mean "to fake a towntell", I don't follow?

the fake towntell would be pretending not to know who damo partner is and claim they are 1000% town anyway.

Why would that be a towntell for me?

because it would be your way of open wolfing and trying to play dumb in the thread

[brainbomb]

I fear I have sucked all wind out of the game which was not my intent.

in the event I do die I would caution not to just assume its Jamie as this killer has shown a tendency to kill based on what makes people look bad.

At this point
I think Rhk is town
I would say Bunny is town
Ezio is town unless still alive by F3 and if he is; you must kill him
chaqa is really hard to see being mafia here and has a long way to go
worcej could be scum for all the performative end hammers
rdrivera is my chat partner and is lurky a bit. I would say town but I also totally understand why people think hes scummy

I do think Jamie is mafia I think he bussed damo and said damos partner is 1000% royalist. He then moved away from even talking about that to push vecna. then when a hamilton case came along he went crazy and tried to claim flipping me first was the better play and when damo did it he didnt join it- because he was scum with damo. Jamie tried to tie it and then sensed hamilton was gonna go so he hopped on. the next night he cased me as being scum then backed off of it. by day 2 he was pushing ghug and then saw a end hammer brigade come after him. thinking that he usually gets mad he chose to get very angry and use emotion to get townread. after his wagon died he went after ghug and then he began focusing on the aaro-damo-ghug stuff choosing aaro. and he stayed on aaro as the wagons remained tied until aaro took off. but he didnt want to be on the aaro wagon so he busses damo to tie it.
then after tying it he tries a ghug wagon to get another option going and when ghug is nearing the tipping point he pushes damo because he sees damo can just tie it and allows damo to do so.

it would be towny for jamie to do all this until you see day 3 jamie no longer scumreads damo at all and wants instead to kill ezio who has actually been pushing damo the most.

[BunnyGo]

Jamie is possible, I guess.

I think Ezio, RHK, and Bunny are completely out of the PoE for me.

Can you remind me why Ezio and RHK? I didn't follow when I couldn't ask. Just noted you did.

Both were instrumental in voting out Damo.

I don't think Damo was under enough suspicion to do that, but maybe.

So purely VCA?

Is there anyone whose VCA you don't like?

Is there anyone who you were town/scum reading DESPITE VCA?

[BunnyGo]

Can you explain how, by voting for Damo, who was scum, I was trying to cause a tie to save Damo?

You're arguing I saved Damo by voting him.

because you know he can just vote to save himself in that vca

Why didn't ghug vote damo? That was the final thing that got me to tunnel on ghug? He was around...

[BunnyGo]

Hi Ezio!

[brainbomb]

Vecna (4) aarodactyl Ezio Jamiet99uk Hamilton Brian
ghug (3) worcej* Chaqa sweetandcool
Chaqa (3) damo666 ghug brainbomb

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will be curious if we get some subs or modkills here also
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[brainbomb]

Vecna (4) aarodactyl Ezio Jamiet99uk Hamilton Brian
ghug (3) worcej* Chaqa sweetandcool
Chaqa (3) damo666 ghug brainbomb

Not voting :
DemonRHK, Vecna, rdrivera2005

So the question comes down to
was scum wanting vecna to die, was scum wanting both vecna and ghug to be wagons here or was scum three not even voting yet.

[brainbomb]

Considering eod is in 3 hours, it would be nice for rdr and vecna to show up and vote.

You are right. Right now will ##vote HB

Chaqa and rivera have moved to Hamilton now.

Vecna (4) aarodactyl Ezio Jamiet99uk Hamilton Brian
Chaqa (3) damo666 ghug brainbomb
ghug (2) worcej* sweetandcool
HamiltonBrian (2) Chaqa, rdrivera2005

Not voting :
DemonRHK, Vecna

[brainbomb]

VOTE COUNT THE SECOND
Damo puts vecna in the lead to help Hamilton here.

Vecna (4): Ezio, Jamiet99uk, Hamilton Brian, damo666
ghug (2): worcej*, sweetandcool
Hamilton Brian (2): Chaqa, rdrivera2005
No-Kill (1): DemonRHK
aarodactyl (1): Kakarroto
Kakarroto (1): aarodactyl
rdrivera2005 (1): brainbomb
Chaqa: (1) ghug

Worcej is voting to end.

Vecna has not voted.

The way it stands Vecna can tie the vote.

If Vecna votes Chaqa, Chaqa can move to Vecna (or let the vote be tied but that would smell of ChaqaVecna scumpair) but if Vecna votes ghug Chaqa can move to ghug which is a result I don't want so I think I have to move to Vecna.

##vote Vecna

Happy to move back to Chaqa if his wagon motors.

Damo hops of chaqa two times to push vecna and then to push me. But this move makes it obvious scum wanted vecna dying for inactivity and damo is trying to make things happen.

For jamie or ezio to be scum it means all three scum are voting vecna here for a moment. Is that why damo hops back off? If he wants Jamie to join a brainbomb flash wagon; that would remove a voter from vecna. So does this mean damo knows Jamie isnt moving because he is buddies with Jamie? I would say yes but its definetely not conclusive

[worcej]

Dearest worcej,

You have spent three out of four days hammering a town flip. Do you have any appraisals in retrospect?

Appraisals? That my scum reads on ghug and aaro were incorrect? I had warmed up a lot on ghug from N1 on, but we're at 1 scum left and ghug was a consensus need to flip, so I am not upset he was actually town...

I told everyone I'm voting every meaningful vote as an end vote.

[worcej]

I fear I have sucked all wind out of the game which was not my intent.

in the event I do die I would caution not to just assume its Jamie as this killer has shown a tendency to kill based on what makes people look bad.

At this point
I think Rhk is town
I would say Bunny is town
Ezio is town unless still alive by F3 and if he is; you must kill him
chaqa is really hard to see being mafia here and has a long way to go
worcej could be scum for all the performative end hammers
rdrivera is my chat partner and is lurky a bit. I would say town but I also totally understand why people think hes scummy

I do think Jamie is mafia I think he bussed damo and said damos partner is 1000% royalist. He then moved away from even talking about that to push vecna. then when a hamilton case came along he went crazy and tried to claim flipping me first was the better play and when damo did it he didnt join it- because he was scum with damo. Jamie tried to tie it and then sensed hamilton was gonna go so he hopped on. the next night he cased me as being scum then backed off of it. by day 2 he was pushing ghug and then saw a end hammer brigade come after him. thinking that he usually gets mad he chose to get very angry and use emotion to get townread. after his wagon died he went after ghug and then he began focusing on the aaro-damo-ghug stuff choosing aaro. and he stayed on aaro as the wagons remained tied until aaro took off. but he didnt want to be on the aaro wagon so he busses damo to tie it.
then after tying it he tries a ghug wagon to get another option going and when ghug is nearing the tipping point he pushes damo because he sees damo can just tie it and allows damo to do so.

it would be towny for jamie to do all this until you see day 3 jamie no longer scumreads damo at all and wants instead to kill ezio who has actually been pushing damo the most.

I don't think you've sucked the air out yourself - the game is in a low energy state atm due to the nature of how these days have progressed.

I think you're doing good work now and I'm currently trying to VCA and try to assess who the last scum is. My only issue is I go back and forth between "did the last scum intentionally distance" and "did they loosely interact with the team?"

[brainbomb]

Vecna is belatedly making an effort.

##Vote Damo

Now theres a flurry of vote changes
I go back to chaqa
Jamie votes damo and says vecna deserves more time

ghug (3): worcej*, sweetandcool, aarodactyl
Chaqa (3): damo666, ghug, brainbomb
Vecna (2): Ezio, Hamilton Brian
Hamilton Brian (2): Chaqa, rdrivera2005
No-Kill (1): DemonRHK
aarodactyl (1): Kakarroto
damo666: (1) Jamiet99uk

Worcej is voting to end.

Vecna has not voted.
——

Jamie vote puts it at a tie. ghug and chaqa.

[worcej]

VOTE COUNT THE SECOND
Damo puts vecna in the lead to help Hamilton here.

Vecna (4): Ezio, Jamiet99uk, Hamilton Brian, damo666
ghug (2): worcej*, sweetandcool
Hamilton Brian (2): Chaqa, rdrivera2005
No-Kill (1): DemonRHK
aarodactyl (1): Kakarroto
Kakarroto (1): aarodactyl
rdrivera2005 (1): brainbomb
Chaqa: (1) ghug

Worcej is voting to end.

Vecna has not voted.

The way it stands Vecna can tie the vote.

If Vecna votes Chaqa, Chaqa can move to Vecna (or let the vote be tied but that would smell of ChaqaVecna scumpair) but if Vecna votes ghug Chaqa can move to ghug which is a result I don't want so I think I have to move to Vecna.

##vote Vecna

Happy to move back to Chaqa if his wagon motors.

Damo hops of chaqa two times to push vecna and then to push me. But this move makes it obvious scum wanted vecna dying for inactivity and damo is trying to make things happen.

For jamie or ezio to be scum it means all three scum are voting vecna here for a moment. Is that why damo hops back off? If he wants Jamie to join a brainbomb flash wagon; that would remove a voter from vecna. So does this mean damo knows Jamie isnt moving because he is buddies with Jamie? I would say yes but its definetely not conclusive

Demon comes out as the worst in the D1 VCA to me.

His vote on damo on D1 had no engagement from the players and was a naked vote with no actual reasoning at the time.

[brainbomb]

Anyone want to speedwagon Brainbomb and if he flips scum, flip HB tomorrow?

Jamie votes Hamilton making it 3-3-3 and says maybe we should flip bb instead and if he flips scum we flip HB tomorrow.

damo votes bb

its still 3-3-3.

[brainbomb]

##Vote damo

Aaro votes ghug
Rhk votes damo

3-3-3
apologies before this jamie tied it 3-3 and ghug was a 2, vecna was a 2. hamilton a 3 and chaqa a 3.

At this stage chaqa is tied with a confirmed mafia and the moves being made by damo are clearly to save hamilton. Damo is not bussing chaqa in this situation.