MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[Bonatogether]

I mean I figured it out but it's pretty fucking ripe coming from you. You can't even explain why you scumread people, not sure why you're so down my throat about this.

I don't know what my not explaining my reads has to do with it. I'm just tired of you talking about how terrible you are.

Maybe you're saying you're terrible because I'm terrible? I buy that.

Hmmmm. If I didn’t feel pretty strongly that kgray is town, I might think this is scumtheatre.

The whole conversation does look funny

[brainbomb]

food seems a little desperate today

[foodcoats]

Hi
First RIP vecna.

Second... I did believe (and still do) that I was heading for the death-room when I announced my claim. I cross posted (literally) vecna and kgray discussing making a switch, or i would have taken my chances.

I imagined everyone screaming cursings at me for not claiming when it became clear that I was going to be DKed. So i announced.

It obviously didn't turn out that way, but I think it would have.

BUT
I unclaimed for one purpose... hoping to give the scummies and wolfie just enough reason to doubt. 'specially the wolf.

I prefered scum to kill me than the wolf.

So... what to do now.

I do sincerely hope for another night to investigate someone.

I investigated someone, obviously, last night and came up with a result that the person is sided with town.

Which makes it not as good, but of SOME value.

I don't recommend kak's gun being used to shoot me. It's a waste. Wait till a time when there are two goodly wagons, and shoot the lead moments before EoD.

But I would not like to waste all day while people argue about which time I lied.

So... if you are going to kill me... vote and hammer. If the hammer starts getting close (tell me a safe number) I will announce my investigation, and you can at least gain that.

The danger, I suppose, is if the hammer starts, and gets within room of scum jumping on, you won't get my result. But you WILL get whoever jumps.

OR... we can ask everyone if they AGREE with the hammer, I will announce when enough people indicate they WILL hammer.

Got a better plan?

I DID expect to be killed last night. I hoped the wolf would try and would guess wrong. But I don't receive notice of a failed wolf attempt.

I was not saved, or blocked, or anything.

I totally missed this.

What’s the rationale of not revealing the ostensible town clear?

[ghug]

You endorsed shooting you?

This reminds me of when I thought bozo was incapable of joking and turned a joke he made into a scumread (I was scum).

Pretty sure kgray is making a funny which one hopes is NAI.

It wasn't a joke... And I obviously do not endorse shooting me. I don't understand how this is even happening.

So I fucked up and thought the first post in the chain was from you and not worcej. This made me think that you were endorsing yourself as a gun target, which I read as more "woe is me" crap.

In sum, this is all kgray's fault, since she's me but bad (by her own admission).

[foodcoats]

food seems a little desperate today

[worcej]

What even is that supposed to mean?

You're pretending that you're not good cause you messed up....a small fraction of the time.

He's saying I'm playing up being bad at this game because I said I'd support shooting worcej. I'm not bringing up that I messed up anymore.

To be clear, I'm saying you're playing up being bad in general. I know this comment was aimed at ghug, I'm just piggy-backing it.

[kgray]

My thoughts as well.

Being good doesn't mean you're infallible and she keeps trying to reinforce her failures to offset the good compliment.

How does me bringing up my failures have anything at all to do with this??

I've seen you brush off the 'kgray is a good player' comment too many times to count at this point by saying you're actually bad. And this isn't exclusive to just this game.

You keep trying to stop this perception that you're a good player - why is that?

You know what, I'm not having this fucking conversation anymore. I've literally lost the game for town every time I've been in mylo/kylo so saying I'm not good at this isn't fake. I'm not. I think I'm valuable because I notice stuff but I hate having to make the final decisions and it has literally never gone well.

And this still has nothing to do with what ghug questioned, which is that I support you, worcej, being shot. Literally nothing at all. So we're done with this.

[brainbomb]

food seems a little desperate today

does it feel good that you eliminated scum

[kgray]

I don't know what my not explaining my reads has to do with it. I'm just tired of you talking about how terrible you are.

Maybe you're saying you're terrible because I'm terrible? I buy that.

wtf I didn't say that in what you responded to!!

Also how fucking dare I have some humility and self-reflection. I know that's not something this community is very familiar with though.

as a mod of the server I am disappointed to see you think were just a bunch of arrogant shitheads.

I thought you just liked the game and enjoyed the people here

Both are true, brain. I think you're all a bunch of arrogant shitheads, but I still like the game and enjoy the people.

[worcej]

How does me bringing up my failures have anything at all to do with this??

You endorsed shooting you?

What? No. I endorsed shooting worcej...

A very wasted bullet.

[foodcoats]

Considering Darg is alive, I think we can be pretty sure he isn’t the cop.

He as much said so, though. To what end, I don't know, and I don't buy the whole "coming back in with hat in hand" approach.

Darg=scum?
Darg=irrelevant to plans of scum?
Darg=irrelevant?
Darg=probably something else I haven't considered?

Could a doctor save darg from the wolf?

[brainbomb]

wtf I didn't say that in what you responded to!!

Also how fucking dare I have some humility and self-reflection. I know that's not something this community is very familiar with though.

as a mod of the server I am disappointed to see you think were just a bunch of arrogant shitheads.

I thought you just liked the game and enjoyed the people here

Both are true, brain. I think you're all a bunch of arrogant shitheads, but I still like the game and enjoy the people.

ive been fighting for seven years to feel my opinion was valuable. and only now all these years later do I get to learn im a shithead lol


by the way macca is probably scum here

[kgray]

This reminds me of when I thought bozo was incapable of joking and turned a joke he made into a scumread (I was scum).

Pretty sure kgray is making a funny which one hopes is NAI.

It wasn't a joke... And I obviously do not endorse shooting me. I don't understand how this is even happening.

So I fucked up and thought the first post in the chain was from you and not worcej. This made me think that you were endorsing yourself as a gun target, which I read as more "woe is me" crap.

In sum, this is all kgray's fault, since she's me but bad (by her own admission).

Nah I still think I'm better than everyone, remember?

[worcej]

I mean I figured it out but it's pretty fucking ripe coming from you. You can't even explain why you scumread people, not sure why you're so down my throat about this.

I don't know what my not explaining my reads has to do with it. I'm just tired of you talking about how terrible you are.

Maybe you're saying you're terrible because I'm terrible? I buy that.

wtf I didn't say that in what you responded to!!

Also how fucking dare I have some humility and self-reflection. I know that's not something this community is very familiar with though.

Implying you have humility and self-reflection at the same time you insult the community at large.

How big of you.

[foodcoats]

wtf I didn't say that in what you responded to!!

Also how fucking dare I have some humility and self-reflection. I know that's not something this community is very familiar with though.

as a mod of the server I am disappointed to see you think were just a bunch of arrogant shitheads.

I thought you just liked the game and enjoyed the people here

Both are true, brain. I think you're all a bunch of arrogant shitheads, but I still like the game and enjoy the people.

Mods have to be the most arrogant shitheads after all.

[kgray]

You're pretending that you're not good cause you messed up....a small fraction of the time.

He's saying I'm playing up being bad at this game because I said I'd support shooting worcej. I'm not bringing up that I messed up anymore.

To be clear, I'm saying you're playing up being bad in general. I know this comment was aimed at ghug, I'm just piggy-backing it.

So basically you knew what the misunderstanding was and chose to fan the flames anyway just to start shit? Cool.

[ghug]

How does me bringing up my failures have anything at all to do with this??

I've seen you brush off the 'kgray is a good player' comment too many times to count at this point by saying you're actually bad. And this isn't exclusive to just this game.

You keep trying to stop this perception that you're a good player - why is that?

You know what, I'm not having this fucking conversation anymore. I've literally lost the game for town every time I've been in mylo/kylo so saying I'm not good at this isn't fake. I'm not. I think I'm valuable because I notice stuff but I hate having to make the final decisions and it has literally never gone well.

And this still has nothing to do with what ghug questioned, which is that I support you, worcej, being shot. Literally nothing at all. So we're done with this.

For what it's worth, "right in KILO" isn't a good metric, or at least not the only metric of success as a mafia player, and I'd guess that the average is much less than 50/50 for a few reasons:
-reaching KILO with more than scum left gives you a 1/2^n chance of winning
-reaching KILO at all means scum have played well
-your being in KILO at all is going to be biased towards games where you're worse, since mafia will generally leave players with bad reads alive

You're a good player. Don't get too in your head.

[kgray]

as a mod of the server I am disappointed to see you think were just a bunch of arrogant shitheads.

I thought you just liked the game and enjoyed the people here

Both are true, brain. I think you're all a bunch of arrogant shitheads, but I still like the game and enjoy the people.

ive been fighting for seven years to feel my opinion was valuable. and only now all these years later do I get to learn im a shithead lol


by the way macca is probably scum here

lol sorry, I'm heated. But I do think you're pretty great, and you always made me feel welcome when I was new. Plus you fearkilled me last game and tbh that was a huge compliment

Why Macca?

[kgray]

as a mod of the server I am disappointed to see you think were just a bunch of arrogant shitheads.

I thought you just liked the game and enjoyed the people here

Both are true, brain. I think you're all a bunch of arrogant shitheads, but I still like the game and enjoy the people.

Mods have to be the most arrogant shitheads after all.

Well, after the admins, yeah.

[brainbomb]

macca just feels really uninvolved more than usual