M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

[damo666]

I think it's just NAI sarcasm. If anything you look way scummier for posing the question than Durga did for making the statement which was clearly tongue in cheek.

This.

Bunny, it's hilarious you try to jump on this, because iirc you jumped on ghug for the same thing

Bunny hops on anything

[bozotheclown]

Only looked at the last few hours of the day.

Why?

a) didn't scroll up so hadn't realised
b) votes at EOD are far more interesting than early votes

@bozo did you lokk at MF's entire scum voting history or just his vote at EOD?

I pointed out who MF had voted for here:

I reviewed MF's scum games, and it seems he typically avoids voting for his scum teammates. I could not find any case where he voted for a scum teammate D1. On D1 here he voted for Tom, summit, damo, Macca, and yavuzovic.

The Tom vote was a joke, so I would not consider that bussing if they are partners. Also, MF could have done something atypical for him in voting for scum teammates D1. However, I think this evidence points to summit, damo, Macca, and yavuzovic being town.

[goldfinger0303]

Shit, I just scum slipped. Sorry team.

Does Durga usually joke about this as scum?

Ghug I know will do stuff like this as town. Maybe worcej has too when heated.
Bo I know has outwardly claimed scum as scum and gotten away with it. I have done it as well. I think maybe HR too?
I just don't have enough history with Durga to know which camp she falls in.

You just played a game with me where I was scum. Why do you feel the need to ask others this question?

One game is not a statistically significant sample size. And it was a quick minigame at that.

[rdrivera2005]

rdrivera is scum

Why?

GM probably rolled a dice, I don't know how he got that role.
I bet for 10 x +1s (of course out of this game) that he is going to roll mafia.

It's me or this makes no sense at all.

Have you considered I was the one dismissing the wagon Moscow was trying to get going on you?

Anyway, Yav is one of my strongest townreads still.

[damo666]

@Bozo was your MF scumbus analysis all votes or just endvotes?

[Vecna]

Catch up Vecna old bean.

Yeah, i did. also,

[damo666]

@Bozo was your MF scumbus analysis all votes or just endvotes?

ignore xpost

[rdrivera2005]

This is ridiculous. If you're going to accept bozo's theory that Moscow has never bussed and therefore didn't bus in this game, and then assign townpoints to people Moscow voted for, why in the world wouldn't you take 2 extra seconds to scroll up on the bot to actually see who he voted for?

Shall we wait and see the data Bozo included in his analysis.

Your reaction is way ott. Why didn't you ask me why I didn't give myself townpoints?

And as an aside summit has got enough townpoints already and Tom is either non-town or having a very off game.

Because giving yourself townpoints would be fairly pointless.

I don't feel like my reaction was over the top. I think it's an extremely valid question, no matter what bozo says about Moscow's tendencies to bus his teammates depending on the particular point in the game.

And I don't think it's relevant that summit already has townpoints or that Tom doesn't. If you're giving Macca and yavuzovic townpoints just because Moscow voted for them, then you should also give summit and Tom townpoints because Moscow voted for them too.

I have to disagree. It's completely different to vote a partner as a joke on start of D1 and cast a deciding buss vote at EOD.
Anyway, I don't give much town credit for any of Moscow votes other then Yav.

[damo666]

Why?

GM probably rolled a dice, I don't know how he got that role.
I bet for 10 x +1s (of course out of this game) that he is going to roll mafia.

It's me or this makes no sense at all.

Have you considered I was the one dismissing the wagon Moscow was trying to get going on you?

Anyway, Yav is one of my strongest townreads still.

You're right, it makes no sense. I also agree with your read of Yav. I disagree with his read of you.

[Durga]

Does Durga usually joke about this as scum?

Ghug I know will do stuff like this as town. Maybe worcej has too when heated.
Bo I know has outwardly claimed scum as scum and gotten away with it. I have done it as well. I think maybe HR too?
I just don't have enough history with Durga to know which camp she falls in.

You just played a game with me where I was scum. Why do you feel the need to ask others this question?

One game is not a statistically significant sample size. And it was a quick minigame at that.

I've only been scum thrice on this website. One was years ago. The other was also years ago and it was me subbing in. So you've got the best experience of me as scum.

I still think it's a weird question to ask people even if the mini game was short. I produced a lot of content

[damo666]

If you look at this night's posting statistics it is fairly apparent who hasn't been spending their time in scumchat.

[rdrivera2005]

I mean players who historically have demonstrated their willingness to bus. In particular, rdrivera, Vecna, damo, kgray, and summit_fever. Fluminator says he has never been scum on this site, but I suspect he would not hesitate to bus.

Every half decent player busses when it makes sense, but your lack of analysis on why people would buss this way and get the Strongman killed is making me scumread you.

Look at Bunny analysis on Kgray and Seth to see someone tryng to solve (and I believe Kgray is town). This generic "there is known bussers" seems a way to divert the focus from people who actively defended Moscow or ignored him that is where it's most likely we find scum.

I did not say all of the scum were bussing MF. However, I was making a point that I do not think we can assume this:

Yeah, maybe. I certainly felt better about my read knowing who was already voting him!

But this is my first time killing scum as town and I pretty much made the push at the end that got him killed, so I'm excited and am going to take some credit for it

I told my gut feelings are getting better.

Getting scum D1 is great, but also having a towncore is even better. Vecna, kgray, summit, damo and Flum are all town. Yav and Flash are probably town too.

Why not? I am not saying all people on Moscow wagon are town, but I am pretty sure most of them are and it's far more productive to look elsewhere at least tomorrow.
So, instead of discussing bussers we should look who could have tried to save Moscow or who just sit on vanity wagons. Weren't you that have a theory about vanity wagons?

[Durga]

If you look at this night's posting statistics it is fairly apparent who hasn't been spending their time in scumchat.

I didn't know they were mutually exclusive destinations :p

[Durga]

I agree that we don't need to look at the Moscow wagon immediately for scum. There's no way he was bussed by everyone. Very likely for traitor to possibly be on it though.

[Vecna]

If you look at this night's posting statistics it is fairly apparent who hasn't been spending their time in scumchat.

Im fairly certain that the top posters would quite happily keep up their volume in both chats

[kgray]

I agree that we don't need to look at the Moscow wagon immediately for scum. There's no way he was bussed by everyone. Very likely for traitor to possibly be on it though.

Why do you think the traitor is more likely to be on the Moscow wagon than other scum?

[Vecna]

I agree that we don't need to look at the Moscow wagon immediately for scum. There's no way he was bussed by everyone. Very likely for traitor to possibly be on it though.

The traitor knows his teammates

[Vecna]

Durga trying to town-slip eh

[Durga]

I agree that we don't need to look at the Moscow wagon immediately for scum. There's no way he was bussed by everyone. Very likely for traitor to possibly be on it though.

The traitor knows his teammates

LOL, nevermind then...

[goldfinger0303]

You just played a game with me where I was scum. Why do you feel the need to ask others this question?

One game is not a statistically significant sample size. And it was a quick minigame at that.

I've only been scum thrice on this website. One was years ago. The other was also years ago and it was me subbing in. So you've got the best experience of me as scum.

I still think it's a weird question to ask people even if the mini game was short. I produced a lot of content

It's not necessarily just your scum play. Your town play as well. I noted remembering ghug do it as town.

And it's really not that weird to ask a question about something you find odd. My history with you is just that 1 game, I believe. Almost everyone here has more. Just trying to find if anyone had an idea of your meta. If nobody answers, then chalk it up as NAI.