Mafia 57 Matrix

[rdrivera2005]

My god I don't know why it took me so long to realize, but Nanooks "naked" votes are finance references. When you cover your position, you hedge it. He's saying it's an un-hedged vote.

Jesus I'm embarrassed it took me that long.

As for Hamilton's bizarre theory of a Bunny-emc-gold scumteam, please look at the actual context of the vote wagons and you'll see how much of a non-starter that is. And for TheFlyingBoat? Yeah he was a scumread of mine. I had a theory on scum lurking in lone wagons - which was true in most of my past games. Turns out it wasn't this time, that's on me.

This is scum Gold. Simple and clear.

[rdrivera2005]

@bo you asked me re rdr and HR

I think there could very well be theatre at play and they both are scum. I doubt they are both town.

Jamie's absence unusual. Maybe he has an excuse but we should monitor.

Why the only (almost) town clear need to be Damo?

So, do us a favour. Shoot one of us tonight. If it's me, lynch HR tomorrow when I flip town. Or shoot emc and make me and HR the wagons tomorrow.

[BismarckAlive]

I don't really feel as if the Nanook wagon ever had as much traction as being the lead wagon for half the day would make it seem. Does the "coincidence" I called out not resonate? His play is consistent with someone that is in constant conversation with teammates strategizing on how to lay low. It's kind of annoying that he got basically zero attention at the end of the day just because he stopped talking.

I agree. I think he was told to stop talking too.

I appreciate your agreement. Why didn't you vote for him?

I expressed my strong hunch that EMC is the start and end of both D1 and D3 EoDs, and that his scum team was well prepared (daychat being crucial) to begin seeding the ground for successful counterwagons say 30 or 40 mins before EoD. I therefore placed greater importance on flipping EMC by making the 5th vote on EMC with 5 mins to go. I don't know how useful that daychat is at that late stage, but what I do remember is a couple of people driving the TFB wagon...something also tells me that this well organised scum team is almost certainly around in those late stages of days. Now, if they have taken some risks in those crucial last 2-3mins both days, EMC must be important, so I am guessing he is Agent Smith.

[BismarckAlive]

And if rivera is town, it sure seems like ghug could be scum testing the waters to see how plausible it is to line rdrivera up as a wagon. It could be a wagon to get some momentum, so it would be a logical choice for scum to pick

Oh well. I guess that means I am town!cleared now, an unlikely wagon going forward, and therefore tonight's nightkill, hey Tom?

[Tom Bombadil]

And if rivera is town, it sure seems like ghug could be scum testing the waters to see how plausible it is to line rdrivera up as a wagon. It could be a wagon to get some momentum, so it would be a logical choice for scum to pick

Oh well. I guess that means I am town!cleared now, an unlikely wagon going forward, and therefore tonight's nightkill, hey Tom?

Wut

[BunnyGo]

And if rivera is town, it sure seems like ghug could be scum testing the waters to see how plausible it is to line rdrivera up as a wagon. It could be a wagon to get some momentum, so it would be a logical choice for scum to pick

Oh well. I guess that means I am town!cleared now, an unlikely wagon going forward, and therefore tonight's nightkill, hey Tom?

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[Hamilton Brian]

So that team has done a fantastic job of sowing discord and confusion. Can we settle on JUST one of the three I mentioned and go that route for the vote? Those of us remaining choose just one to ISO and share those ideas to settle on just one wagon for Day 4? I'll take goldfinger.

[BunnyGo]

So that team has done a fantastic job of sowing discord and confusion. Can we settle on JUST one of the three I mentioned and go that route for the vote? Those of us remaining choose just one to ISO and share those ideas to settle on just one wagon for Day 4? I'll take goldfinger.

You’re going to iso one person?

Congratulations on doing the bare minimum to appear like you’re hunting.

[BunnyGo]

So that team has done a fantastic job of sowing discord and confusion. Can we settle on JUST one of the three I mentioned and go that route for the vote? Those of us remaining choose just one to ISO and share those ideas to settle on just one wagon for Day 4? I'll take goldfinger.

The last time I was scum I ISOd at least 3 people a day.

[BunnyGo]

And if rivera is town, it sure seems like ghug could be scum testing the waters to see how plausible it is to line rdrivera up as a wagon. It could be a wagon to get some momentum, so it would be a logical choice for scum to pick

Oh well. I guess that means I am town!cleared now, an unlikely wagon going forward, and therefore tonight's nightkill, hey Tom?

Wut

I’ve never considered being soooooo oblivious as a scum strategy before. Is it possible?

[BunnyGo]

Hey jimbo! Thoughts?

[Jamiet99uk]

Sorry for my relative lack of involvement. I've been quite unwell since Sunday in RL (not Covid).

I see we lynched a townie yet again. Weird to see that so many of you piled onto him at the end though. My hunch just looking at the bot is that EMC was saved, again.

The fact that a HR wagon appeared and then disappeared in the run up to EoD is also interesting.

HR and EMC could be scum together.

It appears there is quite a bit to study in that EoD. I will do my best to make some observations before EoD.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok I've started to read up the pages approaching EoD.

It's funny how HR goes from throwing shade at EMC here:

You know what ##vote Hellenic Riot, his interrogations look so fake that I just can't not think he is scum tryng to look hunting.

What's fake about pointing out emc ignoring 60% of the other wagons in his first explanation? Are you suggesting that the first answer was actually a good answer? What interrogating are you even doing given how far under the radar you've been soaring?

To coming to EMC's defence here, just two pages later:

I'd switch to Boat to save Riot. Think I'm even on him and Bismarck. Does anyone have strong reasons why emc is town?

Does anyone actually have a strong reason why emc is scum? I've not understood his wagon today any more than I understood it d1 - half of it seems fuelled at irritation at his inactivity and nobody has ever come up with a straight answer on what actions emc has done that are actually scummy

[dargorygel]

Sorry for my relative lack of involvement. I've been quite unwell since Sunday in RL (not Covid).

I see we lynched a townie yet again. Weird to see that so many of you piled onto him at the end though. My hunch just looking at the bot is that EMC was saved, again.

The fact that a HR wagon appeared and then disappeared in the run up to EoD is also interesting.

HR and EMC could be scum together.

It appears there is quite a bit to study in that EoD. I will do my best to make some observations before EoD.

Reminder... We aren't lynching anymore. Thanks

[Jamiet99uk]

GOD DAMMIT
Sorry!

[Jamiet99uk]

That's like the fourth time I've had to be warned as well. I am really having trouble focussing; I've been asleep for like 36 of the last 48 hours. I am sorry.

[Hellenic Riot]

Ok I've started to read up the pages approaching EoD.

It's funny how HR goes from throwing shade at EMC here:

You know what ##vote Hellenic Riot, his interrogations look so fake that I just can't not think he is scum tryng to look hunting.

What's fake about pointing out emc ignoring 60% of the other wagons in his first explanation? Are you suggesting that the first answer was actually a good answer? What interrogating are you even doing given how far under the radar you've been soaring?

To coming to EMC's defence here, just two pages later:

I'd switch to Boat to save Riot. Think I'm even on him and Bismarck. Does anyone have strong reasons why emc is town?

Does anyone actually have a strong reason why emc is scum? I've not understood his wagon today any more than I understood it d1 - half of it seems fuelled at irritation at his inactivity and nobody has ever come up with a straight answer on what actions emc has done that are actually scummy

I was not throwing shade at emc - I wanted him to expand on his answer because his first one was not good enough. I did not scumread him, and have never scumread him. Had he failed to expand on said answer, sure, maybe I'd look at him more closely, but he did not fail and I still don't understand why half this game is so sure that he's scum when nobody has ever come up with any compelling case against him.

[BunnyGo]

That's like the fourth time I've had to be warned as well. I am really having trouble focussing; I've been asleep for like 36 of the last 48 hours. I am sorry.

Ugh. Hope you recover quickly.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok I've started to read up the pages approaching EoD.

It's funny how HR goes from throwing shade at EMC here:

What's fake about pointing out emc ignoring 60% of the other wagons in his first explanation? Are you suggesting that the first answer was actually a good answer? What interrogating are you even doing given how far under the radar you've been soaring?

To coming to EMC's defence here, just two pages later:

Does anyone actually have a strong reason why emc is scum? I've not understood his wagon today any more than I understood it d1 - half of it seems fuelled at irritation at his inactivity and nobody has ever come up with a straight answer on what actions emc has done that are actually scummy

I was not throwing shade at emc - I wanted him to expand on his answer because his first one was not good enough. I did not scumread him, and have never scumread him. Had he failed to expand on said answer, sure, maybe I'd look at him more closely, but he did not fail and I still don't understand why half this game is so sure that he's scum when nobody has ever come up with any compelling case against him.

Give me reasons to townread him?

Coasting without doing anything, as scum, has become far, far too easy on this site, to the point where if in doubt, it's probably the optimum scum strategy.

[therul]

I think Hamilton is incorrect with his Gold/Bunny/EMC line.
I think all 3 are town.
Bismark I am still thinking is Bad.
I am not going to try to find out why. I did once, and spent 90 min on it. Not doing it again.