Mafia 57 Matrix

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE EMC

ELIMINATE THIS TRASH TODAY, THANKS.

As much as I agree. I think we finally need a scum flip. If EMC shows up, that’s something.

Do you think he’s scum? If so, that’s something else.

Yes. I am willing to wager that he is scum. This is scum EMC. He absolutely does not care that town is losing. He is having fun coasting and taunting us.

[Jamiet99uk]

Could everyone who was voting HR when he was a lead wagon yesterday please explain:

a) Why did you move off HR?
b) Do you still scumread him?

Those people are:

- BunnyGo
- EMC
- Nanook
- Rdrivera2005

(Damo was also on this wagon but has died)

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE Nanook

Why....?

Because he's scum

Were you roleblocked, Ghug?

[Jamiet99uk]

I really hope that Bismark, Hamilton, and therul aren't scum because if they are, the fuck is this derpclearing they're all trying to do lol, and all the pity on me for falling for it.

Wow.

[rdrivera2005]

Could everyone who was voting HR when he was a lead wagon yesterday please explain:

a) Why did you move off HR?
b) Do you still scumread him?

Those people are:

- BunnyGo
- EMC
- Nanook
- Rdrivera2005

(Damo was also on this wagon but has died)

a)I didn't move
b) Yes

[Jamiet99uk]

Could everyone who was voting HR when he was a lead wagon yesterday please explain:

a) Why did you move off HR?
b) Do you still scumread him?

Those people are:

- BunnyGo
- EMC
- Nanook
- Rdrivera2005

(Damo was also on this wagon but has died)

a)I didn't move
b) Yes

Actually you are right. You and Nanook stayed on. Bunny, EMC, and Damo jumped off.

Nanook do you still scumread HR?

Bunny and EMC, both questions please?

[BunnyGo]

Could everyone who was voting HR when he was a lead wagon yesterday please explain:

a) Why did you move off HR?
b) Do you still scumread him?

Those people are:

- BunnyGo
- EMC
- Nanook
- Rdrivera2005

(Damo was also on this wagon but has died)

a)I didn't move
b) Yes

Actually you are right. You and Nanook stayed on. Bunny, EMC, and Damo jumped off.

Nanook do you still scumread HR?

Bunny and EMC, both questions please?

1) HR wasn't my strongest read either way (I was sheeping damo0. I was trying for two other wagons, and TFB became an option.
2) The fact TFB became an option because of some characters (Fox, EMC) that has me wondering. I don't have a strong read on HR either way.

[BunnyGo]

I could see EMC - HR as saving each other D1 and D3.

[BismarckAlive]

I think Hamilton is incorrect with his Gold/Bunny/EMC line.
I think all 3 are town.
Bismark I am still thinking is Bad.
I am not going to try to find out why. I did once, and spent 90 min on it. Not doing it again.

You think he is "bad" for no reason, and you aren't bothered about why.

WONDERRFUL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Strong town vibes from therul here.

Maybe because you are scum with him, ghug?

[BismarckAlive]

I think Hamilton is incorrect with his Gold/Bunny/EMC line.
I think all 3 are town.
Bismark I am still thinking is Bad.
I am not going to try to find out why. I did once, and spent 90 min on it. Not doing it again.

Yes, that is correct! You spent 90mins, came up empty, and have given up. Thanks for your town!clear, therul. But, wait! I am Bad after you found nothing in 90mins? Maybe you are so confused yourself you want to confuse everybody else as well. Come back when your head is clear.

[Jamiet99uk]

I was not throwing shade at emc - I wanted him to expand on his answer because his first one was not good enough. I did not scumread him, and have never scumread him. Had he failed to expand on said answer, sure, maybe I'd look at him more closely, but he did not fail and I still don't understand why half this game is so sure that he's scum when nobody has ever come up with any compelling case against him.

Give me reasons to townread him?

Coasting without doing anything, as scum, has become far, far too easy on this site, to the point where if in doubt, it's probably the optimum scum strategy.

I asked HR this question on Page 116.

HR posted after page 116, but did not answer this question.

HR repeatedly defends EMC but won't provide any reason for townreading him either.

[BismarckAlive]

Ok, Learned to search on this forum today, yea me.
First, I am really not used to the forum format, please forgive me if I mistake something.
I know what it was that bugged me about Bismark.

• It was his Lurking. He had been called out several times for it. And I think I read that he had been more active in other games (I may be wrong)

• His explanation of how he knew how many Players/scum there would be.
  As if he knew it from the begining, and did not have to go back to read the intro again like I did 3 times.

  
  
  Hi BunnyGo,
  
  It was clear in the signup thread, that Flum had pre-determined the splits according to how many players there were. From memory of that thread, if there were 17 players (the minimum I presume) then there were to be 3 scum and 1 3P, rising to 5 scum and 1 3P if there were 23 players (the maximum I also presume). So, since the Matrix materialised with 23 players, I simply remembered that thread. I also noticed that the numbers hadn't been updated by Flum in his flavour post, but others had already commented on that by the time I joined the thread on page 8.

• His statement of us wanting to be believe that worcej was faking being RB.
  I did not understand that even a VT is told that they are being RB'd and I bit into that apple for a bit. Which is on me. That was sorted out, but still left a bitter taste in my mouth.
  I just had the quote in front of me, but I have lost it. I will go back to find it when I can.

Others have agreed these are piss-weak. Find those, and bury this little tunnel of yours that leads to me. Cheers!

[Jamiet99uk]

Look at Foxcastle flopping his vote around near EoD3 in a desperate attempt to ensure HR and EMC were not lynched.

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... =Foxcastle

Ghug, I will potentially vote Foxcastle with you today.

Today I would lynch in the pool of:

- EMC
- Foxcastle
- Nanook
- Hellenic Riot
- Therul

Townreads on Ghug and Bo_Sox. Townleans on Bismarck and BunnyGoGo, and maybe Hamilton.

Therul and Temasek need to participate more, particularly Therul because at least Temasek is a sub.

[BunnyGo]

I think Hamilton is incorrect with his Gold/Bunny/EMC line.
I think all 3 are town.
Bismark I am still thinking is Bad.
I am not going to try to find out why. I did once, and spent 90 min on it. Not doing it again.

Yes, that is correct! You spent 90mins, came up empty, and have given up. Thanks for your town!clear, therul. But, wait! I am Bad after you found nothing in 90mins? Maybe you are so confused yourself you want to confuse everybody else as well. Come back when your head is clear.

Hello. Are you hunting? Or just trolling? Do you reread the bot? Question your thoughts? Have you a scum team theory?

[Jamiet99uk]

Bismarck: Defending yourself is fine, but outside of that, who do you scumread? Can you help us find scum that are not pushing you?

[BismarckAlive]

##vote e.m.c^42

Let's see the frantic dance begin again around 30-40mins before EoD when this wagon is at about 5 hungry killers. It has been quite entertaining on D1 and D3.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think Hamilton is incorrect with his Gold/Bunny/EMC line.
I think all 3 are town.
Bismark I am still thinking is Bad.
I am not going to try to find out why. I did once, and spent 90 min on it. Not doing it again.

Yes, that is correct! You spent 90mins, came up empty, and have given up. Thanks for your town!clear, therul. But, wait! I am Bad after you found nothing in 90mins? Maybe you are so confused yourself you want to confuse everybody else as well. Come back when your head is clear.

Hello. Are you hunting? Or just trolling? Do you reread the bot? Question your thoughts? Have you a scum team theory?

If you keep doing this, Bunny, you are giving him the option to just keep defending himself.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote e.m.c^42

Let's see the frantic dance begin again around 30-40mins before EoD when this wagon is at about 5 hungry killers. It has been quite entertaining on D1 and D3.

I like this vote, and this reasoning.

[BismarckAlive]

Bismarck: Defending yourself is fine, but outside of that, who do you scumread? Can you help us find scum that are not pushing you?

I already named 4 of my top scumteam (no particular order):

BunnyGo
Hellenic Riot
e.m.c^42
Tom Bombadil

Common to all four is my perception that they have collectively contributed not much to actual scum hunting with evidence, plus the fact that all 4 have been actively moving votes in the last 30mins of each D1 and D4, and each time around that time EMC was a leading wagon.

My 5th is a tossup between Fox, Nanook and therul at this point in time, though given how well organised I think these guys have been, I wouldn't be surprised if they have one deeply buried as a Townie presently.

[BunnyGo]

Yes, that is correct! You spent 90mins, came up empty, and have given up. Thanks for your town!clear, therul. But, wait! I am Bad after you found nothing in 90mins? Maybe you are so confused yourself you want to confuse everybody else as well. Come back when your head is clear.

Hello. Are you hunting? Or just trolling? Do you reread the bot? Question your thoughts? Have you a scum team theory?

If you keep doing this, Bunny, you are giving him the option to just keep defending himself.

Has he defended himself?

Ah well.

Bismarck, who do you think EMCs team is? Fox? HR? Any theories how/why?