Mafia 57 Matrix

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1401 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:42 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:28 pm
Some questions that are standing out to me right now are:

1). Damo was SO quick to start the DRHK wagon, and then so many of you seemed to read something in it that made you jump aboard. Was Damo implying something valid?

yes

2). The flip of DRHK as town; my immediate lambic-system read of that is Damo made that wagon so hard, that indicts Damo. But that's got to be too simplistic; does that then focus attention to the other band wagoners?

not necessarily any of the above. It doesn’t necessarily indict Damo. You should always look at how people respond.

3). Some of you are thinking all of the wagons from Day 1 were town. Why?

i have the benefit of knowing who I am. I may be wrong about EMC. The other main wagons have been revealed.

I'm asking because I genuinely want to learn and improve. This is bigger than the Dell logic puzzles.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1402 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:42 pm

Sorry. That color scheme was a terrible choice. Doing this on phone.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1403 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:46 pm

Is the ability to oracle now useless since the identified Chosen One is gone?

Someone got red-pilled night 1, but that player may have been an agent. That player would now know Which are Morpheus and Trinity?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1404 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:05 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:46 pm
Is the ability to oracle now useless since the identified Chosen One is gone?

Someone got red-pilled night 1, but that player may have been an agent. That player would now know Which are Morpheus and Trinity?
Think back on the discussions from D1 and reconsider the statement.

Also, read the setup closely regarding QTs.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1405 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:05 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:46 pm
Is the ability to oracle now useless since the identified Chosen One is gone?

Correct.

Someone got red-pilled night 1, but that player may have been an agent. That player would now know Which are Morpheus and Trinity?

Partial credit. There is another implied possibility based on how Damo played. There are other possibilities further depending on how the virus is relating to NEB, and further still if Damo is scum. Don't stop at the first obvious answer. (I'll grant your obvious answer is most likely)

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1406 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:08 pm

@Hamilton Did you ask all these questions in the QT and get advised to ask them here instead?

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#1407 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:08 pm

Man, this night is dragging.

I want it to be day so I can vote emc already.

Is it me or does HB's questions seem genuine like a townie wanting to improve their game.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1408 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:10 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:08 pm
Man, this night is dragging.

I want it to be day so I can vote emc already.

Is it me or does HB's questions seem genuine like a townie wanting to improve their game.
Mostly yes. My question is the other option.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1409 Post by goldfinger0303 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:10 pm

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Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:08 pm
@Hamilton Did you ask all these questions in the QT and get advised to ask them here instead?
Bunny do you really think that's a strategy scum would suggest their new member do?

They sniped our JOAT N1. I'm leaning towards thinking this is a "good" scumteam. I don't think they'd dangle one of their own infront of everyone so visibly.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1410 Post by ghug » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:20 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:10 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:08 pm
@Hamilton Did you ask all these questions in the QT and get advised to ask them here instead?
Bunny do you really think that's a strategy scum would suggest their new member do?

They sniped our JOAT N1. I'm leaning towards thinking this is a "good" scumteam. I don't think they'd dangle one of their own infront of everyone so visibly.
He does seem like a pretty good candidate for it. Not saying that's the most likely, but it's certainly not out of the question.

Having been on "good" scumteams, I think nailing bozo was probably more likely than not to bed blind luck.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1411 Post by ghug » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:24 pm

Man, I'm really going full Freud on bozo.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1412 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:25 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:10 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:08 pm
@Hamilton Did you ask all these questions in the QT and get advised to ask them here instead?
Bunny do you really think that's a strategy scum would suggest their new member do?

They sniped our JOAT N1. I'm leaning towards thinking this is a "good" scumteam. I don't think they'd dangle one of their own infront of everyone so visibly.
Yes. This is exactly something I think a good scum team with a new player would suggest. If all of a sudden he knew these things, it'd look very very bad.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1413 Post by bo_sox48 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:27 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:28 pm
Some questions that are standing out to me right now are:

1). Damo was SO quick to start the DRHK wagon, and then so many of you seemed to read something in it that made you jump aboard. Was Damo implying something valid?

2). The flip of DRHK as town; my immediate lambic-system read of that is Damo made that wagon so hard, that indicts Damo. But that's got to be too simplistic; does that then focus attention to the other band wagoners?

3). Some of you are thinking all of the wagons from Day 1 were town. Why?

I'm asking because I genuinely want to learn and improve. This is bigger than the Dell logic puzzles.
This post is making me think HB is dumb town, but we're also at the point where claiming not to know what is going on for town points is like an old joke that's been recycled so many times it's just not funny anymore.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1414 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:27 pm

ghug wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:20 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:10 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:08 pm
@Hamilton Did you ask all these questions in the QT and get advised to ask them here instead?
Bunny do you really think that's a strategy scum would suggest their new member do?

They sniped our JOAT N1. I'm leaning towards thinking this is a "good" scumteam. I don't think they'd dangle one of their own infront of everyone so visibly.
He does seem like a pretty good candidate for it. Not saying that's the most likely, but it's certainly not out of the question.

Having been on "good" scumteams, I think nailing bozo was probably more likely than not to bed blind luck.
Agreed. The game I nailed a PR as scum night 1 was a complete accident. I thought I saw a crumb, wasn't an intentional crumb. Just Dumb Bunny luck.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1415 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:27 pm

ghug wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:24 pm
Man, I'm really going full Freud on bozo.
Try Adler instead.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1416 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:50 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:08 pm
@Hamilton Did you ask all these questions in the QT and get advised to ask them here instead?
I don’t have access to a QT thread.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1417 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:09 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:50 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:08 pm
@Hamilton Did you ask all these questions in the QT and get advised to ask them here instead?
I don’t have access to a QT thread.
Don't let me stop you asking questions. More engagement is good. I was just being snarky.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1418 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:14 pm

Although given my limited meta that I have for these mafia games, drawing that conclusion from my very first game, which was re-started, wouldn't be a bad stretch. I was in the mafia QT for many hours before it was discovered that jamie had been sent the wrong PM. Once they got in to the thread, you can bet I was asking questions to generate some advice.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1419 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:17 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:09 pm

Don't let me stop you asking questions. More engagement is good. I was just being snarky.
I'm not going to stop; I am just trying to process the bits of material I was just given. I'll try to be back soon with some conclusions, more questions, and prepare for some more verbal keisaku.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#1420 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:19 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:17 pm
verbal keisaku.
I don't know this word. According to wikipedia it's a short stick you intend to be hit with to help you meditate?

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