Mafia 57 Matrix

[Fluminator]

##GM Note

Chaqa has replaced Vecna

Unfortunately Macca573 will not have access to internet for a week so he had to replace out too.

Temasek22 has replaced Macca573

[Chaqa]

*SQUAWK*

Haven’t read yet. Will attempt soon

[bozotheclown]

@Jamie sorry I got it wrong. Having reread you were clearly warning people not to claim VT.

My mistake (which is NAI in mpov but individuals can think what they like).

Having reread I now am wondering about rdr whose post I shouldn't have commented on so readily.

##vote rdr

Care to explain why?

Your reference to the Chosen has nothing to do with Jamiet and you are blatantly lying.

##vote Damo

I am not sure I buy damo's explanation either.

##VOTE damo

[damo666]

@Jamie sorry I got it wrong. Having reread you were clearly warning people not to claim VT.

My mistake (which is NAI in mpov but individuals can think what they like).

Having reread I now am wondering about rdr whose post I shouldn't have commented on so readily.

##vote rdr

Care to explain why?

Your reference to the Chosen has nothing to do with Jamiet and you are blatantly lying.

##vote Damo

Yes it does and no I'm not.

I thought Jamie was admonishing ghug for claiming Chosen One (he wasn't but that is by the by).

Why did you ask what Jamie meant?

[BunnyGo]

##GM Note

Chaqa has replaced Vecna

Unfortunately Macca573 will not have access to internet for a week so he had to replace out too.

Temasek22 has replaced Macca573

Welcome Temasek and Chaqa. Best of luck Macca, I hope things worked out OK.

[damo666]

@Jamie sorry I got it wrong. Having reread you were clearly warning people not to claim VT.

My mistake (which is NAI in mpov but individuals can think what they like).

Having reread I now am wondering about rdr whose post I shouldn't have commented on so readily.

##vote rdr

Care to explain why?

Your reference to the Chosen has nothing to do with Jamiet and you are blatantly lying.

##vote Damo

I am not sure I buy damo's explanation either.

##VOTE damo

See my reply to rdr

[Chaqa]

As a preliminary vote and so as to not be like EMC, I'll ##Vote ghug

This is mostly because it's been years since I've gotten to do so.

[Foxcastle]

Worcej has been missing for more than a day and a half. I would put a pressure vote on him, but I think it's more likely that there's something besides lurking going on there... Nanook and Flash have also dropped off.

##VOTE NANOOK

[Foxcastle]

Hey Therul, why did you vote for Jamiet, vote for BunnyGo (on the basis that his vote for EMC was 'looking for an easy target') and then explicitly sheep both of them onto EMC?

I think BunnyGo and Jamiet's votes on EMC are NAI, even though they're anti-town. If they were scum, it'd be an easy place to park for the Day 1. Since Therul is new, I was kinda assuming that his vote there was more likely to make him town, but I find the inconsistency weird.

[Chaqa]

I'm gonna be honest, there's little chance I read through 30 pages of this. I'll try to skim it, but anyone giving a TL;DR would be appreciated.

[therul]

Look the PMs and try to get what Ghug meant with most important role....

Vanilla Townie reads "...most important role".

Guys, it's really really obvious what Ghug means. He means "I'm Ghug. That's the most important role."

To go back to the beginning, in something I misread, but kept anyway. "Respect the Ghug"
(catching up)

[worcej]

That said, I don't mind exploiting mechanics. In one game I was able to ask and receive a question in secret to another player. Used it to set up a handshake protocol and got a "neighborhood watch" of about 3 players who were all mutually cleared.

Way to steal the credit on this one - it was me who set up the protocol and told you what to say to point me at you in order for me to give you a gun to verify my identity.

[worcej]

Also, somewhat shocked at the lack of votes aimed at me for heavy lurking...

[Foxcastle]

Also, somewhat shocked at the lack of votes aimed at me for heavy lurking...

I was about to, but it seemed more like something might be wrong. Glad you're back.

[worcej]

Bunny is incredibly earnest, although prone to tangents and occasionally gets stuck on things. He has a decent scum game and flew pretty much under the radar in a recent game where he won as scum. Not one I think of as being high risk for NK or targeting by other powers (town or scum).

I agree with this analysis.

[worcej]

Also, somewhat shocked at the lack of votes aimed at me for heavy lurking...

I was about to, but it seemed more like something might be wrong. Glad you're back.

Eh... I'd like to say I had a bunch of problems, but really I just didn't make time.

Now I have 24 pages to read, but I'll try to limit my response spaming to things that I think are really worth mentioning.

[BismarckAlive]

@Jamie sorry I got it wrong. Having reread you were clearly warning people not to claim VT.

My mistake (which is NAI in mpov but individuals can think what they like).

Having reread I now am wondering about rdr whose post I shouldn't have commented on so readily.

##vote rdr

Care to explain why?

Your reference to the Chosen has nothing to do with Jamiet and you are blatantly lying.

##vote Damo

I am not sure I buy damo's explanation either.

##VOTE damo

I don't buy Damo's explanation either, and there was something in the way he was taunting the 3P earlier and guiding their potential thoughts away from an early Town alliance that pinged me, especially since I think that strategy is very much pro-Town (and pro-Virus).

##Vote damo666

[worcej]

@Bunny - what do you say to the idea that the people in the Neb should deliberately red pill the 3rd party either tonight or tomorrow night. The 3rd party then acts as a town-directed NK, under threat of the anti-virus going off. Maf will have to direct all their efforts at finding the third party. Since town doesn't lose when the third party wins - and they have to be lynched to win - why not co-opt them into an infinite, unkillable vig shot?

This line of thinking, at a gut level, leads me more to think gold is scum than town.

I would expect Scum to be more concerned of the virus than town is right now.

[therul]

##vote e.m.c^42
I am following Bunny and Jamie's lead on this.
I am leaving for the night, and I doubt a lynch will happen while I am gone.
See you all in 15 hours or less.

##GM NOTE
I am not sure if this is the only example... but please refrain from using 'lynch' terminology. Thanks.

##CallGM
Understood.

[damo666]

Care to explain why?

Your reference to the Chosen has nothing to do with Jamiet and you are blatantly lying.

##vote Damo

I am not sure I buy damo's explanation either.

##VOTE damo

I don't buy Damo's explanation either, and there was something in the way he was taunting the 3P earlier and guiding their potential thoughts away from an early Town alliance that pinged me, especially since I think that strategy is very much pro-Town (and pro-Virus).

##Vote damo666

I'm not gonna bother explaining again but it's the truth.

Wrt to the 3p/town combo strategy of course it is beneficial to town I was merely pointing out that people shouldn't automatically assume 3p will play ball, takes a lot of trust on 3p's part.