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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#361 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:44 pm

summit_fever wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:44 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:41 pm
I’ve posted once regarding Rdrivera and suddenly I’m “trying to start a wagon”

Woah buddy.
Jamie does his best to increase participation rates. I'd say it's NAI.
Oh hello.

Nice of you to show up.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#362 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:46 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:42 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:26 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:19 pm


Ghug's style reminded me a little of ND, I wanted to see what he thought. I liked his answer.
If only you knew the tremendous lack of respect ghug has for ND you would realize how hilarious this is.
I honestly don't think he could have made a more offensive comparison.
I'm very sorry I offended you. None was intended.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#363 Post by ghug » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:47 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:28 pm
Jamie - why are you so concerned about rdrivera not posting yet? He has never been a super prolific poster, and this is normal for him. He always eventually participates in a meaningful, albeit less prolific, way, so I'm not understanding this pressure of him. Seems forced and totally unnecessary for an established player like rdr

Tom - why are you so concerned about Jamie being upset by people's typical meta? He has never been good at separating things he doesn't like from things that are scummy, and this is normal for him. He always eventually gets killed for being dumb and annoying, so I'm not understanding this pressure of him. Seems forced and totally unnecessary for an established player like Jamie

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#364 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:47 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:44 pm
Ok. Slide Jamie and damo into the town column for now.

Jamie is always defensive, but his first reaction was suspicion of me, which in my eyes shows he is looking for scum first and foremost. Could be good scum play, but I think he is more likely town.

damo is usually more try-hard and forced as scum. Last time he has some random thing where he voted people bottom up from the sign up list until they posted or some shit, and he was totally scum. Seems more natural here.
I have trouble reading Jamie. I agree that damo is probably town but for a different reason. Damo hates playing scum, and is clearly disinterested and dejected when scum; especially when he thinks the game is unwinnable.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#365 Post by Tom Bombadil » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:49 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:47 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:28 pm
Jamie - why are you so concerned about rdrivera not posting yet? He has never been a super prolific poster, and this is normal for him. He always eventually participates in a meaningful, albeit less prolific, way, so I'm not understanding this pressure of him. Seems forced and totally unnecessary for an established player like rdr

Tom - why are you so concerned about Jamie being upset by people's typical meta? He has never been good at separating things he doesn't like from things that are scummy, and this is normal for him. He always eventually gets killed for being dumb and annoying, so I'm not understanding this pressure of him. Seems forced and totally unnecessary for an established player like Jamie
I think Jamie can be pretty easily correctly townread if pressed. Its his best attribute as town.

I also thought he voted rdr which was weird, but it turns out that was flash and he had just quoted Jamie in the post.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#366 Post by goldfinger0303 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:51 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:58 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 pm
I guess the fact that nearly everyone is in a QT partly explains the slow pace so far.

But it does not explain our absentees.
"nearly everyone"? It'l like 4 scum, 1 3P and 2 PRs, right? Where's everyone else? Who posts that much in QTs?
Aren't there 5 scum? Is this a scumslip?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#367 Post by therul » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:53 pm

##Unvote
I have nothing at this time

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#368 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:53 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:51 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:58 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 pm
I guess the fact that nearly everyone is in a QT partly explains the slow pace so far.

But it does not explain our absentees.
"nearly everyone"? It'l like 4 scum, 1 3P and 2 PRs, right? Where's everyone else? Who posts that much in QTs?
Aren't there 5 scum? Is this a scumslip?
The rules say 4 agents...and why would that be a scumslip?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#369 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:54 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:51 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:58 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:43 pm
I guess the fact that nearly everyone is in a QT partly explains the slow pace so far.

But it does not explain our absentees.
"nearly everyone"? It'l like 4 scum, 1 3P and 2 PRs, right? Where's everyone else? Who posts that much in QTs?
Aren't there 5 scum? Is this a scumslip?
There are 9 scum. 4 Agents, 1 Encryptor, 1 Turncoat, 1 Security Agent, and 2 Goon.

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#370 Post by damo666 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:56 pm

ghug wrote:
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Wherefore?
Bequase

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#371 Post by ghug » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:57 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:49 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:47 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:28 pm
Jamie - why are you so concerned about rdrivera not posting yet? He has never been a super prolific poster, and this is normal for him. He always eventually participates in a meaningful, albeit less prolific, way, so I'm not understanding this pressure of him. Seems forced and totally unnecessary for an established player like rdr

Tom - why are you so concerned about Jamie being upset by people's typical meta? He has never been good at separating things he doesn't like from things that are scummy, and this is normal for him. He always eventually gets killed for being dumb and annoying, so I'm not understanding this pressure of him. Seems forced and totally unnecessary for an established player like Jamie
I think Jamie can be pretty easily correctly townread if pressed. Its his best attribute as town.

I also thought he voted rdr which was weird, but it turns out that was flash and he had just quoted Jamie in the post.
I know, I just enjoyed the parallel.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#372 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:57 pm

Is "Cypher" an Agent or not?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#373 Post by ghug » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:58 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:54 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:51 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:58 pm


"nearly everyone"? It'l like 4 scum, 1 3P and 2 PRs, right? Where's everyone else? Who posts that much in QTs?
Aren't there 5 scum? Is this a scumslip?
There are 9 scum. 4 Agents, 1 Encryptor, 1 Turncoat, 1 Security Agent, and 2 Goon.
Aren't there 10 scum? Is this a thirdpartyslip?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#374 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:58 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:53 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:51 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:58 pm


"nearly everyone"? It'l like 4 scum, 1 3P and 2 PRs, right? Where's everyone else? Who posts that much in QTs?
Aren't there 5 scum? Is this a scumslip?
The rules say 4 agents...and why would that be a scumslip?
Oh, you think I couldn't count myself? No...I just didn't read down like Jamie did when checking the rules. In all honesty, it's more likely a townslip from your POV (and from my POV it is totally a townslip).

I'm very confused though. Did Flum not increase the number of agents when he increased the number of goons?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#375 Post by therul » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:01 pm

Setup:
23 players

14 Town
1 2-Shot Oracle Mason
1 Protector Mason
1 Chosen One
13 Vanilla Town
1 Chosen One Miller

4 Agents
1 Encryptor
1 Turncoat
1 Security Agent
2 Goon

1 Third Party
Rogue Virus

I think it is a math issue. We have 23 players. I think we have 17 Town, 5 Agents, and 1 Third party. Based on the post. I think the counts were not updated.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#376 Post by ghug » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:01 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:58 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:53 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:51 pm


Aren't there 5 scum? Is this a scumslip?
The rules say 4 agents...and why would that be a scumslip?
Oh, you think I couldn't count myself? No...I just didn't read down like Jamie did when checking the rules. In all honesty, it's more likely a townslip from your POV (and from my POV it is totally a townslip).

I'm very confused though. Did Flum not increase the number of agents when he increased the number of goons?
The town numbers don't add up either. Calling out your own townslip is probably a townslip in itself.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#377 Post by goldfinger0303 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:02 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:53 pm
goldfinger0303 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:51 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:58 pm


"nearly everyone"? It'l like 4 scum, 1 3P and 2 PRs, right? Where's everyone else? Who posts that much in QTs?
Aren't there 5 scum? Is this a scumslip?
The rules say 4 agents...and why would that be a scumslip?
Setup:
23 players

14 Town
1 2-Shot Oracle Mason
1 Protector Mason
1 Chosen One
13 Vanilla Town
1 Chosen One Miller

4 Agents
1 Encryptor
1 Turncoat
1 Security Agent
2 Goon

1 Third Party
Rogue Virus

Clearly Flum can't math right, because both town and agent sums are off. But there are 5 agents.

5 agents - subtract yourself - 4 agents. Plausible scumslip.
I really don't like that people immediately came to your defense to deflect my point into a joke.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#378 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:03 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:53 pm

The rules say 4 agents...and why would that be a scumslip?
Something I can finally answer. Up to 5 with 23 players. 13 vanilla towns.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#379 Post by goldfinger0303 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:03 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:01 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:58 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:53 pm


The rules say 4 agents...and why would that be a scumslip?
Oh, you think I couldn't count myself? No...I just didn't read down like Jamie did when checking the rules. In all honesty, it's more likely a townslip from your POV (and from my POV it is totally a townslip).

I'm very confused though. Did Flum not increase the number of agents when he increased the number of goons?
The town numbers don't add up either. Calling out your own townslip is probably a townslip in itself.

Please explain

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#380 Post by therul » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:04 pm

therul wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:01 pm
Setup:
23 players

17 Town Roles Below
1 2-Shot Oracle Mason
1 Protector Mason
1 Chosen One
13 Vanilla Town
1 Chosen One Miller

4 Agents Roles Below
1 Encryptor
1 Turncoat
1 Security Agent
2 Goon

1 Third Party
Rogue Virus

I think it is a math issue. We have 23 players. I think we have 17 Town, 5 Agents, and 1 Third party. Based on the post. I think the counts were not updated.
I would think there is a no edit rule, right?

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