wD Mafia Master Post

[Chaqa]

I would like to run a mostly vanilla mini or full game

[kingofthepirates]

How does the next mafia game start, if I may ask? is it as simple as someone stepping up with an idea and saying they want to GM/run a game, or is there some kind of process?

[Chaqa]

How does the next mafia game start, if I may ask? is it as simple as someone stepping up with an idea and saying they want to GM/run a game, or is there some kind of process?

We've run the gamut from a long queue to basically forcing people to run games. If you're interested, generally we mention it here or in the discord.

[dargorygel]

I would like to run a mostly vanilla mini or full game

Thanks, Chaqa. Looking forward to hearing from you.

[dargorygel]

How does the next mafia game start, if I may ask? is it as simple as someone stepping up with an idea and saying they want to GM/run a game, or is there some kind of process?

We have a Kouncil... presently ghug and me.

[peterlund]

Ok after spending some hours this saturday on the bot fixing the "Diplomacy&Warefare" bug, I got it working. Now he is dead at the end of day 3.

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=87&phase=day&num=3

The issue was the html escape sequences. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XML_and_HTML_character_entity_references)

Now the Bot instead stores the users with proper unicode instead of with escapes. And now the bot understands some odd behaviour by the source server. I found this checking the html on the source server.

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Diplomacy&amp;amp;Warfare has died. He was Fink Angel.</div>

Why are there double "amp" here?

The erlang fix is here:
https://github.com/plund/mafia/commit/8e95b482b99d45a1e97f668bf031e375a667cd8b

[Jamiet99uk]

Thanks Peter.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

[Diplomacy&Warfare]

Ok after spending some hours this saturday on the bot fixing the "Diplomacy&Warefare" bug, I got it working. Now he is dead at the end of day 3.

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=87&phase=day&num=3

The issue was the html escape sequences. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XML_and_HTML_character_entity_references)

Now the Bot instead stores the users with proper unicode instead of with escapes. And now the bot understands some odd behaviour by the source server. I found this checking the html on the source server.

Code: Select all

<br>
Diplomacy&amp;amp;Warfare has died. He was Fink Angel.</div>

Why are there double "amp" here?

The erlang fix is here:
https://github.com/plund/mafia/commit/8e95b482b99d45a1e97f668bf031e375a667cd8b

Thank you!

[ghug]

Ok after spending some hours this saturday on the bot fixing the "Diplomacy&Warefare" bug, I got it working. Now he is dead at the end of day 3.

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=87&phase=day&num=3

The issue was the html escape sequences. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XML_and_HTML_character_entity_references)

Now the Bot instead stores the users with proper unicode instead of with escapes. And now the bot understands some odd behaviour by the source server. I found this checking the html on the source server.

Code: Select all

<br>
Diplomacy&amp;amp;Warfare has died. He was Fink Angel.</div>

Why are there double "amp" here?

The erlang fix is here:
https://github.com/plund/mafia/commit/8e95b482b99d45a1e97f668bf031e375a667cd8b

Thanks, Peter!

We attempted to have the GM messages escape the ampersands, which is presumably the source of the doubling.

[peterlund]

Seems correct.

I found the double amp in Jamie's message.
https://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=394319#p394319
And that messsage also looked a bit odd.

But in sweetandcool's message it looked correct and the bot saw that one.
http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=394111#p394111

... after fixing the user names storage in DB as and the message reading as proper unicode it worked as it should. (Anyhow now the bot understands the odd version too )

[ghug]

Seems correct.

I found the double amp in Jamie's message.
https://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=394319#p394319
And that messsage also looked a bit odd.

But in sweetandcool's message it looked correct and the bot saw that one.
http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=394111#p394111

... after fixing the user names storage in DB as and the message reading as proper unicode it worked as it should. (Anyhow now the bot understands the odd version too )

You should come play with us again sometime.

[Jamiet99uk]

Seems correct.

I found the double amp in Jamie's message.
https://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=394319#p394319
And that messsage also looked a bit odd.

But in sweetandcool's message it looked correct and the bot saw that one.
http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=394111#p394111

... after fixing the user names storage in DB as and the message reading as proper unicode it worked as it should. (Anyhow now the bot understands the odd version too )

For the record, I was instructed by Dargorygel to try entering a number of variants involving both the "&" and the word "amp", of which that was one of the ones Darg suggested. I wasn't just being crazy.

[dargorygel]

Jamie is correct. Having tried the logical, the likely, and the possible. I was suggesting the goofy and quirky.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie is correct. Having tried the logical, the likely, & the possible. I was suggesting the goofy & quirky.

It was worth a try.

[Chaqa]

The reason I suggested the "&" thing is because that is how we have had to enter D&W's name in the game setup box since he started playing. It seems like the bot handled it a bit differently elsewhere, so I'm curious to see if we can just enter his name normally now.

[peterlund]

The reason I suggested the "&" thing is because that is how we have had to enter D&W's name in the game setup box since he started playing. It seems like the bot handled it a bit differently elsewhere, so I'm curious to see if we can just enter his name normally now.

Yes now you enter the name normally. I have tested this.

[brainbomb]

New Business

Proposal 1
The Mafia Council returns to a 3 member board whose primary role is to govern complicated rules issues, adjudicate bans when necessary, regular upkeep of the bot, and approval of GMs and setups ahead of new games.

Proposal 2
The third position after ghug and darg be a community voted upon decision yearly where volunteers may be elected into that role, and serve a term of one year.

Proposal 3
Changing the community standard that games that are 48 hour day phases be an option for GMs, but that the official community standard be Undefined regarding phase lengths, and if night chats are open chat or not.

Proposal 4
The Council consider post minimums being raised to 15 posts per day phase, and capped at 100 posts per day phase.

Proposal 5
The community adopts an official scoring system and MVP system, and all MVP awards are declared by the GM of each game. In addition a player of the year award be created, and awarded by the council each year in January.

Proposal 6
Henceforth, any community decisions, including new council members, champs representatives, rules changes by voted on by the community for all who are interested in voting for said changes.

[Jamiet99uk]

New Business

Proposal 1
The Mafia Council returns to a 3 member board whose primary role is to govern complicated rules issues, adjudicate bans when necessary, regular upkeep of the bot, and approval of GMs and setups ahead of new games.

Proposal 2
The third position after ghug and darg be a community voted upon decision yearly where volunteers may be elected into that role, and serve a term of one year.

Proposal 3
Changing the community standard that games that are 48 hour day phases be an option for GMs, but that the official community standard be Undefined regarding phase lengths, and if night chats are open chat or not.

Proposal 4
The Council consider post minimums being raised to 15 posts per day phase, and capped at 100 posts per day phase.

Proposal 5
The community adopts an official scoring system and MVP system, and all MVP awards are declared by the GM of each game. In addition a player of the year award be created, and awarded by the council each year in January.

Proposal 6
Henceforth, any community decisions, including new council members, champs representatives, rules changes by voted on by the community for all who are interested in voting for said changes.

Proposal 1 is fine, in principle, but who is proposed as the third member?

Proposal 2 is based on the assumption that there are multiple persons willing to take on a Council role, which franky I belive is incorrect.

Proporal 3 has my support.

Proposal 4 would no be enforceable in practice (as discussed).

Proposal 5, I do not care about.

Proposal 6, I do not care about.

[foodcoats]

New Business

Proposal 1
The Mafia Council returns to a 3 member board whose primary role is to govern complicated rules issues, adjudicate bans when necessary, regular upkeep of the bot, and approval of GMs and setups ahead of new games.

Proposal 2
The third position after ghug and darg be a community voted upon decision yearly where volunteers may be elected into that role, and serve a term of one year.

Proposal 3
Changing the community standard that games that are 48 hour day phases be an option for GMs, but that the official community standard be Undefined regarding phase lengths, and if night chats are open chat or not.

Proposal 4
The Council consider post minimums being raised to 15 posts per day phase, and capped at 100 posts per day phase.

Proposal 5
The community adopts an official scoring system and MVP system, and all MVP awards are declared by the GM of each game. In addition a player of the year award be created, and awarded by the council each year in January.

Proposal 6
Henceforth, any community decisions, including new council members, champs representatives, rules changes by voted on by the community for all who are interested in voting for said changes.

I’m curious, what are the problem statements motivating these proposals?