M53: Mafia 1 Redux

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2441 Post by damo666 » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:05 pm

Haven't read last few pages so don't know why I'm lead wagon but I'm VT.

Look at the people on me.

Brain, if you are vig get off.

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2442 Post by flash2015 » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:06 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:53 pm
did flash say why he townreads damo now?
I never said I townread him. It is just my gut feel that Kalel is a more likely scum than damo.

Damo has been consistently after Kalel most of the game. You see that as a scum or town move?

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2443 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:10 pm

If it's not damo I'm going to be annoyed and hard-pushing Kalel tomorrow (if I survive the night). That's my view on today's lynch. I'll be back a bit after EoD.

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2444 Post by Kitsune » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:11 pm

Damo666 - scumlean

The other person whose voting record I hate.

D1 he fixes on Bob and ignores EMC.
D2 he flirts with Bunny, Brain, Bozo and KalEl before coming back to Bozo for the lynch.

Brief aside. If Damo does flip scum, we may find another scum in: Bunny, Brain, KalEl. Currently the scummiest of these three (for me) is Bunny, so if I'm dead before this happens please look at the Bun more closely.

Less fluff and nonsense D1, he criticizes Karrat and Bob for their medieval pageantry and critiques Plan Bozo, at least making an effort to make it more effective. Town points here.

Then goes on for a page and a half of (brief at least) pointless posts. Scum points.

Accuses Bunny, which is NAI for me, then claims a Townslip (half-jokingly I assume, but still feels... not great).

Both Vecna (later Townflip) and Jamie feel he's acting scummy for his meta (I don't know whether this is true, I never got a strong read on his meta before), and he defends himself cursorily by dismissing their accusations.

Points to Brain as possible Vig, linking him to the Neph kill.

Soooo many tiny little posts Day 2 it's actually giving me a headache trying to keep up with them all in ISO. They all seem to reference things which would probably make more sense if read in context, but there's a fair spread of banter in here to make it higher noise to lower signal - but never entirely without signal either.

Focuses on Brain or Bunny as scum, but feels it's unlikely to be both.

Finally moves to Bozo and shares my frustration at his literal last minute reveal.

Fingers Bob as scum next with tiny flippant reasons and gotchas. Not amazing.

Points to a scumpool of: Bob, Kalel, Flash, Karrot, Fo​od. I feel he's likely more wrong than right, but wouldn't be surprised to find a scum in here other than Karrot (and the scum is unlikely to be Kalel).

Then comes back to Kalel as scum and points there more strongly, which I don't like.

Could be still mistakenTown, but I scumlean him and will join his wagon if I can't get a Kakar wagon moving instead.

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2445 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:20 pm

I need to go to bed early.

I have a very early train to catch.

Do *not* lynch me; I am town.

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2446 Post by Kakarroto » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:22 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:26 pm
By the way @kak: your vote was invalid. Use 2 octothorpes followed by vote and then a name.
off, sorry, I went right to work after I posted. ##vote damo666
Kitsune wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:32 pm

[...]

Kakarroto - SCUM

It's been said that players who roleplay in Mafia tend to be Town, but in my mind this is exactly the definition of making a pretext for noise over signal posting. So scum points for the Emperor of Austria thing (don't know if this is 'conducive to his meta' or not, but I haven't played with him before that I recall so I can't go off my own knowledge here).

Played along with Bozo's scheme while carefully explaining why there was nothing to read from the names he picked; feels unnecessarily defensive.

Then the isekai thing began, which while I personally find a cute idea isn't helping Town. It just clutters up our discussion with more noise so the signal can't get through.

[...]

Avoids EMC's wagon completely and goes for Jamie (currently my top town read).

[...]

He defends you (Brain), insists Jamie is guilty and then leaps sideways onto Bozo without really having considered him in his own investigations before. Was he sheeping someone? Can't see it in his ISO, but that could explain it. He jumped literally one minute before EoD, so could have been jumping to protect Brain as much as because he thought Bozo should actually receive the lynch.

[...]

Some of this was the Isekai stuff again, which is just noise over signal once more. Like the concept, don't like the distraction of it mid game. Can't immediately tell what he's distracting from at this point.

So yeah, not thrilled with his voting record or his ISO.

##vote Kakarroto

(Sorry Kakar, and yes I'd love an onsen break after the game is over. I wish they had those over here).

[...]
No I'm completely agreeing with you, there was some stupid stuff I did, that's also why I was so suprised that flood had me down as obvtown.

Just some things about me: I really like to RP, maybe I've overdone it. When I get a gut feeling, I go for it, though I don't know most why I get that feeling. Bozo I 'felt off' (yeah, I know, I'm stupid) so that's why I scumread him, he felt quite different, brain feels like good old brain, that's why I went to protect brain and onto bozo because a tie for town isn't what we had needed there, as bad as it sounds, someone getting lynched D2 was better than a tie. Getting the cop down has cooled off some people I think, so as bad as that was, it had at least some benifits.

But yeah, I totally get why you'd read me as scum, might be best if I die soon to not distract town further.

Also, damo is getting now a pretty decent lead, half of the players are on to him. I can't believe you actually voted the one I 'voted' for and is on the way to get lynched. Hmmm ...

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2447 Post by brainbomb » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:24 pm

##Vote kakkarotto

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2448 Post by Kakarroto » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:26 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:24 pm
##Vote kakkarotto
hmm, actually ... I think you are a genius here brain. Hey guys, who wants to lynch me?

##vote kakarroto

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2449 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:30 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:26 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:24 pm
##Vote kakkarotto
hmm, actually ... I think you are a genius here brain. Hey guys, who wants to lynch me?

##vote kakarroto
Why not actually advocate for a lynch you think is scum, since you presumably aren't confessing? This is a real question.

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2450 Post by Kakarroto » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:30 pm

come on, you did see kitsune make a pretty decent, no, rather extremely well case, don't you want points for voting?

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2451 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:30 pm

Why is Steve voting for himself? Home in 15. Please have a summary for me.

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2452 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:31 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:30 pm
Why is Steve voting for himself? Home in 15. Please have a summary for me.
Can we not do the Steve thing? It's unhelpful.

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2453 Post by brainbomb » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:31 pm

it was never funny anyway

sorry neph

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2454 Post by Kakarroto » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:31 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:30 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:26 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:24 pm
##Vote kakkarotto
hmm, actually ... I think you are a genius here brain. Hey guys, who wants to lynch me?

##vote kakarroto
Why not actually advocate for a lynch you think is scum, since you presumably aren't confessing? This is a real question.
Because I think I'm a dead man walking anyway, this way I'm forcing other people to give more information to help town in the last bit.

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2455 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:32 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:30 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:26 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:24 pm
##Vote kakkarotto
hmm, actually ... I think you are a genius here brain. Hey guys, who wants to lynch me?

##vote kakarroto
Why not actually advocate for a lynch you think is scum, since you presumably aren't confessing? This is a real question.
To clarify, this is a real question and there is an answer key I am grading against.

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2456 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:32 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:31 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:30 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:26 pm


hmm, actually ... I think you are a genius here brain. Hey guys, who wants to lynch me?

##vote kakarroto
Why not actually advocate for a lynch you think is scum, since you presumably aren't confessing? This is a real question.
Because I think I'm a dead man walking anyway, this way I'm forcing other people to give more information to help town in the last bit.
Ugh. That is not the star pupil answer.

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2457 Post by flash2015 » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:33 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:26 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:24 pm
##Vote kakkarotto
hmm, actually ... I think you are a genius here brain. Hey guys, who wants to lynch me?

##vote kakarroto
What is your opinion on Kalel/Damo? Or do you believe neither of them is scum?

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2458 Post by brainbomb » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:33 pm

I think Jamie is scum

and Kak pushing jamie all game calling him sk has never bothered jamie at all. not actually.

so what that tells me is kak chose to bus calling his own guy sk. and then when real sk dies it gives kak a reason to elevate jamie to town

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2459 Post by foodcoats » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:34 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:31 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:30 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:26 pm


hmm, actually ... I think you are a genius here brain. Hey guys, who wants to lynch me?

##vote kakarroto
Why not actually advocate for a lynch you think is scum, since you presumably aren't confessing? This is a real question.
Because I think I'm a dead man walking anyway, this way I'm forcing other people to give more information to help town in the last bit.
You weren't even a wagon :?

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Re: M53: Mafia 1 Redux

#2460 Post by brainbomb » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:35 pm

thats my theory at least. add jamie logging off satisfied at the wagons. It feels like scum admitting damo and kalel is town v town

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