MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

##CallGM: can Reaver press violations be assumed to have happened since the most recent previous GM call or post? Is there a timeframe as to when they are posted?

[xorxes]

Yes we do, darg. He wouldn't have been able to visit you if he was reavered.

I'll give another fun little breadcrumb to everyone. Vote damo to make sure Alliance has to kill another VT tonight.

We're not lynching damo on the advice of a non-town.

Lynch today is probably ##VOTE worcej

But we need to think about it some more.

[xorxes]

We're not deciding anything before dargo tells us whether Tom is a Reaver or not.

goldfinger is confirmed Reaver Prime. But we can't lynch him before we find who Reaver2 is.

How so?

It's clear to me Mafia were trying to mask the goldie/worcej thing.


Also - did no one else notice that ysterday's vote count, xorxes clearly did NOT have his +C or his +2 votes?

I was just seeing that. So... Xorxes Reaves

The only way I could have been Reaver D2 is if you are one as well. Remember that you only saw Jamiet visit me N1 and you said nobody visited me N2.

[xorxes]

Ohhhhhh, I think I know what kits post means.

Reaver is now and active NK. They have their 3.

That could be true.

[xorxes]

Did you... watch yourself?

Is that legal?

Chaqa, why aren't you reading the thread?

I have been - did I miss something?

Yes, the plan to clear Tom.

[Kitsune]

##CallGM: can Reaver press violations be assumed to have happened since the most recent previous GM call or post? Is there a timeframe as to when they are posted?

There is an indicative timeframe on when they are posted, which is included in the closed section of the rules.

[dargorygel]

So our Capt is likely (or was likely) still our Captain

[Chaqa]

How so?

It's clear to me Mafia were trying to mask the goldie/worcej thing.


Also - did no one else notice that ysterday's vote count, xorxes clearly did NOT have his +C or his +2 votes?

I was just seeing that. So... Xorxes Reaves

The only way I could have been Reaver D2 is if you are one as well. Remember that you only saw Jamiet visit me N1 and you said nobody visited me N2.

I think it's safe for now that xorx/Tom/dargo aren't Reavers. ND we also know isn't a Reaver.

Goldie/worcej almost certainly Investigator/BH.

RP/Agent candidates:
Fox
EMC
Temasek
Chaqa

[xorxes]

Why would GM let us know of three reavers? Wouldn't we just be told when they actually start killing by telling us of a death?

That's what I would expect. GM is probably just messing with us.

##CALL GM: Are we supposed to infer anything from flavor posts? The rule usually is that flavor is just flavor and players should not read anything into it. Is this game different?

[Chaqa]

##CallGM: can Reaver press violations be assumed to have happened since the most recent previous GM call or post? Is there a timeframe as to when they are posted?

There is an indicative timeframe on when they are posted, which is included in the closed section of the rules.

Hmm... I wonder if it's a "within x" interval, or if it's an "x hours" later interval...

[dargorygel]

How so?

It's clear to me Mafia were trying to mask the goldie/worcej thing.


Also - did no one else notice that ysterday's vote count, xorxes clearly did NOT have his +C or his +2 votes?

I was just seeing that. So... Xorxes Reaves

The only way I could have been Reaver D2 is if you are one as well. Remember that you only saw Jamiet visit me N1 and you said nobody visited me N2.

Of course... But you seemed to have lost your power.

[xorxes]

##vote damo

I think kits post is trying to tell us that bozo was a Reaver kill? If I was roleblocked last night, how could I do the NK? I cannot be Reaver prime.

And yes xorxes, I baited the Alliance to do just that. They know now I'm the real BH now. To town: You're welcome for me saving a PRs life last night. Please support me by killing the Reaver damo, if you really want confirmation.

I mean, if you think I'm RP, why not just keep shutting me down at night? Kill me and damo can convert another, no?

You're jumping to conclusions all over the place.

If Reavers killed bozo, who did Mafia kill?

How is that consistent with you baiting the Alliance to do that?

How do they know now you are the real BH and not worcej?

I'm not convinced that damo is a Reaver, but he could be.

I'm just posting as I come up with ideas. But I'm pretty sure now that the reavers will now start to have a NK. And that would mean Alliance killed bozo, which tracks.

There was no scum RB alive to prevent damo from getting a scan. Is there any other explanation?

Kalel was alive N2 when damo was supposedly roleblocked.

[goldfinger0303]

Would that RB have passed on to D3?

And if he was RB'd D3, couldn't he have tried again during N3?

[xorxes]

Why would GM let us know of three reavers? Wouldn't we just be told when they actually start killing by telling us of a death?

GM Clarification:

This was a Level 1 Reaver Press Rules Violation.

This is to indicate that a violation has occurred in the existing pattern, but not who is responsible for it.

A Level 2 Rules Violation, if incurred, will reveal a player as a Reaver.

Thank you!

Ok Bunny, you have something more to work with now.

[Chaqa]

I was just seeing that. So... Xorxes Reaves

The only way I could have been Reaver D2 is if you are one as well. Remember that you only saw Jamiet visit me N1 and you said nobody visited me N2.

Of course... But you seemed to have lost your power.

The GM corrected us there.

[Chaqa]

Would that RB have passed on to D3?

And if he was RB'd D3, couldn't he have tried again during N3?

Yes, the roleblocks are Night+Day.

##CallGM: would a role with a single-phase cooldown who is roleblcked be able to use their ability immediately afterward, or would the cooldown be in effect as if they had used it even though roleblocked?

[xorxes]

I was just seeing that. So... Xorxes Reaves

The only way I could have been Reaver D2 is if you are one as well. Remember that you only saw Jamiet visit me N1 and you said nobody visited me N2.

I think it's safe for now that xorx/Tom/dargo aren't Reavers. ND we also know isn't a Reaver.

Goldie/worcej almost certainly Investigator/BH.

RP/Agent candidates:
Fox
EMC
Temasek
Chaqa

How are Goldie/worcej more likely Investigator than RP?

[Chaqa]

The only way I could have been Reaver D2 is if you are one as well. Remember that you only saw Jamiet visit me N1 and you said nobody visited me N2.

I think it's safe for now that xorx/Tom/dargo aren't Reavers. ND we also know isn't a Reaver.

Goldie/worcej almost certainly Investigator/BH.

RP/Agent candidates:
Fox
EMC
Temasek
Chaqa

How are Goldie/worcej more likely Investigator than RP?

Are *you* reading the thread?

I've explained it like three times.

I'm really sick of being ignored. Why do I even bother. Everyone and their mother is a town clear, so who's gonna listen to Chaqa.

w/e

go lynch the wrong person again

[xorxes]

##CallGM: can Reaver press violations be assumed to have happened since the most recent previous GM call or post? Is there a timeframe as to when they are posted?

There is an indicative timeframe on when they are posted, which is included in the closed section of the rules.

Hmm... I wonder if it's a "within x" interval, or if it's an "x hours" later interval...

Can't be "x hours" because GMs are not on duty 24/7. They would not be able to apply the rule consistently.

[goldfinger0303]

Chaqa, stop this, you're acting like you're making sense.

Ooooh, oooh I know. Can we kill one of worcej's other bounty claims? That would work well for hunting the agent and RP too. We're down to a what 2/5 chance of hitting scum there?