M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

[Squigs44]

Okay I gotta think about how to do this

[Vaporwave]

BG, once you put ##END after a vote it will end the phase quicker if the majority does it

this is so that xorxes doesn't shoot again D4 If he gets his target N3

Assassin gun is NK only. I understand your point of it were not.

I don’t see why vote End.

He's got that power, Bunny. He might bamboozle some of you

[rdrivera2005]

##GM Note

Had some questions on this. As long as players are playing in a way they believe will progress their win condition, they are allowed to employ any strategy they want.

Does the game automatically end if the assassin wins?

If the Assassin wins, he exits the game. The Town would thereafter be unable to win. The game has not yet ended at this point - Mafia, Infector, or NK Tanner could still win, though Town could not.

The Mafia's win condition does not strictly conflict with any other win condition.

But if Mafia do this town will make sure Mafia didn't win, so I can't see why they will help Assassin unless they think they can't win anymore (I didn't do the math, considering the roles, have someone did it?).

[xorxes]

Does the game automatically end if the assassin wins?

If the Assassin wins, he exits the game. The Town would thereafter be unable to win. The game has not yet ended at this point - Mafia, Infector, or NK Tanner could still win, though Town could not.

The Mafia's win condition does not strictly conflict with any other win condition.

But if Mafia do this town will make sure Mafia didn't win, so I can't see why they will help Assassin unless they think they can't win anymore (I didn't do the math, considering the roles, have someone did it?).

Mafia can't win if I lose (too many clears, whatever bozo says).

If I win, they can hope enough townies are good sports and not deny them their win for no reason.

[rdrivera2005]

If the Assassin wins, he exits the game. The Town would thereafter be unable to win. The game has not yet ended at this point - Mafia, Infector, or NK Tanner could still win, though Town could not.

The Mafia's win condition does not strictly conflict with any other win condition.

But if Mafia do this town will make sure Mafia didn't win, so I can't see why they will help Assassin unless they think they can't win anymore (I didn't do the math, considering the roles, have someone did it?).

Mafia can't win if I lose (too many clears, whatever bozo says).

If I win, they can hope enough townies are good sports and not deny them their win for no reason.

I don't think good sports have nothing to do with this. If they choose to screw us, why town won't do the same?

[xorxes]

But if Mafia do this town will make sure Mafia didn't win, so I can't see why they will help Assassin unless they think they can't win anymore (I didn't do the math, considering the roles, have someone did it?).

Mafia can't win if I lose (too many clears, whatever bozo says).

If I win, they can hope enough townies are good sports and not deny them their win for no reason.

I don't think good sports have nothing to do with this. If they choose to screw us, why town won't do the same?

That's up to town to decide, but it's at least a chance. The other way is certain loss.

[TrPrado]

I’ve been doing housework all day and am only just now getting time to read, can I get a summary of everything that’s happened since the hammer?

[Vaporwave]

If and that's a big 'if' assassin wins by getting his 2 targets tonight,
then we should fight even harder as town to not let mafia win

We're definitely not staying passive, I know I won't

the game will either end with assassin winning or town winning, there's no inbetween

[worcej]

Mafia can't win if I lose (too many clears, whatever bozo says).

If I win, they can hope enough townies are good sports and not deny them their win for no reason.

I don't think good sports have nothing to do with this. If they choose to screw us, why town won't do the same?

That's up to town to decide, but it's at least a chance. The other way is certain loss.

Considering Squigs is a solo-operative atm, his push is 100% his own opinion and not the teams unless they have been whining in the QT that this game is unfair for them lol.

Regardless, it's open to interpretation. I think Squigs will to give you a hint to figure it out, but not outright say who it is because then his team for sure will lose.

And if xorxes does pull his contracts off, I will 100% work to ensure mafia also lose.

[bozotheclown]

If the Assassin wins, he exits the game. The Town would thereafter be unable to win. The game has not yet ended at this point - Mafia, Infector, or NK Tanner could still win, though Town could not.

The Mafia's win condition does not strictly conflict with any other win condition.

But if Mafia do this town will make sure Mafia didn't win, so I can't see why they will help Assassin unless they think they can't win anymore (I didn't do the math, considering the roles, have someone did it?).

Mafia can't win if I lose (too many clears, whatever bozo says).

If I win, they can hope enough townies are good sports and not deny them their win for no reason.

The mafia has a chance at winning as long as they do not give xorxes the information he wants. If the mafia decide to throw the game, the town is not going to lynch themselves to give a win to mafia.

[dargorygel]

Basically, yes. You don't need to name names. Jost say something like "the one with the longest name iis the hooker" or whatever you prefer. Something I can use to tell Hooker appart from Janitor.

As for which townie you have to get killed, that will be more complicated. I'll try to think of a way to let you know. So many eavesdroppers...

You could whisper it to me... And I'll whisper it to them

Shwshrswshrsh, shrwrshsrwsh shrwhshrwsh!

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[Squigs44]

Here's where I'm at. Letting Xorxes know who my teammates are is helping mafia get decimated. However, if Xorxes already knows who my teammates are, then if I give Xorxes info helping differentiate between the two, then that wont change whether he shoots into mafia or not, and wont hurt mafia.

[Squigs44]

The Hooker comes later alphabetically than the Janitor.

Doesnt give away my teammates in any way.

Now who do we need to kill?

[xorxes]

The Hooker comes later alphabetically than the Janitor.

Doesnt give away my teammates in any way.

Now who do we need to kill?

Thanks. I will try to let you know closer to the deadline.

[xorxes]

The Hooker comes later alphabetically than the Janitor.

Doesnt give away my teammates in any way.

Now who do we need to kill?

Thanks. I will try to let you know closer to the deadline.

If I hint at the role do you think you have it more or less figured all out, or do I need to try to convey the name?

[Squigs44]

The Hooker comes later alphabetically than the Janitor.

Doesnt give away my teammates in any way.

Now who do we need to kill?

Thanks. I will try to let you know closer to the deadline.

If I hint at the role do you think you have it more or less figured all out, or do I need to try to convey the name?

Let me sit down and try to puzzle it all out

[Squigs44]

Do we have a full role list?

[Squigs44]

Mafia
​Hammerer (Squigs, outted)
Hooker
Janitor
Role Thief (Temasek, dead)
Traitor (Jamie, dead)

3P
​Chameleon (bionic, dead)
Assassin (Xorxes, claimed)
Infector

​Town
Gunsmith
Driver (darg, claimed)
Doctor (Bo, dead)
JOAT (damo, dead)
Vengeful
Bulletproof (Flav, confirmed)
Interceptor (Kitsune, claimed)
Commuter
Tracker
Item Smith
Philosoraptor
Magnet
Medium (Bozo, claimed)

Is this correct?

[Squigs44]

Remaining players that need ID:

BobMcBob
BunnyGo - shot Jamie
Ezio
KalelChase - says he can be confirmed by Kitsune
RagingIke
rdrivera - says he can be confirmed by Ktisune
TrPrado
Vaporwave
Vecna
worcej - confirmed town by bunnygo

[Squigs44]

I think I can place BunnyGo, and worcej, but I could be wrong.
Kalel and rdrivera could be either/or on two slots.
I know my teammates obviously.

So no, I don't know everyone, but I could take a guess.