MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4621 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:11 pm

We have two options at this stage.

1. No lynch stone Maniac/EP then lynch them tomorrow.

2. We take a stab and have a "50/50". Assuming that goes well I would be an ideal target to stone based on the suspicion I've got on me rn.

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#4622 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:12 pm

As for the Vapor wagon, he was my in my top 2 scumreads prior to the point where I was already looking for his scum buddies (see the Chinese Navy post)

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#4623 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:13 pm

And it hardly takes a genius to see me backing right off since the Bunny thing. I needed some space to let my head clear.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4624 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:25 pm

Also just to give my thoughts. I dislike the Maniac claim for a few reasons

1. Why would you fake two claims if you knew there was a good chance you were going to have to make a serious claim later.
2. Claiming doc an hour before a lynch IS good play because it allows time to discuss the claim. Its more indicative of a true claim
3. Staying silent just seems weird when you are about to be lynched. It would AT LEAST use up a NK or even two if you were able to self save.
4. No reason is given WHY you self-saved on N2. Seems odd.

All this just adds up poorly

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4625 Post by rdrivera2005 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:02 pm

I think we have two options if town still have the stone:

1-Use it on Maniac, we either get a scum on him or a clear and EP is scum.
We lynch scum and lose our doctor if thec scum isn't RB

2-Use the stone in a scummy player at the stone holder choice with the other giving suggestions and we wait to sort Maniac/EP later as scum will need to kill the real doc at some point.

The worst option to me is to go for a 50/50 lynch.

If we don't have the stone we are screwed.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4626 Post by rdrivera2005 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:04 pm

Nephthys wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:25 pm
Also just to give my thoughts. I dislike the Maniac claim for a few reasons

1. Why would you fake two claims if you knew there was a good chance you were going to have to make a serious claim later.
2. Claiming doc an hour before a lynch IS good play because it allows time to discuss the claim. Its more indicative of a true claim
3. Staying silent just seems weird when you are about to be lynched. It would AT LEAST use up a NK or even two if you were able to self save.
4. No reason is given WHY you self-saved on N2. Seems odd.

All this just adds up poorly
Both claims are hard to believe to be honest. I would still not clear the other if one flips scum.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4627 Post by RagingIke297 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:06 pm

##GM NOTE

A yellow light dances around Damo!

He is Gamora! A Vanilla town!
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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4628 Post by Kitsune » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:42 pm

RagingIke297 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:06 pm
##GM NOTE

A yellow light dances around Damo!

He is Gamora! A Vanilla town!
Okay so that's interesting.

I can see situations where either Town or Mafia could want this, but it's probably proof that the SK does not have the mind stone since I can't even think of a crazy reason they'd want this to be public knowledge.

It does combine to make Damo the safest person in the game, though, so I'm keen to hear his reads and views now that he's certain who he is.
damo666 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:50 am
Neph and Maniac in my sights. Then maybe KC and foodie as the deep. SK is ?
damo666 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:55 am
Forgot sulit
Damo/Gamora Reads

Neph/Maniac
Kalel/Foodie
Sulit?

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Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:58 pm
Here is the latest chapter of my story. I'm going to call this episode....

"The one where Maniac claims to be the Doctor"

Again it's a long story so I suggest you get yourself a cup of tea, settle down and prepare to have your opinions of me turned upside down and on their head.

This chapter starts right at the very start. Right back on Page 1, i notice this from Foxcastle. It's his first comment
...
Well said. Well explained. Well written.

I don't believe it for a second.

Maniac has been consistently scum-read by an increasing majority of the Town and somehow keeps squeaking by with someone else thrust into the limelight. We can't let him do this again. He's certainly scum, and at this point I don't care if that means he's mafia or SK. The people we (Neph especially) have highlighted as defending him turn out to have been acting for their own reasons, so I could even believe Handsome Jack as Thanos - and at this point I don't particularly care which brand of scum he is.

I get that there's a subtlety where we're not meant to be fighting Thanos yet (really?!) but from my new player vantagepoint he's just one more person who wants me and my friends to be dead.

And I honestly think he's more likely to be Mafia than SK.

##vote Maniac

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#4629 Post by Kitsune » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:43 pm

Who was it earlier who kept saying "lynch all liars?"

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#4630 Post by EspressoPatronum » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:47 pm

Ok, that random CC and Mind Stone reveal tell me we might be in a really bad spot. Here's what I think:

Maniac figured he'd get lynched soon (he's in most people's top scumreads). It doesn't even matter if he lost the CC as long as I'm the next highest wagon, as they'll space stone him out before EOD. With me as the next highest, they get a free PR lynch.

The Mind Stone reveal suggests to me that scum has the Mind Stone. Instead of revealing me or Maniac to remove the chance of a 50/50 lynch, the person used the Mind Stone on damo.

I suggest we put up Maniac as the lead wagon but we have to ensure the next highest wagon is our next highest scum read. Alternatively, we could try an END vote on him before we get close to the time stone mark.

##vote Maniac


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#4632 Post by damo666 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:47 pm

Catching up. Back soon

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4633 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:50 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:04 pm
Nephthys wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:25 pm
Also just to give my thoughts. I dislike the Maniac claim for a few reasons

1. Why would you fake two claims if you knew there was a good chance you were going to have to make a serious claim later.
2. Claiming doc an hour before a lynch IS good play because it allows time to discuss the claim. Its more indicative of a true claim
3. Staying silent just seems weird when you are about to be lynched. It would AT LEAST use up a NK or even two if you were able to self save.
4. No reason is given WHY you self-saved on N2. Seems odd.

All this just adds up poorly
Both claims are hard to believe to be honest. I would still not clear the other if one flips scum.
I wondered about this but I can't for the life of me find where they figured out that EMC was the doc

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4634 Post by Chaqa » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:12 am

Damo being clear means my reads were awful. Ugh.

##Vote Maniac
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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4635 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:45 am

Chaqa wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:12 am
Damo being clear means my reads were awful. Ugh.

##Vote Maniac
##END
Don't try to end hammer again or I will just push your lynch.

I think we should ignore both Maniac and EC and go for another scum lynch. Maniac and EP will be solved one way or another.

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#4636 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:47 am

Also, if Maniac is scum he is probably the Janitor.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4637 Post by Chaqa » Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:55 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:45 am
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:12 am
Damo being clear means my reads were awful. Ugh.

##Vote Maniac
##END
Don't try to end hammer again or I will just push your lynch.

I think we should ignore both Maniac and EC and go for another scum lynch. Maniac and EP will be solved one way or another.
I’m doing it because I’m not moving my vote, but I can ##UNEND if you want.

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#4638 Post by Kitsune » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:56 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:45 am
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:12 am
Damo being clear means my reads were awful. Ugh.

##Vote Maniac
##END
Don't try to end hammer again or I will just push your lynch.

I think we should ignore both Maniac and EC and go for another scum lynch. Maniac and EP will be solved one way or another.
I feel there have been all too many excuses for Maniac or reasons to go lynch someone else “just this time”, but I’m listening. Who did you have in mind?

Agree completely with your other point though. No more end hammering, we need to discuss everything clearly and openly, not shove wagons through “just because”.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4639 Post by Chaqa » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:35 am

To be fair I didn’t plan on hammering Vapor originally until the Space Stone thing was brought up

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4640 Post by Maniac » Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:49 am

Chaqa wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:35 am
To be fair I didn’t plan on hammering Vapor originally until the Space Stone thing was brought up
Would scum have alerted you to that possibility or kept quiet?

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