MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[Nephthys]

Chaqa is very much town this game, yes a bit uninspiring, but full-fledged town

If Maniac gets to be killed by a meteorite and flips scum, remember this resistance to his wagon

so far, there are only 2 sexy towns on him: me and xorxes

people have come up with excuses for him, to be noted for later

There is no way this comes from S/T.

If Maniac is town then Vapor is very likely town as well

[Nephthys]

A meta comment on rdr,

If you look back at last game, D1 there was a lot of

"I think this..."
"A fw thoughts so far"

On the whole he gives his opinion on peoples play and offers original reads organically as they present.

There is less coherency in his game this time. Its more commenting on this as they occur, without a final summary.

[Nephthys]

I think I've misread somebody. Not disclosing now.

Vote count please.

That was clse.

Did you ever disclose this?

I know you mentioned something about the letter "o" but still thats weird...

[Nephthys]

So, I am not the only incompetent Day 1 Vig around. Worcej with one hour to go is a terrible choice.

Anyone on D1 is a horrible choice. At least vig didn't hit a PR

Yeah. First of all, it's a *strange* choice, and second of all, it's a hella risky shot.

Elaborate on risky?

[Nephthys]

I don't detect anything unusual about bozo from a meta perspective and think their day has played out very classically bozo. I also don't see anything about bozo from a purely in-thread perspective that makes them really scummy. I was pinged early by bozo swiftly condemning something as "bussing," but that's also a bias - people are always whinging on about bussing here, but it's so conditional that it's hard for bussing to be a reliable argument until you know at least one scum, so I don't cleave to people who go on about bussing of two or more persons of unconfirmed status.

That said overall I did rate bozo null. So... is there anything particularly convincing about bozo that makes them truly scummy and deserving of being lynched? Right now I am tempted to move my vote to ND because I'd prefer a policy lynch to bozo, but maybe I'm missing something juicy.

This seems like the kind of post that is not out of place as S/T. It is just unsure enough to allow a switch later if needed.

A towny version of this would be "I don't have bozo as a scumread so will not vote him today, people are putting too much emphasis on the bussing
comment."

[Nephthys]

the only bad thing is that we dont know if thanos used that pre claim
which means thanos might be ND after all

lol

True.

Thanos would probably want to be on the lynching wagon in case there's a stone to be had though. That makes our best candidates for Thanos:

Nephthys
rdrivera2005
BunnyGo
Kitsune
KalelChase
brainbomb
EspressoPatronum

There's an argument to be made that Thanos would not be on the wagon though, so I guess that's not saying a lot.

This post is limp. There is little point to it.

Xorx is my prime Thanos candidate. He seems lacking in the final sentence on all his posts that sum things up. Its like he buys the present, wraps it up then lets someone else give it to the recipient.

[Nephthys]

@Kalel

Agreed, if that was sincerely meant then it could still be very useful information.

Snipping the top 5 on the list to look at, we have:

Espresso 8
Kalel 8
emc 7
bozo 6
Chaqa 4

Let's... politely ignore bozo's name out of respect and look at the rest using Food's heuristic.

Espresso - I don't necessarily trust his reads (because I can't, and because some of them are based on meta I'm not privy to) but he's actually growing on me with a positive and investigative style. I'm pushing Townlean here. He was in on the mistaken lynch of Bozo, as was I.

Kalel - Going back through his post list for Day 1, I'm starting to realise how little there was actually there. I still can't find anything bad there, but with the second lowest posting stats among players (yes, even yuuki came back with a vengeance) and precious little meat or investigation in his posts when they did come I'm pushing scumlean here. Newbie solidarity or no. He was in on the mistaken lynch of Bozo, as was I.

Emc - A long absence near the start which I'm fully aware from out-of-game reasons was genuine (*glare*) doesn't look great, but he came back with a vengeance to be a roughly middle poster. One good post around page 44, and then some solid reasoning vs Maniac and on the last minute voting shift. I'm pushing null here for our tiny overlord. Although if he starts snipping my hair I'm going to step on him. He voted Maniac, along with Xorxes.

Chaqa - Down in the low-posters again (18 according to the bot, which yes I'm learning to use). Low participation too, it feels like he's going along with the flow rather than offering up any new information or arguments. He claims that's his meta and most of you seem to accept that, but based on what I can see myself I'm thinking scumlean here until we see more of the active Detective Chaqa on the case. He voted ND, along with six others. Thanos did not prefer this lynch.

Thoughts: Why is humour and helpfulness a sign of being scummy? That seems like it would be helpful for a town pulling together to figure who is right and who is dead?

All in all this guy is 85% town

[Nephthys]

the only bad thing is that we dont know if thanos used that pre claim
which means thanos might be ND after all

lol

True.

Thanos would probably want to be on the lynching wagon in case there's a stone to be had though. That makes our best candidates for Thanos:

Nephthys
rdrivera2005
BunnyGo
Kitsune
KalelChase
brainbomb
EspressoPatronum

There's an argument to be made that Thanos would not be on the wagon though, so I guess that's not saying a lot.

That's an interesting question. Would SK risk being discovered (or at last restricting a lot the possibilites) to get a stone or just use his power to generate confusion and hide deeper.

Anyway, good move from Bozo and I was wrong about him again

Have to reconsider some things.

This post is nothing more than a weak attempt to drive away the convo from scumhunting...

He opens a conversation with no attempt to drive it or form opinions from it.

Then it just.... drops. Nothing.

[Nephthys]

Town
Brain
Xorx
Kitsune
EMC
Bunny

Townlean
Damo


Scumlean
Food
Jamie
Kalel

Scum
Espresso
Rdr

Just some from the top of my head

[BunnyGo]

And finally

From the Maf QT
ND: By the grace of Donald, I now pronounce you... raptor Jesus

Temasek: I was hoping this ceremony would be like... better?

Rivera: *sips caprini's*

Neph: I dont want to marry a dinosaur.. can we do something else?

Rivera: *puts on capri pants and rides a horse down the beach screaming the british are coming*

ND: The BRITISH? Those socialist scum? The UK is one step away from Pol Pot.

Temasek: I think I wanna concede. this maf team sucks.

Neph: Yes. but at least were not those evil communists

How is it even possible that 3 of us from the M48 scum team are back again, what are the odds?! Also, more unrelated note, but what’s a Capri pants?!

It happened or it didn't. "The odds" don't matter.

[BunnyGo]

It's like the following story:

Two philosophers are arguing about the odds there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. One is arguing the Drake equation makes sense and filling in numbers. One is arguing something else. Etc. Etc.

They find a magic lamp with a genie who offers to answer any one question. They ask:

"What are the odds there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe?"

The genie replies:

"You want to know if there's intelligent life elsewhere?"

"No. No. Don't tell us. Just tell us the odds"

The confused genie zaps the philosophers.

[damo666]

I think I've misread somebody. Not disclosing now.

Vote count please.

That was clse.

Did you ever disclose this?

I know you mentioned something about the letter "o" but still thats weird...

No. The 'o' is nt imprtant. Yu just missed a stupid jke.

What I meant was that I now think a player I was town reading is scum.

[rdrivera2005]

A meta comment on rdr,

If you look back at last game, D1 there was a lot of

"I think this..."
"A fw thoughts so far"

On the whole he gives his opinion on peoples play and offers original reads organically as they present.

There is less coherency in his game this time. Its more commenting on this as they occur, without a final summary.

You were commenting about last game where I was scum with you?

[Nephthys]

A meta comment on rdr,

If you look back at last game, D1 there was a lot of

"I think this..."
"A fw thoughts so far"

On the whole he gives his opinion on peoples play and offers original reads organically as they present.

There is less coherency in his game this time. Its more commenting on this as they occur, without a final summary.

You were commenting about last game where I was scum with you?

oh shit, my bad

Totally forgot you were there us

Awkward

[Maniac]

@brain - I like your espresso case and it fits in with my theory about xorxes. What did you think of my xorxes case. To me it ‘feels’ right, but I want to be careful of tunnelling.

[Nephthys]

A meta comment on rdr,

If you look back at last game, D1 there was a lot of

"I think this..."
"A fw thoughts so far"

On the whole he gives his opinion on peoples play and offers original reads organically as they present.

There is less coherency in his game this time. Its more commenting on this as they occur, without a final summary.

You were commenting about last game where I was scum with you?

Guess you just got some town points?

[damo666]

Isn't tomorrow an auto lynch of ND(sub)?

Please explain if you think not.

[Maniac]

Kalal - “so I hope to be much more helpful to the Avengers moving forward...”

Uses the term ‘The Avengers” as if he isn’t part of the team. Seems confident he’ll be around moving forward and won’t be NightKilled or lynched.

[Maniac]

Isn't tomorrow an auto lynch of ND(sub)?

Please explain if you think not.

I don’t know surely scum would’ve preferred a tie to limit knowledge rather than using the power boast to break the tie if ND was scum?

[BunnyGo]

Isn't tomorrow an auto lynch of ND(sub)?

Please explain if you think not.

I don’t know surely scum would’ve preferred a tie to limit knowledge rather than using the power boast to break the tie if ND was scum?

The power boost is the SK power, right?