Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

##unvote

[e.m.c^42]

@emc

why would you self vote as tree stump to start the game?

to troll the salty player/s :D

there's literally no difference in that and not voting, so might as well take advantage of the only time I can actually use that particular type of joke.

Was going to use it last game actually, but something came up. it snowballing into an actual thread topic was unintended.

What do you mean, "that particular type of joke"?

Voting for myself, in addition to a sentence with meaning along the lines of "ha ha im first to vote, now you can't bother me about being last to vote lololxd" in an utterly useless fashion, with self aware irony.

As evidenced, it didn't convoy over too well.

[Vecna]

nows thats once again proven how shit all y'alls reads are......

cab I tempt you with a Percy wagon?

[damo666]

##vote bozo

[bozotheclown]

I suspect the top wagons are all town (I know I am).

[bo_sox48]

Vecna, I may be willing to give it a shot if you'll give me 5 minutes to iso him.

[Foxcastle]

to troll the salty player/s :D

there's literally no difference in that and not voting, so might as well take advantage of the only time I can actually use that particular type of joke.

Was going to use it last game actually, but something came up. it snowballing into an actual thread topic was unintended.

What do you mean, "that particular type of joke"?

Voting for myself, in addition to a sentence with meaning along the lines of "ha ha im first to vote, now you can't bother me about being last to vote lololxd" in an utterly useless fashion, with self aware irony.

As evidenced, it didn't convoy over too well.

Yeah, but interesting how a threat rdrivera and I made many weeks ago stuck with you... Sounds like you wanted to defuse the situation before you could get any attention. And yeah, backfired.

[Chaqa]

Sigh. Why the hell shoot Moscow? Did I miss something?

Given we now know Rivera is town for sure, I like my bo vote more, but I would also be willing to follow the confirm town’s lead if we get down to a tiebreak type situation, as I do find bozo a bit scummy for his mass claim idea and some poor reads, IMO.

[damo666]

I'll vote for Bozo or Percy

[rdrivera2005]

Lmao okay then. Don't know why you didn't do that 4 hours ago when we had time to read and find any ramifications.

##VOTE foodcoats

Because I thought it was probably better to hold and catch the NK or use it D2. But then you and Moscow tried to get a wagon going on me (and Damo, but he wants me to shoot and not a real wagon) and I thought Moscow was scummier then you.

[Vecna]

also Bo, putting that pressure there was really fucking retarded, I hope you know that.

townread gone

[e.m.c^42]

oh dear, missed it.

rip Moscow.

Well, at least rdr is clear.

[Foxcastle]

I just don't see Bozo as town.

This is the same as last game. He's getting mislynched to save scum.

[Foxcastle]

I just don't see Bozo as town.

This is the same as last game. He's getting mislynched to save scum.

BLEH. I meant I don't see Bozo as scum, obviously.

[bo_sox48]

It wasn't a pressure vote. He gave plenty of reason to disbelieve his claim.

[Nephthys]

Vote Count 1.(5?)

bozotheclown (4) worcej e.m.c^42 rdrivera2005 damo666
e.m.c^42 (3) Foxcastle EspressoPatronum xorxes
Percy Williams (2) dargorygel Vecna
brainbomb (1) flash2015
worcej (1) foodcoats
dargorygel (1) Vaporwave
damo666 (1) Jamiet99uk
EspressoPatronum (1) brainbomb
foodcoats (1) bo_sox48
bo_sox48 (1) Chaqa

People without a valid vote Percy Williams, bozotheclown, itshosuke

Bozo is set for extinction

25 mins remain in D1

[rdrivera2005]

nows thats once again proven how shit all y'alls reads are......

cab I tempt you with a Percy wagon?

Yrs, I can't lead anything today. As an excuse I am having a pretty bad day at work today.

[Vecna]

I just don't see Bozo as town.

This is the same as last game. He's getting mislynched to save scum.

bozo is town though

[bozotheclown]

I just don't see Bozo as town.

This is the same as last game. He's getting mislynched to save scum.

BLEH. I meant I don't see Bozo as scum, obviously.

You are right, it is just like last game.

[bo_sox48]

I understand, but disagree. The mafia can just fakeclaim the Vt roles, and roles that can't prove themselves yet (like the stick bug, which is a cop around turn four or something), so we're doing five coin flips, while the Mafia team now knows exactly who to kill to ensure that they are coin flip probabilities. This also redefines the game in a way I consider to be less fun, and I want future crazy setups like this.

That is incorrect, the mafia would be forced to claim the exact 5 roles they have available for fake claims. Also, mass claiming has no impact on future games.

Can someone explain fakeclaims for me? Maybe there's something I fundamentally don't understand about provided fakeclaim roles.
But unless they are Mechanically forced to only fakeclaim from their list, they could fake any role where there is no way to prove until you die, or any sort of information finder role, since they will know literally everything (unless we have incorrect claims which undermines the whole thing. Here is a list of Roles Mafia could 100% fake as (unless the rules say they must only claim their given fake role):
1. Sloth (No power until it dies)
2. Eagle (Immunity means nothing as mafia)
3. Albatross (A fake for this doesn't need to tell who they love, as that info let's Mafia double kill, and if they do tell the only way to test is to kill them)
4. Crayfish (They lived past day one, no more ways to test it)
5. Naked mole rat (I've always said anyone could be a naked Mole Rat)
6. Pangolin (See above)
7. Okapi (VT)
8. Tortoise ( You can just "not have anything used on you to absorb")
9.Anglerfish ( The oracle only has proof once dead, and the whole point is to only kill Mafia)
10.Stick Insect (You can name any role if everyone has revealed, and the Mafia could also name a fake Mafia role as the real deal for combined chaos)
11. Harpy Eagle (VT)

11/21 Town roles can EASILY be faked by Mafia. There are other roles that could also be faked fairly easily, but I only included ones that could be faked with little to no effort that have no way of being prematurely discovered until after the flip.

And to clarify on why I mentioned future games, this could be interpreted as going against the spirit of the game, or if it does throw the game to town, then we'd have to have more rules, or different set ups, or get told of by the Mods... THE LOVELY KIND MODS, WHO WE ALL APPRECIATE . I feel now isn't the time to act controversially.

But if I'm completely misunderstanding this, please tell me what a fakeclaim role actually is.

This does not seem like a conversation a scum player would want to have, honestly. You'd certainly not have it without having it with your teammates first.