Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[dargorygel]

My Percy vote at first was clearly a joke vote. Did no one else notice that he was blamed in the flavor for the end of civilization?

I get the policy votes. MF this morning seems reasonable, though.

I do think we need a non-policy option.

Presently, I am clearly not choosing the wine in front of me...

And Percy has seemed more and more questionable to me. In addition to what otehrs have brought up, he seems to be PR fishing... emphasizing clarification of those who have soft-claimed.

So I'll leave it there, for now.

I would also vote for Itshusoko, bozo, or foxy today.

[rdrivera2005]

##GM NOTE

Roles were randomly selected and allocated.

Oh. So there could be one Mason talking to themselves.

Obviously I'm not a Mason.

Itshosuke already claimed there are two Masons, so either really there are two town Masons or we have two scum faking it.

And as you are around, give me a reason to not shoot you.

[rdrivera2005]

My Percy vote at first was clearly a joke vote. Did no one else notice that he was blamed in the flavor for the end of civilization?

I get the policy votes. MF this morning seems reasonable, though.

I do think we need a non-policy option.

Presently, I am clearly not choosing the wine in front of me...

And Percy has seemed more and more questionable to me. In addition to what otehrs have brought up, he seems to be PR fishing... emphasizing clarification of those who have soft-claimed.

So I'll leave it there, for now.

I would also vote for Itshusoko, bozo, or foxy today.

Have you read the thread? Care to explain why itshosuke is on your list?

And as you are around, give me a reason to not shoot you.

[dargorygel]

Sure, rdr
His first post had a comment about the asian thing, which seemed ly-ish. That bumps people into scumlean for me.

Not sure that his claim clarification makes him not scum... still could be a newbie scum attempt to make a claim, in reaction (as he himself said) to to bozo's massclaim idea.

[damo666]

the bullet point for why hotsuke claim is fake is that he said he needed a TLDR, which a mason buddy easily coulda just provided in mason chat

could be solo

[damo666]

the bullet point for why hotsuke claim is fake is that he said he needed a TLDR, which a mason buddy easily coulda just provided in mason chat

See above.
He could be real but not have a real partner.

thats not true. if masons are in the game it has a QT and ots guaranteed to be both in the game

O brain it's RANDOM. So quite possible to have only one Mason.

[damo666]

uhm, the kiwi needs to verify that hotsukes claim is real asap or its not real

What if the kiwi is a fake claim Mafia role?

The masons work as a unit for the random selection, so they are either both town or there are no masons. (Ask the GMs if you don't believe it.)

Also, there could be a human even if there is no ant, because the human has some power that does not depend on the ant.

So if two people claim mason they're either both town or both mafia.

Were you told Masons work as a unit by a GM? This would seem to contradict the GM's post regarding randomness.

[Percy Williams]

My Percy vote at first was clearly a joke vote. Did no one else notice that he was blamed in the flavor for the end of civilization?

I get the policy votes. MF this morning seems reasonable, though.

I do think we need a non-policy option.

Presently, I am clearly not choosing the wine in front of me...

And Percy has seemed more and more questionable to me. In addition to what otehrs have brought up, he seems to be PR fishing... emphasizing clarification of those who have soft-claimed.

So I'll leave it there, for now.

I would also vote for Itshusoko, bozo, or foxy today.

I was asking specifically Bozo, because he was trying to paint a world where there are so many claims already, we might as well mass claim. I wanted him to list his four, because as we saw Vecna doesn't think he's claimed, I highly doubt Brainbomb has claimed a role, and probably posted enough to softclaim every role, which leaves us with one real hard claim and one real soft claim. I DO NOT want anyone to clarify what role they want to claim, or to call out soft claims, I just couldn't let Bozo misrepresent the data.

[Foxcastle]

Damo, as rdrivera has pointed out, the ItsHosuke has claimed that there is another mason.

[Vecna]

Given that I may not have another chance to post before EOD,

xorxes, we're bros this time! I was just thinking if I'll able to squeeze in more posts today

however, I came to mention a thing that never left my mind.

Why I think Vecna is not vig. He's an impatient type, he's his own man and likes to take risks, he basically couldn't wait for someone to claim in a previous game, he just couldn't hold his bullet inside the gun

What makes him have patience now? I think he's not a gunman, he probably would have shot Percy by now

most definitely

[damo666]

the bullet point for why hotsuke claim is fake is that he said he needed a TLDR, which a mason buddy easily coulda just provided in mason chat

My mason buddy did not post in the mason chat before I made the claim and I need a quick TLDR at that time

Have they posted in the QT since then?

[Vecna]

damo seems pretty not scummy. I cant believe vecna was serious here. had to just be trolling people

I was actually. damo is damn timid and not very genuine so far imo. deff a scum candidate. he can feel free to town it up and write some posts with full coherent sentences or thoughts

I will when there is something worth commenting on.

what a load of horseshit damo, theres plenty worth commenting on

[Foxcastle]

I get the policy votes. MF this morning seems reasonable, though.

I do think we need a non-policy option.

I think emc is still a good lynch based on how he's responded to the policy vote. And if he can't be bothered to find something to vote after 42 hours of game and 830+ posts, that just proves my point about why it's a good idea to lynch him until he starts actually helping town.

[bozotheclown]

Maybe this is obv, but it seems that bozo's relentless pursuit of a massclaim makes the most sense if he is the role-thief. One role already responded and claimed mason. And of course, if he DOES convince enough people, he finds a bunch of roles.

Sure, rdr
His first post had a comment about the asian thing, which seemed ly-ish. That bumps people into scumlean for me.

Not sure that his claim clarification makes him not scum... still could be a newbie scum attempt to make a claim, in reaction (as he himself said) to to bozo's massclaim idea.

In the first post it sounds like you blame me for Hosuke revealing his town role, but in the second post you say I might have managed to get Hosuke to fake claim as scum. This seems inconsistent.

[Vecna]

My Percy vote at first was clearly a joke vote. Did no one else notice that he was blamed in the flavor for the end of civilization?

I get the policy votes. MF this morning seems reasonable, though.

I do think we need a non-policy option.

Presently, I am clearly not choosing the wine in front of me...

And Percy has seemed more and more questionable to me. In addition to what otehrs have brought up, he seems to be PR fishing... emphasizing clarification of those who have soft-claimed.

So I'll leave it there, for now.

I would also vote for Itshusoko, bozo, or foxy today.

The distancing has begun

[bozotheclown]

My Percy vote at first was clearly a joke vote. Did no one else notice that he was blamed in the flavor for the end of civilization?

I get the policy votes. MF this morning seems reasonable, though.

I do think we need a non-policy option.

Presently, I am clearly not choosing the wine in front of me...

And Percy has seemed more and more questionable to me. In addition to what otehrs have brought up, he seems to be PR fishing... emphasizing clarification of those who have soft-claimed.

So I'll leave it there, for now.

I would also vote for Itshusoko, bozo, or foxy today.

I was asking specifically Bozo, because he was trying to paint a world where there are so many claims already, we might as well mass claim. I wanted him to list his four, because as we saw Vecna doesn't think he's claimed, I highly doubt Brainbomb has claimed a role, and probably posted enough to softclaim every role, which leaves us with one real hard claim and one real soft claim. I DO NOT want anyone to clarify what role they want to claim, or to call out soft claims, I just couldn't let Bozo misrepresent the data.

Did you miss my response where I listed the implied claims?

[dargorygel]

Maybe this is obv, but it seems that bozo's relentless pursuit of a massclaim makes the most sense if he is the role-thief. One role already responded and claimed mason. And of course, if he DOES convince enough people, he finds a bunch of roles.

Sure, rdr
His first post had a comment about the asian thing, which seemed ly-ish. That bumps people into scumlean for me.

Not sure that his claim clarification makes him not scum... still could be a newbie scum attempt to make a claim, in reaction (as he himself said) to to bozo's massclaim idea.

In the first post it sounds like you blame me for Hosuke revealing his town role, but in the second post you say I might have managed to get Hosuke to fake claim as scum. This seems inconsistent.

hmmm
I don't think it is... it's pointing out that your massclaim idea had effects. Whichever way Itshosuke flips.

[dargorygel]

I get the policy votes. MF this morning seems reasonable, though.

I do think we need a non-policy option.

I think emc is still a good lynch based on how he's responded to the policy vote. And if he can't be bothered to find something to vote after 42 hours of game and 830+ posts, that just proves my point about why it's a good idea to lynch him until he starts actually helping town.

I hear you, foxy. Day's not done.

[Vecna]

Maybe this is obv, but it seems that bozo's relentless pursuit of a massclaim makes the most sense if he is the role-thief. One role already responded and claimed mason. And of course, if he DOES convince enough people, he finds a bunch of roles.

Sure, rdr
His first post had a comment about the asian thing, which seemed ly-ish. That bumps people into scumlean for me.

Not sure that his claim clarification makes him not scum... still could be a newbie scum attempt to make a claim, in reaction (as he himself said) to to bozo's massclaim idea.

In the first post it sounds like you blame me for Hosuke revealing his town role, but in the second post you say I might have managed to get Hosuke to fake claim as scum. This seems inconsistent.

hmmm
I don't think it is... it's pointing out that your massclaim idea had effects. Whichever way Itshosuke flips.

how would it help the rolethief steal roles?

[Percy Williams]

Maybe this is obv, but it seems that bozo's relentless pursuit of a massclaim makes the most sense if he is the role-thief. One role already responded and claimed mason. And of course, if he DOES convince enough people, he finds a bunch of roles.

Sure, rdr
His first post had a comment about the asian thing, which seemed ly-ish. That bumps people into scumlean for me.

Not sure that his claim clarification makes him not scum... still could be a newbie scum attempt to make a claim, in reaction (as he himself said) to to bozo's massclaim idea.

In the first post it sounds like you blame me for Hosuke revealing his town role, but in the second post you say I might have managed to get Hosuke to fake claim as scum. This seems inconsistent.

Whether Itshosuke is scum or not, your mass claim push is the reason Itshosuke claimed that role. This doesn't make you scum or not but is a point in Dario's favour. It shows he has a dynamic view of the game in a way that only Town really can, Dang it! I just scrolled down to that little preview thing where it shows you the last so many posts, and Dargo beat me to it. I'm just gonna post this as is.