Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[Percy Williams]

ANY OTHER HINTS YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE THE SCUM TEAM?

Really Fox?

I just find it too ironic that Percy responds to Tom's very sensible admonition against PR hunting with ideas for PR hunting.

@Foxcastle, I know it looks like I'm publicly Pr hunting but I'm not. I would explain what I'm doing to actually confuse the Scum team, but that would obviously ruin it, and give scum a lot of helpful information. After the game I'd be happy to explain myself( Or if all Prs die).

[Durga]

I stil also can't shake my TrPrado heebee jeebees.

He said something really weird on d2 and it set off like 20 alarm bells.

[ChippeRock]

Detailed reads are easy to fake.

Look for motivation behind posts. Look for reaction.

What do you make of her hard core trying to save EP? Would scum do that? Would town do that? NAI?

I really don't understand how she can be like "See, I'm right! You're an idiot!" when she flip flopped 4 fucking times between the two. At least I ISOed both of them so I could make a vote. How can someone have that kind of confidence about a vote they flip flopped 4 times over. I just can't understand the brainless stupidity.

Not only that, but how does no one understand the logic of the judge? We were losing badly goddammit! If all of the strong town reads were eliminated, there was about a 75% chance that by randomly selecting two lynch candidates at least one of them would be scum. That's a damn good gamble to make.

[ChippeRock]

Don't waste your time Tom

Just like you didn't waste your time making damn detailed reads! Or explaining any of your 4 flip flops between EP and et! You've piggybacked off of other people's ideas this whole damn game! You've provided nothing to this game, and you're playing really safe. Scummy as hell.

[Tom Bombadil]

this is not productive.

I suggest you focus elsewhere. I'm very quite confident she is town, and I think your anger is clouding your judgement on it. For example, you say it is brainless stupidity that she correctly read EP.

Lets move on as this is not helpful. You've made your read clear.

[damo666]

I don't think Chipee is a good wagon tomorrow.

Best discussed after night phase I guess when things should be clearer. I trust Bozo though.

[Durga]

I hardclaim judge. Please leave me alone

[Tom Bombadil]

Last point. What is the scum motivation for flip flopping 4 times?

[ChippeRock]

this is not productive.

I suggest you focus elsewhere. I'm very quite confident she is town, and I think your anger is clouding your judgement on it. For example, you say it is brainless stupidity that she correctly read EP.

Lets move on as this is not helpful. You've made your read clear.

No, I called it brainless stupidity to flip flop between the two 4 fucking times and than act super obnoxious & cocky when you chose the one that wasn't flipped to reveal town.

[ChippeRock]

I hardclaim judge. Please leave me alone

Make some reads! How can you get away with no reads for 5 days straight! You've provided almost no new ideas to this game.

[ChippeRock]

Last point. What is the scum motivation for flip flopping 4 times?

To make it appear like she was having a tough time to decide between the two candidates so when she *finally* settled on someone, she wouldn't be held accountable for her misread on the wrong person (since it was Town v. Town).

[Tom Bombadil]

Last point. What is the scum motivation for flip flopping 4 times?

To make it appear like she was having a tough time to decide between the two candidates so when she *finally* settled on someone, she wouldn't be held accountable for her misread on the wrong person (since it was Town v. Town).

Why haven't you wondered the same thing about me or Balki? We both flip flopped, at least mentally for Balki - and with my vote for me. Do you townread us?

It seems like you are trying to set up a lynch rather than solve the game.

[Percy Williams]

ET was being noob town. I just can't see noob scum acting the way he did.

K, glad you can't see it and obviously your opinion means so much to me /sarcasm u have now gotten two town players (Bozo/Espresso) lynched.

Against two other town players. Says the Einstein who read Cruuader as "obvious noob scum"...

Actually E.M.C^42 isn't in this game.

[ChippeRock]

Last point. What is the scum motivation for flip flopping 4 times?

To make it appear like she was having a tough time to decide between the two candidates so when she *finally* settled on someone, she wouldn't be held accountable for her misread on the wrong person (since it was Town v. Town).

Why haven't you wondered the same thing about me or Balki? We both flip flopped, at least mentally for Balki - and with my vote for me. Do you townread us?

It seems like you are trying to set up a lynch rather than solve the game.

Was this the first time I expressed a scum read on Durga? Do you think flip flopping was my only criteria for scum? No. She has produced no reads for this game (which she claimed in Day 1 that she doesn't do reads on Day 1), all of her thoughts piggyback others' thoughts, she doesn't clearly explain all of her non-policy lynch votes, she's acting like an emotional player when it's ridiculous that an experienced Mafia player would just pout to that extent, and she is posting high volume and no content. It's just fucking unbelievable she's been written off as town and no one's ISOed her.

If she disagrees with my vote on EP, she should destroy the points I made in my detailed analysis.

And if you think I'm not trying to solve the game, than please ISO me - everyone, please do. Try not tunneling and I won't have serious issues with your arguments.

Can someone please bother to read my detailed analysis on why I though Espresso was scummier than et? Critique it please.

[Tom Bombadil]

Percy is suspect af btw.

I really dislike going from "So, I finally caught up, and am writing a questions list, but don't want to share it until day 2, to prevent The scum team from choosing a better NK. To clarify, if my questions end up making a town look scummy (because I haven't really made wonderful questions in any past games yet) then posting the questions now could make the scum team not lynch that person."

to

"'m only on page 105 in my catch up so far, but I promised questions:
1. Did Trprado's analysis on you and the accompanying questions make sense? or were there a lot of false assumptions in it?
2.Who all is using new reading methods? If you are, please share if it doesn't ruin the method.
3. Has anyone been posting full reads lists (Besides TrPrado)? I feel like we should do that..."


To me this implies that when he wrote the first thing, he in fact did not have any questions, but that saying so would appease somebody. And then the questions seemingly have no purpose.

Also, don't like how distanced he was about these two wagons

[ChippeRock]

If anybody votes for me, I would like to see an ISO explaining the vote. That way everyone can understand your logic and decide for themselves whether it holds water or not.

[Tom Bombadil]

What I'm getting at is that Durga has never made a reads post that you are requesting probably in the history of her time playing mafia. I think it is a mistake to base a scumread on that.

Regarding EP, I've expressed why I think the basis of assuming his claim was to out a PR was wrong.

What are your thoughts on Percy?

[ChippeRock]

Percy is suspect af btw.

I really dislike going from "So, I finally caught up, and am writing a questions list, but don't want to share it until day 2, to prevent The scum team from choosing a better NK. To clarify, if my questions end up making a town look scummy (because I haven't really made wonderful questions in any past games yet) then posting the questions now could make the scum team not lynch that person."

to

"'m only on page 105 in my catch up so far, but I promised questions:
1. Did Trprado's analysis on you and the accompanying questions make sense? or were there a lot of false assumptions in it?
2.Who all is using new reading methods? If you are, please share if it doesn't ruin the method.
3. Has anyone been posting full reads lists (Besides TrPrado)? I feel like we should do that..."


To me this implies that when he wrote the first thing, he in fact did not have any questions, but that saying so would appease somebody. And then the questions seemingly have no purpose.

Also, don't like how distanced he was about these two wagons

#2 isn't even a real question meant to solve this game in my opinion. These don't feel like good questions that would of affected the NK.

[ChippeRock]

What I'm getting at is that Durga has never made a reads post that you are requesting probably in the history of her time playing mafia. I think it is a mistake to base a scumread on that.

Regarding EP, I've expressed why I think the basis of assuming his claim was to out a PR was wrong.

What are your thoughts on Percy?

I just want a detailed read on somebody. Anybody for god's sake. She has done none of that.

[Durga]

I don't make large winded reads lists because I think it's a waste of space. I have tons of actual reads on players. I just called Tom town, that is a read. I just said Balki is officially sus. That is a read. I think xorxes is mafia because he usually doesn't lurk like this. That is a read.

Chippe doesn't really understand mafia, and he doesn't understand what contributing is like, nor does he understand what pushing town discussion is like. I don't expect him to understand my play style, because frankly, he doesn't really understand anything.