Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[et]

Whats the change?

I know peter was Mafia now.
Now these remain in that list.
2 damo-Fox-ND
3 damo-Connor-Fox
4 damo-Connor-ND

I am rethinking about these.
Especially about Fox.
I will reread Fox afterward.
If Fox is mafia, mafia could kill Nephthys?
And in that case, who are his mate?

FoxCastle, damo, Squiggs

I don't think so.
Because Squigs is not BA clearly and hard to lynch.
BA is possible to NK Squigs.
If Fox is lynched and Squigs is NK'd, mafia can't win.

[Squigs44]

Whats the change?

I know peter was Mafia now.
Now these remain in that list.
2 damo-Fox-ND
3 damo-Connor-Fox
4 damo-Connor-ND

I am rethinking about these.
Especially about Fox.
I will reread Fox afterward.
If Fox is mafia, mafia could kill Nephthys?
And in that case, who are his mate?

FoxCastle, damo, Squiggs

Oh good, we agree on 2 out of 3 mafia.

[FlaviusAetius]

Also, I took a break earlier from the game, so Im more calm now, Im not really sorry for being like that though since I think it was warranted and Im not taking anything back, and I still think FoxCastle is scum every known towns person thinks hes scum ie; Carl, TrPrado, rdrivera, Espresso
Tom said he's coming around on him since his Day 1, but still wasnt sure
Darg never really said anything about him
Bozo never really said anything about him

If we look at everyone who Fox has voted for;
On Day 1
Me almost 7 hours before EoD he was even on near EoD(i think even 8 mintues before EoD) and said he would change if convinced, and never was to change to TrPrado

He votes MoscowFleet despite being obvious lurker(why is he going lurker on Day 2)?
He also now goes TrPrado on Day 2, great timing

And he stays on Espresso the entire day

That's mighty biased on Fox's end mr. Percy, scum partner?

Lets add teacon onto the list of CHANGED, FoxCastle's shannigans of Day 4 tricked him, but without his fabulous input, teacon scumread him

Nepthys scumread FoxCastle

EVERY. SINGLE. DEAD. TOWNS. PERSON. SCUMREAD. FOXCASTLE.
except for teacon in the end[not the beginning!]

[FlaviusAetius]

I know peter was Mafia now.
Now these remain in that list.
2 damo-Fox-ND
3 damo-Connor-Fox
4 damo-Connor-ND

I am rethinking about these.
Especially about Fox.
I will reread Fox afterward.
If Fox is mafia, mafia could kill Nephthys?
And in that case, who are his mate?

FoxCastle, damo, Squiggs

Oh good, we agree on 2 out of 3 mafia.

So then why in the world did you not vote FoxCastle yesterday, it just doesnt make sense

[Squigs44]

Flav I'm sorry but its hard to know where to start with responding to your posts. Your all caps and repetition is tiring to read and lowers any credibility you have. Also, when responding to things, you misinterpret a lot of things that other people say.

So I am just going to ask you, are there any specific, intelligent, well worded questions you have for me? That way I don't have to re-read and try to sort out what is worth answering or not.

[FlaviusAetius]

Flav I'm sorry but its hard to know where to start with responding to your posts. Your all caps and repetition is tiring to read and lowers any credibility you have. Also, when responding to things, you misinterpret a lot of things that other people say.

So I am just going to ask you, are there any specific, intelligent, well worded questions you have for me? That way I don't have to re-read and try to sort out what is worth answering or not.

Ok I am sorry I guess the main question I have for you is;
Why didn't you vote for FoxCastle yesterday?
Were spreadsheets really that import to him?

[Durga]

This is Chippe disagreeing with Durga just to disagree with her, not because it's actually a good idea.
Durga please don't die. Why did you have to claim? Look at the list of players I'm left with after you're dead. Lurkers and unpleasants. Oh, and I guess Fox is still here.

Hey I might not die. Maybe the scum team thinks I'm really dumb or something. Maybe Chippe is right :)

Your not, and he's wrong, stop listening to him, sometimes your a bit rude but that doesnt mean your not smart

Aw thanks babe

[et]

And I realized now, thanks to Flav.
Connor is not BA clearly to.
So, I think I can say Fox/Connor.

[Squigs44]

FoxCastle, damo, Squiggs

Oh good, we agree on 2 out of 3 mafia.

So then why in the world did you not vote FoxCastle yesterday, it just doesnt make sense

I stated several times that I scumread both of them. I would have been fine lynching either of them yesterday. I moved back and forth between the wagons to see if there would be any additional movement in any sort of attempt to save one of them.

In the end, Fox voted himself, gave a readslist, and we saw that Fox actually was doing work to try to solve the game it was just behind the scenes in the form of a spreadsheet. Teacon had scum equity with Balki/Xorxes, his play near EoD was more frantic, his push on Durga seemed desperate, and the real kicker was that his readslist at the end was awful.
So when Durga, our townclear said she wanted teacon dead, combined with the stuff above, I thought that teacon would be slighly more likely to flip as scum and I voted there.

What did we learn? ND flipped from Fox to teacon on the basis of the spreadsheet which seems out of character to me. Combine that with his interactions with Xorxes, and ND's scum equity goes up for me.

Fox, damo, ND - scumteam, locking it in.
Bonus points if Flav is BA.

[Squigs44]

Flav I'm sorry but its hard to know where to start with responding to your posts. Your all caps and repetition is tiring to read and lowers any credibility you have. Also, when responding to things, you misinterpret a lot of things that other people say.

So I am just going to ask you, are there any specific, intelligent, well worded questions you have for me? That way I don't have to re-read and try to sort out what is worth answering or not.

Ok I am sorry I guess the main question I have for you is;
Why didn't you vote for FoxCastle yesterday?
Were spreadsheets really that import to him?

I kinda answered that in my last post, but to clarify via the spreadsheets:

Yes, his spreadsheet was town-indicative to me.
However...

I blew it a bit out of proportion at first to see what would happen. Who would push back on me and call me out on it? Who would take that idea and run with it? Who would sheep me onto teacon?
Ultimately, the only thing of interest that happened was ND using the spreadsheet as a way of switching his vote to teacon.

[FlaviusAetius]

So I guess I should of defended teacon not go after FoxCastle at the end...
So, whats going on with ND, he made some pretty good ISOs why is he on your scumteam now? Over someone like Percy?

[FlaviusAetius]

Flav I'm sorry but its hard to know where to start with responding to your posts. Your all caps and repetition is tiring to read and lowers any credibility you have. Also, when responding to things, you misinterpret a lot of things that other people say.

So I am just going to ask you, are there any specific, intelligent, well worded questions you have for me? That way I don't have to re-read and try to sort out what is worth answering or not.

Ok I am sorry I guess the main question I have for you is;
Why didn't you vote for FoxCastle yesterday?
Were spreadsheets really that import to him?

I kinda answered that in my last post, but to clarify via the spreadsheets:

Yes, his spreadsheet was town-indicative to me.
However...

I blew it a bit out of proportion at first to see what would happen. Who would push back on me and call me out on it? Who would take that idea and run with it? Who would sheep me onto teacon?
Ultimately, the only thing of interest that happened was ND using the spreadsheet as a way of switching his vote to teacon.

Ok but one switch due to a spreadsheet shouldnt be literally the only reason why you scumread someone

[Foxcastle]

What a monument to his enormous idiocy Flavius is building

[ChippeRock]

Okay, I don't like this early full wagon on damo.

Though I can't understand damo's actions - he's probably scum, but perhaps he's idiot town - but either damo's scum buddies are completely bussing him or damo is legitimately town.

But I want to find out which of those it is, and while I think damo is the scummiest out of everyone, having such a lopsided early vote isn't going to bring us any information from the votes and vote flips.

So, for now, I will ##VOTE connorcompton. We'll see what happens, but competitive wagons brings town more information than an easy wagon.

[ChippeRock]

Okay, I don't like this early full wagon on damo.

Though I can't understand damo's actions - he's probably scum, but perhaps he's idiot town - but either damo's scum buddies are completely bussing him or damo is legitimately town.

But I want to find out which of those it is, and while I think damo is the scummiest out of everyone, having such a lopsided early vote isn't going to bring us any information from the votes and vote flips.

So, for now, I will ##VOTE connorcompton. We'll see what happens, but competitive wagons brings town more information than an easy wagon.

Additionally, people aren't posting at the same rates they typically do when there isn't such an easy wagon - hopefully people will start talking so that god damn Flav isn't the one making 40% of the posts today...

[ND]

Eh, that's dumb Squigs, but whatever. Your wrong about me.

[ND]

after 306 pages I am a little exhausted. It's a novel to re-read this.

[ND]

And I don't really understand what he's talking about with my interactions with Xorxes. I voted the f***er. It's just stupid. An exercise in making a square peg fit in a round hole. I've seen it before you can't fix stupid and unfortunately I do townread Squigs heavily. So idk, it is what it is I guess.

[Squigs44]

So I guess I should of defended teacon not go after FoxCastle at the end...
So, whats going on with ND, he made some pretty good ISOs why is he on your scumteam now? Over someone like Percy?

He was on my scumteam before the switch:

Players in my POE:
FlaviusAetius
FoxCastle
Xorxes
Percy
et
teacon
ND
damo
peter
connor

We need 6/10 for the full scumteam.

Does teacon, Xorxes, ND, connor, peter, damo make sense?

et doesn't fit with ND, the Percy/Xorxes interaction is strange, and Flav and Fox have had so many people pushing on them that it is simplest if they are both town. Out of Flav/Fox, Flav is more likely scum imo, he could replace connor/peter/damo possibly.

Thinking through full teams, it is hard to put a team together without teacon on the team, so I would be willing to lynch him if things went that way. The Percy/Xorxes interaction is giving me a lot of hesitation on both of them.

My scum team was teacon, ND, damo, but after today... I need to reconsider.

I'll crunch the numbers in a bit, but we should be able to afford to kill BA now

[ND]

Squigs being suspicious or scumreading me isn't new. As he just posted it's been something he has softed for a while. If there was something to respond too or comment on I would, but there isn't. It's stupid and wrong, but like I just said above you can't really fix a stupid person.