M1007 — "Mafia, She Wrote" Game Thread

[Percy Williams]

Third party does look like fun. I don't think I've ever done it.

That said, I don't think town/scum are the same at all. Seems to me like there's massive differences in playstyle and objective, don't you? Accounting for a real preference for 3rd party... Why dodge the question?

heh this wasn't even supposed to be a deep question

So a friendly amendment to what I asked: Of these two options: a) Town b) Scum ... which do you prefer to play as, and why?

Honestly? Both are quite fun for me, since the objective is the same: pretend I know shit going on, and avoid dying xD
and it’s fun to devil’s advocate other people’s reads.
(this isn’t avoiding the question intentionally lol)

Let's break this down:

Honestly?

A wise woman told me a story once about the word "honestly." She said that if a guy comes to you and tells you to believe him, because "honestly!" or "really, i mean it this time" or "let me be straight with you." ...you have to be careful. Because they're either lying right there and feel the need for extra persuasion, OR they're usually lying, and feel the need to add a little extra persuasion when they actually do tell the truth.

Both are quite fun for me, since the objective is the same: pretend I know shit going on, and avoid dying xD
and it’s fun to devil’s advocate other people’s reads.

The objective is manifestly NOT the same between town and scum.
Town doesn't know what's going on, and is trying to figure it out. Scum DOES know what's going on, and is trying to pretend they don't know. Town wants to solve, scum wants to live + NK + ML their way to victory.

(this isn’t avoiding the question intentionally lol)

Well then you're unintentionally avoiding the question. Which is functionally the same. Xorx put it well - no one is perfectly bisexual / ambivalent about preferred alignment.

Why would that matter?
1) As town, you have no reason not to pick a side here.
1.a If you're town and like town, you're comfortable saying "I like being town" and that's it.
1.b If you're town and like playing scum, you're a bit uncomfortable saying it, but there's no real reason not to. Newbie town tends to try to nerviously self-preserve, but I get the sense that you've played (and GM'd) often enough that you don't deserve a newbie pass on this.
2) As scum, you'd have every subconscious reason to hedge on this question:
2.a If you're scum and say "I like playing scum" ... you feel a bit exposed because you implied you might be scum, so it's risky.
2.b If you're scum and say "I like playing town" ... you feel like you're lying a bit, because you're currently not playing as town.

So: this is maybe nitpicking, but also could indicate nervous scum tics, so...

Why so hesitant to commit to answering the question?
Why not jump on ND?

Teacon, I can't tell how rusty he actually is, but he comes off as experienced enough to know what's going on - so he's null. Completely unrelated to alignment feelings, but his style so far is one I like.

Thanks! :) The above post is nothing personal, understand, but i'd be remiss if i ignored the gut intuitions outlined above. Thanks for your time and answers...

I respectfully disagree with your "no one is completely Bisexual " statement, sometimes, you just don't care. At all. I feel like Teacon never went to an educational institution, generally there's something there that makes you discover there are things you can't be buggered about. And some forces are equal.

[Durga]

I actually laughed at that bcoz I just knew she would jump on me. Every game. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. She just votes for me. If I actually do survive this phase (doubt it) she will end probably every phase on me. Straight up fact.

Am I rite or what Derpna?

I think you're mixing me up with Tom Bombadil

[ND]

Tea cup is a very smart man. He is an educator as I am. We educate the children of tomorrow.

[Percy Williams]

I'll

...you gonna finish that thought?

Be coming around the mountains when I come

[ND]

I actually laughed at that bcoz I just knew she would jump on me. Every game. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. She just votes for me. If I actually do survive this phase (doubt it) she will end probably every phase on me. Straight up fact.

Am I rite or what Derpna?

I think you're mixing me up with Tom Bombadil

Nah, he is a sadist though.

[ND]

Tom is like a one hit wonder. He strikes it out the ballpark once, makes a name for himself, then fades into the obscurity and void of dankness.

[Durga]

Last time ND went full Trump he was scum. The time after that he was town, and I was able to immediately catch it.

ND, remember when I saw you were town, the game where ghug bozo and rd were scum? Please stop this nonsense. It's annoying.

[ND]

Last time ND went full Trump he was scum. The time after that he was town, and I was able to immediately catch it.

ND, remember when I saw you were town, the game where ghug bozo and rd were scum? Please stop this nonsense. It's annoying.

I am the Kool Aid Man. And I love Fruit Punch.

[ND]

but seriously if you think I talk anything like Mr. President Trump or am doing a "Trump" then you are a total fruit cake dude lol.

[ND]

IF anything I am the Sensei this game needs. Maybe not the one this game deserves, but the one it needs. Bcoz you all are lost in that roman wilderness of pain. Ooohhh

[MoscowFleet]

Last time ND went full Trump he was scum. The time after that he was town, and I was able to immediately catch it.

ND, remember when I saw you were town, the game where ghug bozo and rd were scum? Please stop this nonsense. It's annoying.

I’m confused. Do you think ND is scum? Or do you think he’s annoying town and are thus asking him to stop?

[ND]

Last time ND went full Trump he was scum. The time after that he was town, and I was able to immediately catch it.

ND, remember when I saw you were town, the game where ghug bozo and rd were scum? Please stop this nonsense. It's annoying.

I’m confused. Do you think ND is scum? Or do you think he’s annoying town and are thus asking him to stop?

She doesn't read the game. She just pops on looks for a post I make and says something snide. There is no point in engaging Derpna in conversation. She exits after she gets her jollies off.

[MoscowFleet]

I feel like Teacon never went to an educational institution

Homie. He’s a fucking teacher.

[MoscowFleet]

Last time ND went full Trump he was scum. The time after that he was town, and I was able to immediately catch it.

ND, remember when I saw you were town, the game where ghug bozo and rd were scum? Please stop this nonsense. It's annoying.

I’m confused. Do you think ND is scum? Or do you think he’s annoying town and are thus asking him to stop?

She doesn't read the game. She just pops on looks for a post I make and says something snide. There is no point in engaging Derpna in conversation. She exits after she gets her jollies off.

Although I agree with your assessment of Durga’s playstyle, unfortunately it doesn’t say much about her alignment. She was almost exactly the same last game.

[ND]

Big truth right there although I didn't read the last game didn't play in it. I know how she plays and this is it.

[Durga]

I’m confused. Do you think ND is scum? Or do you think he’s annoying town and are thus asking him to stop?

She doesn't read the game. She just pops on looks for a post I make and says something snide. There is no point in engaging Derpna in conversation. She exits after she gets her jollies off.

Although I agree with your assessment of Durga’s playstyle, unfortunately it doesn’t say much about her alignment. She was almost exactly the same last game.

This is really bold coming from someone who gets modkilled like 70% of the time.

If I'm exactly the same as the last game, doesn't that indicate to you that I'm town?

Anyway, I'm pretty sure he's scum - but on the chance he's not, yes. I'm asking him to stop this ridiculous caricature.

[Durga]

Let's see, Durga-ND interaction seems like their usual interaction. Either one or both can easily fake it, so I don't really get anything from that.

emc-Vapor... Hmm.. Seems more unlikely both are scum together. Not sure.

Anything in particular from that page that caught your attention?

I agree with you on all counts here. I'm currently waiting to see whether emc would join me on ND. So far, he's been on but hasn't answered me.

@emc - is ND's play pro-town right now? Would you lynch ND today? Why or why not?

I wouldn't lynch him on the first day, no, since he's obviously baiting for something - if not attention for the lynch then attention for the reads or responses from people. It seems more prudent to see what that exactly is for, before just killing him, no?

(In addition, he took my fun style niche, so I want to see what he does with it)

As for whether he's pro-town or not, I say that would depend on who you are. For me personally, it seems as there is thought behind what he's been saying (unlike Durga's claim), and the capricious rambling is somewhat easier to follow than a more serious post - so not anti-town. For others, who find him spewing random spam...

what's the "thought" ?

[ND]

Annnndddd there we go BOYS the old OH I play the same last game so I am the same this game stick we've all seen that before. Nice try Derpna but no one is buying that shit.

[Durga]

it wouldn't be effective to spoil the plan

i don't know why but this reads town to me?

[ND]

I agree with you on all counts here. I'm currently waiting to see whether emc would join me on ND. So far, he's been on but hasn't answered me.

@emc - is ND's play pro-town right now? Would you lynch ND today? Why or why not?

I wouldn't lynch him on the first day, no, since he's obviously baiting for something - if not attention for the lynch then attention for the reads or responses from people. It seems more prudent to see what that exactly is for, before just killing him, no?

(In addition, he took my fun style niche, so I want to see what he does with it)

As for whether he's pro-town or not, I say that would depend on who you are. For me personally, it seems as there is thought behind what he's been saying (unlike Durga's claim), and the capricious rambling is somewhat easier to follow than a more serious post - so not anti-town. For others, who find him spewing random spam...

what's the "thought" ?

u wouldn't get it derpna. You aren't a high IQ individual and clearly do not read the game and have no interest in doing so. It's beyond me why you waste your time playing these games. We are all tired of the same old snide and sadistic playstyle. It's awful. Please stop for the love of Mr. President Trump our lord and savior.