MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[e.m.c^42]

and Vapor, I did keep a log last game narrowing down time zones/who browses hidden from posting + active browsing times lol
think I also peterbotted the old games and searched for people mentioning time zones/location, as well as work schedule

but haven't had the time to correlate any of it with alignment XD

No MS paint?

Consider me...

no, it's what some people would consider creepy and I respect people's privacy too much to post that info

[Jamiet99uk]

Scumreads so far:

RagingIke
Bo_Sox
Damo666
Ezio
Brainbomb

What is it about Damo (apart from his fluffing) and bo (apart from being mia)?

Damo has been regularly sheeping people, including me. When the bot is up, look at all his vote moves. It's like as soon as a wagon gains any movement, Damo joins it.

[ND]

VC3
Damo666 (3):. Worcej, vecna, Ezio
Dargorygel (2): vapor, thamrick
RagingIke (2):. Rd, Jamiet
Ezio (2):. Damo, Percy
Jamiet (1): Squigs
EMC(1): LordQuas
Bo(1): Moscow

Damo is set to be lynched
Five hours and five mins remain

[Jamiet99uk]

19 player game and only 12 have voted so far. Hum.

[e.m.c^42]

19 player game and only 12 have voted so far. Hum.

well, considering how quiet a lot of people have been so far xD

darg moscow neph bo - almost entirely gone

ezio percy - only a little bit better than the above

xorxes hasn't been active since early day 1
damo as well

bozo got a bit better recently, but yeah

even you to some point lol

[damo666]

I'mma ##Vote Damo.

Guys I'm not withdrawing my Alien claim. I'm pretty sure this is my best way to win this game. I'mma do my best do help y'all out and if scum look like they're gonna win maybe you guys can throw to me eh?

Mafiso eh?

[damo666]

Scumreads so far:

RagingIke
Bo_Sox
Damo666
Ezio
Brainbomb

What is it about Damo (apart from his fluffing) and bo (apart from being mia)?

Damo has been regularly sheeping people, including me. When the bot is up, look at all his vote moves. It's like as soon as a wagon gains any movement, Damo joins it.

Insufficient data

[bozotheclown]

Guess ill just have to prove you wrong again.

So what wagon do you want?

Squigs, Jamie, Percy Williams, worcej, dargorygel, bo_sox would all be OK.

Can you explain the last 4 to me?

I found it suspicious how worcej pointed out a couple of times that his alien plan was his day 1 contribution. The other three I think have a higher than average chance of being scum by POE.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'mma ##Vote Damo.

Guys I'm not withdrawing my Alien claim. I'm pretty sure this is my best way to win this game. I'mma do my best do help y'all out and if scum look like they're gonna win maybe you guys can throw to me eh?

##VOTE EZIO

He's hardclaiming Alien whilst a viable wagon. Applying Occam's razor the simplest and most likely conclusion is that he really is the alien and he is using a dumb strategy which he now can't get out of. Lynch him.

[Jamiet99uk]

On day 1 I think it is as good as anything else to base a read on. I do not like Vecna's lynch pool because I think they are all more likely town.

Guess ill just have to prove you wrong again.

So what wagon do you want?

Squigs, Jamie, Percy Williams, worcej, dargorygel, bo_sox would all be OK.

You scumread me why?

[dargorygel]

##call Gm... (sorry ND)
I voted for ezio
And his reinforced claim makes me want to stick it there.
HIs votes get more power as the game progresses. I don't want ezio to be able to pull anyone else's vote.
D1 we have only meta-guesses for voting. Which is why ezio usually starts clamoring for a No Lynch at some point.
We can shut down the third party right now.
This will make the rest of the game simply, imo.

Why the bo-hate? I mean, besides the usual... He announced beforehand he wasn't going to be present today. If he continues to lurk after that, we can consider him. But bo as a policy lynch doesn't make much sense.

And I have one skeptical eyebrow raised at anyone who has bo on their scum-team list. He has done nothing scum

[Jamiet99uk]

Why the bo-hate? I mean, besides the usual... He announced beforehand he wasn't going to be present today. If he continues to lurk after that, we can consider him. But bo as a policy lynch doesn't make much sense.

And I have one skeptical eyebrow raised at anyone who has bo on their scum-team list. He has done nothing scum

But he has been present. He's logged in and posted "hi" and other content free stuff. Even if he couldn't be here much, he has been able to post several times, and has therefore chosen not to contribute.

[thamrick]

##call Gm... (sorry ND)
I voted for ezio
And his reinforced claim makes me want to stick it there.
HIs votes get more power as the game progresses. I don't want ezio to be able to pull anyone else's vote.
D1 we have only meta-guesses for voting. Which is why ezio usually starts clamoring for a No Lynch at some point.
We can shut down the third party right now.
This will make the rest of the game simply, imo.

Why the bo-hate? I mean, besides the usual... He announced beforehand he wasn't going to be present today. If he continues to lurk after that, we can consider him. But bo as a policy lynch doesn't make much sense.

And I have one skeptical eyebrow raised at anyone who has bo on their scum-team list. He has done nothing s̶c̶u̶m̶

Ftfy

[bozotheclown]

Guess ill just have to prove you wrong again.

So what wagon do you want?

Squigs, Jamie, Percy Williams, worcej, dargorygel, bo_sox would all be OK.

You scumread me why?

I do not have a read on you either way yet, but there are enough players coming across as town that I would be OK with you as a wagon.

[Jamiet99uk]

Squigs, Jamie, Percy Williams, worcej, dargorygel, bo_sox would all be OK.

You scumread me why?

I do not have a read on you either way yet, but there are enough players coming across as town that I would be OK with you as a wagon.

Lynching your nullreads..... not a great policy.

[Nephthys]

#vote Ike

[Squigs44]

The more I think about it, I'm quite sure RagingIke is actually scum.

Look how cool and calm Ike was when he was the lead wagon earlier today. Ike is an experienced player. He knows that early D1 pressure or policy wagons rarely last the distance. When he was lead wagon he did nothing to defend himself, he openly broke the rules and allowed attention to be drawn to this, and acted calm and jokey and flippant, not seeming to feel under any pressure.

Scumteams often employ one of their number in the role of noisy, distracting, attention seeker. This fills the thread up with noise and allows the other scum to lurk or keep their distance.

##Vote RagingIke

I know Ike. I've been on Ike's team. I've co-GMed with Ike. Ike enjoys being scum. Ike is calm and happy as scum.

This is scum Ike, folks. Lynch him with me and get town off to the right start.

Lol, wut? You don't think town Ike would draw attention to himself? You don't think Ike would be calm and collected as town? Like, yeah, he could be scum trying to distract, but this read seems like you trying to justify a vote on Ike rather than actual solving.

[Squigs44]

The more I think about it, I'm quite sure RagingIke is actually scum.

Look how cool and calm Ike was when he was the lead wagon earlier today. Ike is an experienced player. He knows that early D1 pressure or policy wagons rarely last the distance. When he was lead wagon he did nothing to defend himself, he openly broke the rules and allowed attention to be drawn to this, and acted calm and jokey and flippant, not seeming to feel under any pressure.

Scumteams often employ one of their number in the role of noisy, distracting, attention seeker. This fills the thread up with noise and allows the other scum to lurk or keep their distance.

##Vote RagingIke

I know Ike. I've been on Ike's team. I've co-GMed with Ike. Ike enjoys being scum. Ike is calm and happy as scum.

This is scum Ike, folks. Lynch him with me and get town off to the right start.

This is not the type of posts that scum Jamiet makes, is it? Pretty sure he's not this expressive and detailed with his reasoning for why he scumreads people. I sure dont remember him producing stuff that resonates so well with my own feelings on people their playstyle, although maybe thats a stronger argument if its based on gut feelings than meta analysis.

And then Vecna agrees with it...

Never have I disagreed with Jamie or Vecna so much.

Vecna, do you actually believe that Ike's play in drawing attention and being calm and collected is scummy?

[Squigs44]

why is bozo referring to itself in the third person?

bozo, since you're here;

apologies, but was the AI thing a joke or an actual thing XD

I can't remember if I was playing along or not yesterday, and it'd be nice to have clarification to whether they're actual reads or not lol

What does this mean?

[ND]

VC4

I have the following:

Ezio(4):. Damo, Percy, Darg, Jamiet
Damo(3):. Worcej, vecna, Ezio
Dargorygel(2): vapor, thamrick
RagingIke(2): Rd, nephthys
Jamiet(1): Squigs
EMC(1): LordQuas
Bo(1): Moscow

Please let me know if you see an error.

Ezio is set to be lynched. Four hours and ten minutes remain.