MINI MAFIA IV GAME THREAD

[Nephthys]

why is jamie only scum if im scum.

To answer for bozo; assuming I've read this right. It's based purely on your interactions with Jamie that links the two of you as opposed to you being an outright scum-read?

I think a lot of this would be cleared up if he posts the reads list I asked for

[bozotheclown]

why is jamie only scum if im scum.

I didn't say that, but if Jamie is scum I would be suspect you more.

[brainbomb]

why is jamie only scum if im scum.

I didn't say that, but if Jamie is scum I would be suspect you more.

ok well I havent really thought much of him but he seemes fairly haughty which is his usual thing

[brainbomb]

Jamie wasnt the lone driving force behind a lynch that just killed our FN. so im wondering why he or I are in the POE when I was adamant not to lynch damo. I even said if damo flipped scum id buy you all pizza

[foodcoats]

Oh brutal. I can't believe I helped kill the Friendly Neighbour.

I know I'm town so I think it's reasonable to assume that worcej, thdfrance or Nephthys is scum.

I followed the trail on votes around damo, I probably missed a lot of stuff but...:

#48 - xorxes votes damo
#85 - food votes damo
#136 - jamie votes damo
#138 - worcej votes damo
#171 - nepthys votes damo
#191 - jamie votes xorxes
#275 - jamie votes damo
#318 - thd votes damo
#364 - jamie votes xorxes

(xorxes moved off damo at some point, I missed that post.)

--Not sure if we can deduce anything from the fact that jamie wigglewaggled at the end.
--Should probably look back and see how else thd voted but I think that was their only vote?
--Not sure if there's a relationship between thd voting damo and jamie moving off the wagon a little later.
--worcej and I voted early and stuck to it and jamie and thd came in late. I heard that if you're town you're supposed to change your reads a lot, obviously I didn't do that - didn't see anything compelling to make me think differently - and neither did worcej, but I definitely get more of a scum vibe from jamie and thd than from worcej. Something about their press is more jabber and less work.
--Not sure at all about Nephthys, but they keep calling the game boring. Only a mafia member could interpret the game as boring, right? So maybe Nephthys is an infiltrator/mafia.

Going to have to have a look at the press of thd, worcej, and Nepthys a little more closely. (There's too much of jamie.)

[brainbomb]

xorxes needs to die imo

[foodcoats]

--Not sure at all about Nephthys, but they keep calling the game boring. Only a mafia member could interpret the game as boring, right? So maybe Nephthys is an infiltrator/mafia.

Well nevermind that, Nephthys's posts are too sincere and analytical. I think there are strong town vibes from Nephthys. Sorry I doubted you Nephthys.

[bozotheclown]

@bozo, would you mind posting a full read list for me, I'm struggling to put together some things.

With regards to your explanations I can see, to a degree, where you are coming from although I don't think Jamie would jump off a lead wagon when it is that close if he was scum. One vote would have swung it to either No lynch or Xorxes. I don't see a reason for a scum Jamie to change his vote last minute like that.

Personally I am town reading Jamie more now.

I do not have any strong town reads yet, but I do not see anything particularly suspicious from foodcoats, RagingIke, DrCJG, or xorxes. You and thdfrance both voted for damo when he was the top wagon without giving much of a reason. Jamie pushed a bad case on damo and seemed more sure about worcej than I think he should have been. I do not like brainbomb's votes for xorxes or me. I still question worcej's resisting saying he was town and his aggressive defense of it. Although I do not think anything xorxes said was scum indicative, it concerns me that 5 different players voted for him, it could indicate bussing was involved.

[bozotheclown]

For now, to encourage some more discussion ##vote damo

damo was already the top wagon when you voted for him, how did adding your vote to his wagon encourage discussion?

[bozotheclown]

Jamie wasnt the lone driving force behind a lynch that just killed our FN. so im wondering why he or I are in the POE when I was adamant not to lynch damo. I even said if damo flipped scum id buy you all pizza

You did not seem to do anything to try to prevent damo's lynch. And you did not say you thought damo was scum, you said you and damo were not scum together, which is an unusual way to state an opinion on damo. If you are town, that guarantees you and damo are not scum together, so that statement is not saying anything about damo's alignment.

[foodcoats]

Re-reading all of worcej, Nephthys and thd's press, I think worcej and Nephthys are working a lot harder than thd. Nephthys's analysis of thd's posting is good, too: there's been nothing substantive from thd. So if I have to pick one of my three co-damo slaggers as a scum read, and I think it's reasonable to do so, I think thdfrance may be the scum in the bucket.

[foodcoats]

I'm wondering, there's a few people who played up that day 1 is slow or random or whatever, and some people with personal life claims. From a meta perspective are these worth investigating? Do people use these excuses to scumlurk?

[brainbomb]

Jamie wasnt the lone driving force behind a lynch that just killed our FN. so im wondering why he or I are in the POE when I was adamant not to lynch damo. I even said if damo flipped scum id buy you all pizza

You did not seem to do anything to try to prevent damo's lynch. And you did not say you thought damo was scum, you said you and damo were not scum together, which is an unusual way to state an opinion on damo. If you are town, that guarantees you and damo are not scum together, so that statement is not saying anything about damo's alignment.

k bozo lynch me and lets lose the game. brilliant.

[worcej]

I'm wondering, there's a few people who played up that day 1 is slow or random or whatever, and some people with personal life claims. From a meta perspective are these worth investigating? Do people use these excuses to scumlurk?

It's hard to say because it is understandable for people to have RL issues to be around at certain times. Like I said, D1 is usually a shit show and then from that point on, you start getting better analysis on what people are saying and doing.

[Nephthys]

--Not sure at all about Nephthys, but they keep calling the game boring. Only a mafia member could interpret the game as boring, right? So maybe Nephthys is an infiltrator/mafia.

Well nevermind that, Nephthys's posts are too sincere and analytical. I think there are strong town vibes from Nephthys. Sorry I doubted you Nephthys.

All good buddy, if it it clears it up, my calling the game slow is more in reference that I am out of time zone to everyone else and so when I'm awake its usually slower/dead which pains me a little on the inside.

[Nephthys]

For now, to encourage some more discussion ##vote damo

damo was already the top wagon when you voted for him, how did adding your vote to his wagon encourage discussion?

Pressure from 5 is better than pressure from 4? I said my initial plan was a temporary vote until he offered some discussion.

[Nephthys]

I do wanna look at Ike as well;

He seems to be lurking a lot, at least whenever I check back. I understand that this may be a rough time for him given the RL situation but it feels as though if you can check the game repeatedly then there's probably some time to offer thoughts, even if it is that you have no clue what is happening.

Would love to see a bit more involvement from him.

[Nephthys]

I personally don't want to make a call as to where I think scum ended up in votes until I have at least another days information. I think now it is too speculative for me.

[RagingIke297]

I do wanna look at Ike as well;

He seems to be lurking a lot, at least whenever I check back. I understand that this may be a rough time for him given the RL situation but it feels as though if you can check the game repeatedly then there's probably some time to offer thoughts, even if it is that you have no clue what is happening.

Would love to see a bit more involvement from him.

Here I am, look at me!

[RagingIke297]

Is there where I post my concerns about multiple people playing in the same running mafia games or do I need to go some place else?