MINI MAFIA IV GAME THREAD

[brainbomb]

where bozo and rivera tend to bite back with skepticism. xorxes never bites. always holds his hand out like im.gonna win by his side as a friend.

that to me feels like a stance town wouldnt have rn

[brainbomb]

##End

im.voting to End the night so we can move on.

I think tomorrow we no lynch and force it to an F3.

[xorxes]

FWIW, I know I am dead. My thoughts are this:

Killing food was dumb instead of me earlier. I think Neph did this alone, being as it makes little sense to occur and would come off as noobish, thus thd was the other scum, thus it is rdr now.

Look there compatriots. Otherwise, my money is on BB wolfing.

rd was already in the game that night though

[xorxes]

Oh well, I'm back, but I'm going out again.

@bb, if you are town please consider how I could be town as well as considering how I could be scum.

I will. Ive only been in lylo once as town. on vdip when bozo was scum.

Me too, in that game where I was the Equalizer, but I was a clear that time.

[xorxes]

Take today for instance. I struggled all day with DRCGJC and bozo case on him wasnt great.

You liked it and seemed very convinced at first.

[xorxes]

DRCGJC gad towny moments, and whats so confusing is all of us have towny moments other than xorxes

You can't find a single towny moment from me?

[xorxes]

we have lazy town syndrome

We have like three or four days though

[xorxes]

bozo has a deeper understanding of the game than xorx. it definetely is not a chore for bozo.

bozo is the most likely scum from VCA. I haven't found his tone scummy though, but I will reread tomorrow with a clear head.

rivera is hindered by subbing in and is seeing the game as that its easy and that scum spewed everyone in a simple way and was afraid of me. but hes ignoring my ISO entirely, just like bozo ignored DRCGJC iso.

its town laziness.

Even though thd was scummy, it doesn't really fit well with Jamie/Nephthys.

which leaves xorxes. and all his reads yesterday pocketed me. he kept posting result after result that only benefits his position

What did I post that benefits my position for example?

bb, would you say that you are more disconnected from this game than you usually are?

[brainbomb]

I think Ive done the best I can.

theres some stuff ive not talked about that would perhaps be helpful.

I noted early xorxes got mad at me for saying I thought he was PR fishing on me
□xorx says im being too calm
□I ask if xorx is pr hunting
□he accuses me of planning to fake claim
□I say im vt with nothing to claim
□he says I have nothing to worry about

part 2
□Ike dies N1 after both xorx and I end say 1 on him
□I pretend to have seen bozo take an action. I started waving at bozo saying I saw something.
□my faking tracker was to see if anyone looked like they knew, I was lying.

the only ppl who reacted were Jamie who asked what the case was on bozo.

and xorxes who as soon as worcej claims a track on Jamoe, xorx tries to hammer and says ("I no longer feel bb is scum")

□I advise xorx not to hammer.


me pretending to have a guilty on bozo

Page 35 : g=1005&part=p34-36

brainbomb
Day-2 22:36
page 35 / orig did you go out last night bozo? drinks or anything?

brainbomb
Day-2 22:21
page 35 / orig you scared of me bozo?

Xorxes reax to worcej claim and my posturing

xorxes
Day-2 21:31
page 35 / orig ##VOTE Jamiet

##END

xorxes
Day-2 21:19
page 35 / orig I now think brainbomb is town.

xorxes
Day-2 21:18
page 35 / orig Not so sure about DrCJG anymore.

xorxes
Day-2 21:15
page 35 / orig @worcej, I thought you had hard-claimed VT lol

brainbomb
Day-2 21:13
page 35 / orig worcej thats interesting. why did you wait and whatd you learn

brainbomb
Day-2 21:13
page 35 / orig dont hammer
##Vote Jamie

xorxes
Day-2 21:10
page 35 / orig

↑brainbomb: "dont hammer
##Vote Jamie"
why not? ##unend

[brainbomb]

Jamiet99uk
Day-2 29:36
page 30 / orig @Brainbomb: What is your case on Bozo, the clown?

Jamie reax to my pretending I tracked bozo

[brainbomb]

xorxes
Night-1 00:13
page 26 Not a lot to add at this point:

Strongest townreads are foodcoats, bozo and Nephthys, but it's not unthinkable that one of them could be scum.

Second layer: Jamiet and brainbomb.
Third layer: worcej and RagingIke, not very strong scumreads.
Scummiest: DrCJG and thdfrance

guys.

come on. seriously xorx is never this bad.

[brainbomb]

dang xorxes, TDHfrance was once your top SR.

he sure moved a long way.

[rdrivera2005]

Jamiet99uk
Day-2 29:36
page 30 / orig @Brainbomb: What is your case on Bozo, the clown?

Jamie reax to my pretending I tracked bozo

Brain, this is something that was in my mind and I forgot to ask. Why you were soft claiming some scan/track on Bozo and what you got from that? I was reading it like you preparing a fake claim in case you got heat, but this could be confirmation bias.

[brainbomb]

I was testing him to see if anyone reacted funny. I was never hardclaiming there. I dont think I got very far on reactions since worcej claimed a guilty within mere posts of my reax testing.

But I do find xorxes reaction to be scum indicative as soon as worcej claimed, the zero hesitation and suddenly calling me town. he wasnt scumreading me before anyway so that seemed strange in that moment.

id pondered xorxes also being the outlier day 1 as to why Jamie seemed so ancy pages 6-8. I know ive excessively gone back to that moment but it makes alot of sense Jamie was nervous enough I had a good read on xorxes he probably used EOD1 to shelter his teams best hope. in this instance he bussed hard as hell in a somewhat perilous circumstance.

[bozotheclown]

I am afraid I got sidetracked when I reread Nephthys after finding out he was scum, combined with how I interpreted DrCJG's vote for rdrivera. Before that, I felt it was either brainbomb or xorxes, and I had concluded xorxes was more likely. I have disagreed with a lot of what xorxes has said all game and have suspected him for it, but most of it was not necessarily scum indicative, so I could never be sure if I was just seeing things differently. However, after rereading xorxes again, there are just too many things that I would not expect from xorxes as town.

I also found a new discrepancy from xorxes is my last reread that look pretty bad to me:

@foodcoats: I know you can't be sure I am town, but from my perspective, the possibilities for the remaining scum are brainbomb, DrCJG, Nephthys, rdrivera, and xorxes.

Here are their latest top scum reads:
brainbomb: rdrivera, DrCJG, and myself
DrCJG: rdrivera and Nephthys
Nephthys: rdrivera and xorxes
rdrivera: unknown
xorxes: rdrivera and Nephthys

I think I was the first to suggest you shoot rdrivera, but if rdrivera is scum, that means the other scum is bussing him. That is possible, but I am not sure scum would want to do that with only two scum left.

I think you'll find I also put you in my top scum reads buddy xx

Also, you literally just listed the entire player-base except the TCs as possible scum whilst avoiding giving idea of your own. Please tell me;
A) How does this post help town?
B) How does this not confirm you as scum?

I think this is the worst post I will ever see...

I can see this as Nephthys trying to bus/distance from bozo here.

@foodcoats: I know you can't be sure I am town, but from my perspective, the possibilities for the remaining scum are brainbomb, DrCJG, Nephthys, rdrivera, and xorxes.

Here are their latest top scum reads:
brainbomb: rdrivera, DrCJG, and myself
DrCJG: rdrivera and Nephthys
Nephthys: rdrivera and xorxes
rdrivera: unknown
xorxes: rdrivera and Nephthys

I think I was the first to suggest you shoot rdrivera, but if rdrivera is scum, that means the other scum is bussing him. That is possible, but I am not sure scum would want to do that with only two scum left.

I think you'll find I also put you in my top scum reads buddy xx

Also, you literally just listed the entire player-base except the TCs as possible scum whilst avoiding giving idea of your own. Please tell me;
A) How does this post help town?
B) How does this not confirm you as scum?

I think this is the worst post I will ever see...

The only reason I'm not clearing bozo from this post by Nephthys is that it was posted at night. He was so polite all game that this almost sounds aggressive.

That is a significant contraction, reading the same post in essentially opposite ways, and they are both from day 3. The first one came after I voted for xorxes at the beginning of day 3, and the second one came after I had got sidetracked and changed my vote to DrCJG. I believe in the first post xorxes was trying to scum read me to try to lynch me before I could get him lynched, but in the second, since I was pushing DrCJG, he thought he could get me to lynch brainbomb after DrCJG, based on the fact the I pointed out that brainbomb was the only one besides DrCJG that Nephthys ever scum read. I think this is further demonstrated by how xorxes came around fairly quickly on agreeing with me about DrCJG.

[bozotheclown]

I still do not think Nephthys would bus thdfrance starting the end of D1. I think he saw thdfrance's voting as appearing suspicious, which is was, and decided he would be a good mislynch candidate.

[bozotheclown]

Also, rereading brainbomb, I get the feeling that he has been trying to solve the game, and the things that he has done that look suspicious are consistent with what I have seen from him before as town. The reservation I have had is that I know he is capable of acting the same way as scum, but I can't point to any one thing that really made me suspect him, which is not the case with xorxes.

[brainbomb]

And do you agree we always no lynch in mylo and force scum to nk among us?

[bozotheclown]

And do you agree we always no lynch in mylo and force scum to nk among us?

I don't know about always, but I agree that is what we should do here.

[rdrivera2005]

First thing, I intend to do a full re-read before the weekend with a clear mind.

I am not so sure not lynching tomorrow is the best call. Is scum forced to NK? Otherwise he can just not kill and we are back to mylo and it can cycle. Not sure how it will be dealt.
But I see another thing, having 3 town against 1 scum make it harder for scum to win, he need to convince two town to get a sure myslynch. And if we can´t reach consensus we can just choose to no-lynch closer to the end. I know you can scum read me for this, but give a thought, if we enter the day with a no-lynch set it's a lost day. If we enter with a chance to reach consensus, we force scum to play and to have to try to sway the voting.