M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[Foxcastle]

My reads have been pretty damn good in this game after Day 1, I have to say.

Huh. Wonder why that could be???

##VOTE BALKI

Also, you know what else Town!Fox would have said by now? Town!Fox would have said something like:

"You know what, Balki, you are very good at Town, and I just can't see Town!Balki being so wrong about me for so long."

But you haven't said that. Because I am right about your alignment. And so it hasn't occurred to you to make that argument.

@EVERYONE: this is not Balki trying to change my mind or point out why I'm wrong. This is Balki trying to subtly sway your interpretation of my play. Because if he were town, he should know there is no way that he could talk with that kind of surety. That in and of itself is scummy.

[xorxes]

Speaking of awkward phase shifts, I'll be busy in meetings and such until after EoN. If I die, everyone should know what I'm thinking at this point.

You won't be NK'd. Nor will I, nor will Xorxes, nor will Fox.

This bugs me.

@damo, what was your reasoning for those four?

[Foxcastle]

Fox, I don't think Balki is getting lynched today, so who do you think his partner is?

I think Xorxes is Patient Zero, I think Kgray or Damo is likely Balki's partner.

[Fluminator]

I always feel judged by hypothetical god thread people spectating at this point in the game if I'm wrong, but I just don't think I can consider 4d chess moves right now, when separate distinct scumtells all point to at least one of Rdrivera and Fox being scum.
I'll start with ##Vote Rdrivera

[kgray]

Fox, I don't think Balki is getting lynched today, so who do you think his partner is?

I think Xorxes is Patient Zero, I think Kgray or Damo is likely Balki's partner.

Can you explain why you went from this:

"Chaqa, Kgray, and Damo are townleans (though I’m becoming less sure about Kgray)."

to thinking either me or damo is Balki's partner in the past 20 minutes?

[xorxes]

Fox, I don't think Balki is getting lynched today, so who do you think his partner is?

I think Xorxes is Patient Zero, I think Kgray or Damo is likely Balki's partner.

Do you think Bob would have voted for patient zero the way he did?

[Foxcastle]

Fox, I don't think Balki is getting lynched today, so who do you think his partner is?

I think Xorxes is Patient Zero, I think Kgray or Damo is likely Balki's partner.

Can you explain why you went from this:

"Chaqa, Kgray, and Damo are townleans (though I’m becoming less sure about Kgray)."

to thinking either me or damo is Balki's partner in the past 20 minutes?

Well, I did say that there had to be someone in my townreads who was scum. Then Chaqa died. Then you and Damo were left at the bottom of my reads non-scum reads.

[Foxcastle]

Fox, I don't think Balki is getting lynched today, so who do you think his partner is?

I think Xorxes is Patient Zero, I think Kgray or Damo is likely Balki's partner.

Do you think Bob would have voted for patient zero the way he did?

You mean that early Day 3 vote that he changed to Chaqa with 15 hours to go? I think it's possible, yes. He probably checked into the god thread and got some tips, which may have included the need to distance himself from Patient Zero but not actually try to get them lynched.

[kgray]

I think Xorxes is Patient Zero, I think Kgray or Damo is likely Balki's partner.

Can you explain why you went from this:

"Chaqa, Kgray, and Damo are townleans (though I’m becoming less sure about Kgray)."

to thinking either me or damo is Balki's partner in the past 20 minutes?

Well, I did say that there had to be someone in my townreads who was scum. Then Chaqa died. Then you and Damo were left at the bottom of my reads non-scum reads.

Okay, so do you think it makes sense for either me or damo specifically to be Balki's partner? Or is this just based on you POE?

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Flum,

For post-death GOD thread discussion.

NOTE: Chaqa read me as scum like all game. He was town! worcej saw me as scum for a lot of Day 1. Town again!

It's not perfect, and it's prone to manipulation after I start talking about it too much. But I'm telling ya -- it's surprisingly useful early in a game.

[xorxes]

I think Xorxes is Patient Zero, I think Kgray or Damo is likely Balki's partner.

Do you think Bob would have voted for patient zero the way he did?

You mean that early Day 3 vote that he changed to Chaqa with 15 hours to go? I think it's possible, yes. He probably checked into the god thread and got some tips, which may have included the need to distance himself from Patient Zero but not actually try to get them lynched.

Fair enough. He only changed it because he was challenged though, otherwise it looked like he would have just parked it there.

[Foxcastle]

Can you explain why you went from this:

"Chaqa, Kgray, and Damo are townleans (though I’m becoming less sure about Kgray)."

to thinking either me or damo is Balki's partner in the past 20 minutes?

Well, I did say that there had to be someone in my townreads who was scum. Then Chaqa died. Then you and Damo were left at the bottom of my reads non-scum reads.

Okay, so do you think it makes sense for either me or damo specifically to be Balki's partner? Or is this just based on you POE?

Oh, I have a theory about you specifically, being a a new player. (Not judging your skills, just your newness to this group.) I think that makes it more important that Balki target the unusual suspects for the NK, because with Sulit lurking and then Bob lurking, and with you being new, it was even more important that he create plausible deniability about why he and Xorxes hadn't been NK'd as game goes on, because if he and Xorxes go down, their game is left in the hands of a lurker and an unknown quantity.

[Foxcastle]

Do you think Bob would have voted for patient zero the way he did?

You mean that early Day 3 vote that he changed to Chaqa with 15 hours to go? I think it's possible, yes. He probably checked into the god thread and got some tips, which may have included the need to distance himself from Patient Zero but not actually try to get them lynched.

Fair enough. He only changed it because he was challenged though, otherwise it looked like he would have just parked it there.

That's speculative. He might not have left it there, there was plenty he could have reacted to as the day wen ton, and he might simply have used the challenge as an easy way off when it came up.

[rdrivera2005]

I always feel judged by hypothetical god thread people spectating at this point in the game if I'm wrong, but I just don't think I can consider 4d chess moves right now, when separate distinct scumtells all point to at least one of Rdrivera and Fox being scum.
I'll start with ##Vote Rdrivera

If yiu want to waste the last myslynch on me go ahead.
I am pretty sure at least one of you, Xorxes and Balki are scum, probably two (and are keeping the other alive as a cover). There is no possible scumteam that will lynch Brain, Worcej and Chaqa before you three if you are all town.

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Foxy, you have been voting Chaqa and thinking Chaqa was scum a lot this game. Perhaps you want to go back and re-read EOD3 now that you've [learned] this [new] information about Chaqa's alignment, and maybe it will change your [sincere] views on the game? Right? Right?

[Balki Bartokomous]

I always feel judged by hypothetical god thread people spectating at this point in the game if I'm wrong, but I just don't think I can consider 4d chess moves right now, when separate distinct scumtells all point to at least one of Rdrivera and Fox being scum.
I'll start with ##Vote Rdrivera

If yiu want to waste the last myslynch on me go ahead.
I am pretty sure at least one of you, Xorxes and Balki are scum, probably two (and are keeping the other alive as a cover). There is no possible scumteam that will lynch Brain, Worcej and Chaqa before you three if you are all town.

Watcher.

[bozotheclown]

Among the D3 emc voters, it seems damo and kgray are not getting much attention, although they were the only 2 who did not vote for Bob at any time D3. damo was actively trying to get emc lynched over Bob at EOD, something I have pointed out he has been willing to do before as scum.

##VOTE damo

[damo666]

You won't be NK'd. Nor will I, nor will Xorxes, nor will Fox.

This bugs me.

@damo, what was your reasoning for those four?

the least townread

[xorxes]

I always feel judged by hypothetical god thread people spectating at this point in the game if I'm wrong, but I just don't think I can consider 4d chess moves right now, when separate distinct scumtells all point to at least one of Rdrivera and Fox being scum.
I'll start with ##Vote Rdrivera

If yiu want to waste the last myslynch on me go ahead.
I am pretty sure at least one of you, Xorxes and Balki are scum, probably two (and are keeping the other alive as a cover). There is no possible scumteam that will lynch Brain, Worcej and Chaqa before you three if you are all town.

I don't disagree that one of them could be scum, but that reason you give is very poor. If you were scum. you could keep us three alive so you could make this very argument. And would you really kill someone that has a good chance of being watched?

[rdrivera2005]

I always feel judged by hypothetical god thread people spectating at this point in the game if I'm wrong, but I just don't think I can consider 4d chess moves right now, when separate distinct scumtells all point to at least one of Rdrivera and Fox being scum.
I'll start with ##Vote Rdrivera

If yiu want to waste the last myslynch on me go ahead.
I am pretty sure at least one of you, Xorxes and Balki are scum, probably two (and are keeping the other alive as a cover). There is no possible scumteam that will lynch Brain, Worcej and Chaqa before you three if you are all town.

Watcher.

Do you really think that scum are that worried with the Watcher to avoid at all costs lynching someone obvious? And they don't fear that after 3 nights the Watcher could also change his strategy? I call this bullshit and a cover