I didnt see a justification for why you were voting sweet. If you wanna set the record straight on why by all means; show me and teach me how to understand you
Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
Well, I grew up in the fallout from the riots in the '90s
Static cranes stand lifeless, castin' shadows on the town
I stare out that hallowed ocean as if to pick a fight
For thе dreams my old man dreamt for me lay on thе other side, yeah
Static cranes stand lifeless, castin' shadows on the town
I stare out that hallowed ocean as if to pick a fight
For thе dreams my old man dreamt for me lay on thе other side, yeah
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
It looks like your job today ghuggie was to run obfuscation on sweet so the rest of your team could power him out of the game.
Balki-you-fidelis is my guess
But dip and war also seems somewhat involved so im not sure what peice im missing
Balki-you-fidelis is my guess
But dip and war also seems somewhat involved so im not sure what peice im missing
Well, I grew up in the fallout from the riots in the '90s
Static cranes stand lifeless, castin' shadows on the town
I stare out that hallowed ocean as if to pick a fight
For thе dreams my old man dreamt for me lay on thе other side, yeah
Static cranes stand lifeless, castin' shadows on the town
I stare out that hallowed ocean as if to pick a fight
For thе dreams my old man dreamt for me lay on thе other side, yeah
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
Ok I'm drunk again and the meta request appeals to me.
This is fair to omit but I'd expect you to note it at least and probably take it seriously.ghug wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:00 pmWhy would you do that? History suggests I'm only good at catching scum D1 if you're scum. Thus I can only conclude that you're inclined to sheep me because you're scum.sweetandcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:47 pmI'm not participating in this mayor stuff, but honestly I already determined that I would sheep you unless I feel strongly about someone. So I guess that is effectively a mayor vote.
Here I'm probing. Again reasonable to admit, but useful context.ghug wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:50 pmI'm doing this myself with at least two players, but why are you advocating it to everyone, and why damo?sweetandcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:11 pmDamo D1 MK would make me incredibly unhappy. Make a mental note and move onto someone else for the DK please.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:08 pmOkay, let's talk about something else.
I still feel good about my Damo vote. How do other people feel about Damo and why?
I express a desire to vote sweet (ND is the trash). The VT claim pinged me.ghug wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:51 amI want to vote sweet but we really need to take out the trash first.sweetandcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:53 amWill, I really think you are Town but I think you are off track. Mainly because you seem to be tunneled and take everything Balki says as scummy, and you think I am not Town when in fact I am VT.JustAGuyNamedWill wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:50 am
Hmmm I don’t like this take
I’m not confident in food being town but I should still say it so that town has info
Here I call him out on something small.ghug wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:02 am"Proof"sweetandcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:12 amYou ignore any reasons I suspect you.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:03 amSo, sweet says my play is NAI at page 33.
Post 652:
Then he responds at 656 to a Will post that suggests that I may be Angel because...I'm doing a good job solving? (LOL at that, but whatevs, doesn't matter for the point I am making)
Then there is a bunch of discussion about how all this trying to pinpoint a mafia faction is silly and Will says "Angels are a net detriment to Town (LOL, obviously, but whatevs), and then sweetandcool says:
So , TLDR, in summary:
(1) sweetandcool says that Balki could be Angel because Balki mentioned a strategy that is anti-judge.
(2) People tell sweetandcool that we need to look for any kind of scum, not just Judges.
(3) So sweetandcool is happy to DK Balki...
In other words, sweetandcool is "okay to DK Balki" because Balki came up with a plan that is anti-Judge...
Hey sweetandcool, there is another faction that is anti-Judge that is not the Angel faction...it's the Town faction. Ad if you were trying to sort Scum from Town, I think you'd see that without being told.
I don't think this progression from sweetandcool is real. I think it's fake.
Your anti-Judge plan is simply proof that you are not Judge.
This is fascinating though, thank you for the actionable content. I will have to think about this, but gut says scum.
Here I vote sweet for the first time.
Here I express a pretty serious concern.ghug wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:05 pmYeah, I'm as weirded out as the next guy by the quick growth of the wagon, but the "my push didn't work so I'm backing off" thing is classic scum sweet.brainbomb wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:52 pmsweet is not the best at playing as scum. and what I saw looked like defeated frustrated sweet caving in on himself as per usual as mafia. last night he did a 180 on almost every read he had, he kept talking about exclusively needing to find judges and yet spent all his time focusing on balki being an angel. when asked about his take on non posters he claimed to agree with everything I said, and the things I said were all if/then questions so there is no possible way he really read my posts. He also clearly didnt really read my case on damo, and had already decided damo was town before ever even bothering.
most likely sweet is mafia, and doesnt like the setup, was hoping somehow that he could try to townside and it failed.
Here's the bit you quoted, which comes after all of the other shit and my first vote.ghug wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:21 pmThis displays a scumtell I identified in myself at one point.sweetandcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:45 pmbrainbomb wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:52 pmsweet is not the best at playing as scum. and what I saw looked like defeated frustrated sweet caving in on himself as per usual as mafia. last night he did a 180 on almost every read he had, he kept talking about exclusively needing to find judges and yet spent all his time focusing on balki being an angel. when asked about his take on non posters he claimed to agree with everything I said, and the things I said were all if/then questions so there is no possible way he really read my posts. He also clearly didnt really read my case on damo, and had already decided damo was town before ever even bothering.
most likely sweet is mafia, and doesnt like the setup, was hoping somehow that he could try to townside and it failed.
So nobody thinks this looks like Mafia? This is not the brainbomb I know, spewing false narratives left and right. brain omb is definitely Mafia I have no doubts whatsoever.
I will not be answering questions.
This is probably worth noting if you're analyzing my relationship to sweet. It's the truth, so I won't bother, but I'm sure you could find an ulterior motive.
Here I vote sweet despite the above because I didn't like the other options better. I moved on to Ham later.
I thought this was going to be you missing shit because you isoed but I'm honestly confused what your search method was that concluded that my only relevant opinion was one that I expressed after I voted him the first time. There's so much information there. What was your process?
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
What does running obfuscation on sweet even mean?
In what fucking world am I Fid's teammate?
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
Well, townies are teammates, no? Are you...not also town?
"I cannot think, I cannot fight. With patience, I will find my way."
(hmu if you ever need to find a willing person to be the next 20 questions QM)
(hmu if you ever need to find a willing person to be the next 20 questions QM)
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
Lol good catch
Fid's [scum] teammate. It's just patently absurd that I'd go out on this limb for a scum teammate that is realistically doomed.
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
Why did you not partake in N1 hyposcan?
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
@food
I'll respond to you when on laptop. Phone awkward.
I'll respond to you when on laptop. Phone awkward.
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
so glad you had so much work put in to remedy the course
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
the question is why, especially since he did post less on D1 than D2, and you are so adamantly against voting low posters
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
did he? I thought he had a quite normal play.
What does strike you so overly bizarre on his play?
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
I want to flip ND first, he's playing so egregious that I just want to end vote him out of the game. In the low chance he is actually town, he should finally start to play and inform us of his tells, and try to find out stuff, because he is doing absolutely nothing. And even then he needs to do a lot, before I consider not voting him out.DrFidelis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:44 pmBefore I probably get voted out D3, what the heck is a QT?brainbomb wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:15 pmFrom the Holier than thou QT:
Balki: we survive again guys. i have prepared a beaker full of a chemical drink I want us all to try. This drink is an elixir which will help us win this game. It makes us incapable of helping anyone.
Ghug: Ive already been playing like I dont want anything to happen
Dipandwar: Yes. i too have been looking for evidence everywhere and I keep finding virtually nothing.
Damo: There is no evidence in mafia. If there were ive been playing it wrong for years.
Ghug: oh thats a definite reality. Youve been playing wrong for years.
balki: Well I have to go my sword swallower contest if about to begin
Ghug: they swallow swords in costa rica?
Balki: No but It helps clear all the hot dogs out of my chest cavity
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
what do you think now, who is your most likely mafia, after sweet flipped town?Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:57 pmWell, I am in a lawn chair, sipping on a pina colada, listening to the howler monkeys and the birds, focusing on the bright side.
We’re about to get a full second round of cop reports, and our PRs remain hidden. We’re down two, but were putting a bunch of scans in the thread to interpret later. We’re going to be okay. Just need our townies to be even more assertive because almost half of the people in the thread tomorrow are going to be wolves. It won’t be a good time to be a passive follower.
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
All hail our new and old co-GMJamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:29 amGM NOTE
Since you so rudely killed him, I have re-animated Sweetandcool's still-warm corpse and promoted him to co-GM.
Please respect any GM notices posted to the thread by Sweetandcool.
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
???
Brian was already voted out on D2, what are you talking about?
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
I could see a team like that. I am however not convinced anyone of those are conclusive mafia.
Why don't you put d&w into the team making it balki-ghug-fidelis-d&w? Isn't there a 4-person mafia team?
Would you think that those might be good targets to be scanned?
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
Yes, you're right sweet was in a higher bucket but in the last minute or two once the Balki wagon had dissipated it was clearly a 3 way choice between ND, DrF and sweet and I was pretty ambivalent. My main concern was hoping for it not to be a tie. ghug didn't want DrF and chaqa didn't ant sweet. I decided changing at the last few seconds maximised the chance of a non tie as there would be little chance to react. I acknowledge it was risky. I was happy to vote sweet becausefoodcoats wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:15 amHey damo
You made the critical choice for the daykill by flipping off from DrF at the last second to go onto sweet.
In your iso yesterday your final word on them where you make an outright alignment statement was as below. You indicate that DrF is null-scum and sweet is null. Therefore, you explicitly thought that DrF was scummier than sweet. Indeed, this is what your reads list shows.
You provided no rationale in your final flip to pull the lever on sweet over DrF.
So why did you make a last minute move onto sweet to kill him over DrF?
DrFsweetandcoolAnd for completeness, here is your referenced list:
damo666 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:41 amPutting people into buckets (mainly for my own benefit), unranked within buckets
TOWN (will not vote for)
damo
brain
Null to TOWN (very unlikely to vote for)
Chaqa
Kak
Kotp
Snowy
Null (could be persuaded to vote for and definitely would to self save)
RHK
Dip
food
ghug
Will
ND
rdr
sweet
Vecna
Null - SCUM (will probably vote from here)
Balki
Dr F
worcej
SCUM (would happily vote)
Nobody as yet
a) I thought he had been saved D1 (it turns out it was TvTvT)
b) hopefully provided more info than the other two
c) was unlikely to be town PR due to the vt claim
Having indicated I would probably vote DrF over sweet the element of surprise also appealed to me.
Basically I just gambled hoping to avoid a tie.
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
Looking at that, I get the feeling that most town were on ND or DrFid. We have three options here, one that was highly involved (sweet), and two where we had very low information off (DrFid and ND).Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:06 pmEnd Of Day 2 Vote Count
sweetandcool(8) - Balki Bartokomous, worcej, rdrivera2005, DrFidelis, kingofthepirates, ghug, damo666, JustAGuyNamedWill
DrFidelis(6) - foodcoats, brainbomb, Vecna, ND, sweetandcool, Diplomacy&Warfare
ND(4)Kakarroto, DemonRHK, Chaqa, snowy801
Please Keep Holding.
Why would you want to get rid of high posters? Sweet did a good job in putting stuff out, getting information, talking, it just feels like he was smeared by mafia and then all mafia preferred getting sweet out over the other low posters. To be fair, I didn't find him especially towny, but I didn't find him mafia-esque either. I think we will find a proportional high mafia count in the sweet voters here.
It might just be, that DrFid was saved by voting for sweet. That would make ghug and damo prime candidates for being on the team of him. Will did vote too, but that was more of a 'don't tie' vote, I think, which ghug usually does. Although he also proclaimed that he hates the DrFid wagon. Hmm. Well, d&w did vote sweet too, though that vote didn't count since it was after.
Also, maybe I'm wrong that ND is mafia, but nonetheless he has been unhelpful and we know nothing but that he wants to get rid of DrFid, for whatever real reason.
I feel very good about food, brain and Vecna now. I'm surprised with ND not voting for sweet here, but that might be still a maf-strategy. He needs to do a lot before I consider him not to be a good vote candidate.
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
was he?
that doesn't look to me as if he enjoys it. More like he expected people voting for him because of reasons.
Or was it something else that you thought he was happy to be wagoned on? Are you perhaps on a team with ND who is mean machine? Or did you want to throw shade here?
Why didn't you vote him after you pointed that out?
would maf-vecna say just that?
I don't think this is maf-chaqa here. Sure, he would have a smaller pool to guess who is town or the other mafia team, but I don't think maf-chaqa would put his neck out there in that situation
Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD
I’ll have to look at those tomorrow.Diplomacy&Warfare wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:26 amHey food,
What do you think of the other three wagons (balki, ND, DrF) that didn't go through? What about damo? Finally, please give me your read on brain.
I did notice a weird little push on Chaqa towards EOD yesterday. Vecna has been jokingly pushing Chaqa and he got brain and ghug to go there with him. It looked wrong.
I think brain is town.
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