Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[Frogsterking]

I'm looking at the game from a point of view where the scum team is Bob + bozo + jamiet and 2 unknowns. At one point in time kakarotto deduced that two of woc/hamilton//BK3K are scum. Now that we have confirmation or near-confirmation BK3K is lobbyist, are woc and hamilton the final two scum slots? Is Bob + bozo + jamiet + hamilton + woc a team solve?

@kakarotto

Did that surprise Foodcoats flip change your assessment at all of the last two scum slots?

[damo666]

Wait, I keep misreading.

Only way to get alignment is Detective, ECO or Mail Man.

I'm assuming brainbomb is Mail Man and Bozo is Detective.

Then as ECO, then Jamiet's vote for lfischl makes lfischl Mafia, just as I thought.

This was AFTER sweet changed his return to claim DETECTIVE.

Possibly THE BIGGEST SCUMSLIP OF ALL TIME

How is that a scum slip my dude

How can he assume Bozo is Detective when he claims he is already assuming he is detective himself?

[damo666]

Could be true if another lying mafia RBed food

I believe I must have been the one targeted by the Sicko of that helps

Nope. You were curfewed by Frog

[Chaqa]

Could be true if another lying mafia RBed food

I believe I must have been the one targeted by the Sicko of that helps

No you weren't

Then, why did I get undelivered?

[Chaqa]

Could be true if another lying mafia RBed food

I believe I must have been the one targeted by the Sicko of that helps

Nope. You were curfewed by Frog

I can’t follow this crap anymore. I’ll be back to drop a hammer at 6:01.

[Frogsterking]

I believe I must have been the one targeted by the Sicko of that helps

No you weren't

Then, why did I get undelivered?

It's my fault, I'm sorry..

[Frogsterking]

I believe I must have been the one targeted by the Sicko of that helps

Nope. You were curfewed by Frog

I can’t follow this crap anymore. I’ll be back to drop a hammer at 6:01.

We have two more scum slots to find. Jamiet, bob and bozo are the first three. Can you give me your takes on hamiltonbrian and woc before you go?

[damo666]

Nope. You were curfewed by Frog

I can’t follow this crap anymore. I’ll be back to drop a hammer at 6:01.

We have two more scum slots to find. Jamiet, bob and bozo are the first three. Can you give me your takes on hamiltonbrian and woc before you go?

Why bozo rather than sweet?

[Chaqa]

Nope. You were curfewed by Frog

I can’t follow this crap anymore. I’ll be back to drop a hammer at 6:01.

We have two more scum slots to find. Jamiet, bob and bozo are the first three. Can you give me your takes on hamiltonbrian and woc before you go?

I think worcej being disinterested in this setup is NAI.

No thoughts on Hamilton.

[damo666]

Jamie Ham and Bob are caught scum

I'm assuming Bozo is Detective and sweet is scum so ....

Bozo Detective
heart IA

Chaqa Darter
damo PDB

Neph RD
Brain/Baby one scum one Pollster

Dip Middle M

BK3K Lobbyist
Frog Curfew
lfischl Doc
worcej/Kak News Host/MailMan [worcej town by Bozo Kak town by effort]

The Bozo and Kak assumptions mean the last scum is one of brain/baby. Unsure which was to guess. Was Jamie winding up town brain or was it scum theatre? I'm inclined to doubt the latter.

Conclusion:

Scum team is : Jamie Bob Ham Sweet Baby

[Chaqa]

Bob and Jamie Present: Cooking a Sweet Baby Ham

[brainbomb]

JustAGuyNamedWill (7) Diplomacy&Warfare, foodcoats, bozotheclown, Hamilton Brian, brainbomb, babyspice666, lfischl
BK3K (4) Frogsterking, BobMcBob, Kakarroto, JustAGuyNamedWill
sweetandcool (2) damo666, BunnyGo
lfischl (3) Chaqa, heartthrob24909, Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto (1) Nephthys
Diplomacy&Warfare (1) BK3K
Frogsterking (1) sweetandcool
Chaqa (1) worcej

[damo666]

Brain Baby Sweet and Bozo as being ones under suspicion should announce their N2 target before EON.

Game is quasi solved.

Scum in your chat discuss whether you may as well concede.

[damo666]

I will target Chaqa as requested by Kak

[brainbomb]

Will - I haven't developed much of a read on Will tbh. I think food's case on him is... fine? But I don't love it. I could see it being a townie just having their words twisted.

Food - I also like food's questions and analysis for the most part, seems proactive. The focus on lfischl is strange but I can't think what it would mean. Seems towny.

[Frogsterking]

This was AFTER sweet changed his return to claim DETECTIVE.

Possibly THE BIGGEST SCUMSLIP OF ALL TIME

How is that a scum slip my dude

How can he assume Bozo is Detective when he claims he is already assuming he is detective himself?

Okay last night you asked if you were overthinking bozo's second part of his claim and here with sweet is a situation where I believe you actually are reading too much into it (IMO.) I believe sweet's thoughts changed a lot as they were excited and posting in the thread real-time. It's also normal to exaggerate how much we knew in hindsight because ego. I think sweet's thoughts jumped around a lot and at the time they wrote this post they believed they were ECO. Compare this to bozo who barely has a pulse and stutter-stepped his way through his claim. Bozo is being cautious about what he puts into the thread because he is micromanaging how he is perceived because he is scum and has TMI. Sweet is not micromanaging how he is perceived and is exaggerating his knowledge because he does not have TMI. That's my take.

[brainbomb]

thoughts at the end of page 20:

I think Will, Kak, and Food feel townie to me, just cuz of the way that they post.

[damo666]

@brain why are you wasting energy on caught scum?

[brainbomb]

We need flips though; I've got a feeling about Food and of the competitive wagons, I'd go for Will first.

##Vote JustAGuyNamedWill

@Kak, you don't think this is Chaqa being Chaqa?

[damo666]

How is that a scum slip my dude

How can he assume Bozo is Detective when he claims he is already assuming he is detective himself?

Okay last night you asked if you were overthinking bozo's second part of his claim and here with sweet is a situation where I believe you actually are reading too much into it (IMO.) I believe sweet's thoughts changed a lot as they were excited and posting in the thread real-time. It's also normal to exaggerate how much we knew in hindsight because ego. I think sweet's thoughts jumped around a lot and at the time they wrote this post they believed they were ECO. Compare this to bozo who barely has a pulse and stutter-stepped his way through his claim. Bozo is being cautious about what he puts into the thread because he is micromanaging how he is perceived because he is scum and has TMI. Sweet is not micromanaging how he is perceived and is exaggerating his knowledge because he does not have TMI. That's my take.

How could he think he was ECO? This way past the food reveal.