Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[bozotheclown]

Short hand of my logic

Chaqa/Food/Fisch all failed - Doctor/Sicko/CE
Jamie likely RB food, Frog likely RB Chaqa -> one is mafia
If Jamie roleblocked food, then Bob MUST be Middle manager
Given there are no other claims for a role return Dip must be CC OR Mailman and CC lied (This may be Jamie and he is Sicko)
Given Fisch also failed, this makes them likely the doctor

Either Worcej OR Bk3K must be NH (Success followed by Success)
As Bob is middle manager, thus returned ECO. Worcej is NH
Bob must have received ECO as his reveal for Jamie/Dip to both receive this
Bob and Dip are either MM/MM/EH

If the above statement by bob is correct then Chaqa/Damo are both town

Either sweet or Bozo is mafia

The Lobbyist targetted either BoB/Heart or Baby AND returned success
BK3K must be the lobbyist

Hearthrob is IA

For the claims to add up, the mail man MUST have recevied success
Therefore Dip is the email hacker
Kak targetted Frog who received success
Hamilton visited Damo who got delivered
Therefore Kak is mailman and Hamilton is scum

Brain is the pollster
Baby cannot be either dada driver OR ruber driver
In lieu of further claims, Neph must be the ruber driver

First, how do you explain Jamie reporting foodcoats exact role and reporting it if he is the mafia role blocker? I think Jamie has to be the Police Commissioner.

That should read "Jamie knowing foodcoats exact role and reporting it".

Second, Jamie being the Police Commissioner would mean that Bob roleblocked foodcoats and Diplomacy&Warfare is the Middle Manager.

[bozotheclown]

Could be true if another lying mafia RBed food

What could be true? I think Bob roleblocked foodcoats as either the mafia or town roleblocker.

[Jamiet99uk]

Hello, Town Opponents.

Looks like I'll be the flip tomorrow.

I'm not going to say much unless anyone would like me to make them a picture? I might as well have some fun while I'm still allowed to post. Happy to take requests.

[damo666]

Hello, Town Opponents.

Looks like I'll be the flip tomorrow.

I'm not going to say much unless anyone would like me to make them a picture? I might as well have some fun while I'm still allowed to post. Happy to take requests.

Draw us a picture of your team

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Could be true if another lying mafia RBed food

What could be true? I think Bob roleblocked foodcoats as either the mafia or town roleblocker.

That means that I am the Middle Manager because I returned ECO and can't be the PI because that would return Bob's roleblocking role, while if Bob roleblocked foodcoats and I was the Mailman I would return 'success' or 'failure'. Also means foodcoats is the ECO.

[Chaqa]

I've solved it

Bob please confirm that you returned ECO and then ill post the solution

Why would you give him this out without waiting for him

[Chaqa]

Suggestions for PR night actions:

Curfew Enforcer: I'm not 100% sure who you are, but I think to 99.9% it's frog. If not, frog is sicko. I want you to hunt for this sicko. RB him into oblivion. With this you will guaranteed rob mafia of 50% of their power. Maybe even 100% if they choose the sicko to do the nk. But lock him away. Make him wear a mask. That would be huge for our doc and investigators!

Door dasher and Paper delivery boy: I suggest you two (damo chaqa?) confirm each other by visiting each other. I know the paper delivery boy also tells you your role, but you will rob mafia any fakeclaim chance for the delivery brackets. And your biggest power, to show that you are town, will be empowered if you just clear each other.

detective: sweet, bozo; both of you know who is fake claiming here. You don't need to scan the other. Better check one we aren't fully sure of, like Brian. The exact choice is yours, just don't forget to tell who you are going to scan, maybe around EoD or so to rob mafia the info who will be scanned. FWIW I think sweet is our detective.

middle manager: pretty sure now it's D&W; so if you are up for the chain scan, you should target our detective in case mafia decides to nk him. I think detective is sweet, but if you are absolute sure bozo is detective, scan him. At least we will know who he will target then if he is mafia. In case the chain scan isn't done, I suggest targeting someone who you know (and I mean know) of who they target. That will be valuable info too.

mail man: pretty sure it's brain; like above, the chain scan might still make sense, so you should talk to D&W if you would do that. It might be a bit of a waste of investigation power, but it guarantees solid info in case mafia tries to manipulate. Maybe a bit overkill when our curfew enforcer rb's their rb. Other than that, if you choose to use it as a free scan, that's fine too. It could hit a target that returns low info (like success or so), but it's your power, I'm sure you're responsible with it.

news host: targeting either sweet or bozo might be good. Maybe even D&W, but rb could mess with you here. I don't think you should hunt for mafia roles, but please don't forget to post your target before EoN.

Lobbyist: I suggest targeting a confirmed town to give them +1 vote. Whoever you choose, please say so before EoN.

Ruber Driver: maybe you should check either bozo or sweet for who they target, so you can confirm what they are claiming and to make 100% clear (if the chain I suggested is done) who the role our middle manager scanned belongs to. Best to coordinate with the middle manager (D&W).

I’ve entered Damo for now, but are him and I are not already clear? We could do more

[damo666]

Could be true if another lying mafia RBed food

What could be true? I think Bob roleblocked foodcoats as either the mafia or town roleblocker.

That means that I am the Middle Manager because I returned ECO and can't be the PI because that would return Bob's roleblocking role, while if Bob roleblocked foodcoats and I was the Mailman I would return 'success' or 'failure'. Also means foodcoats is the ECO.

We know Bunny is PI and food is ECO. I think you have to be Middle Manager because nobody else can be (apart from badtown Bob which at this stage is negligible). This means Bob targeted food as Corrupt Cop.

[Frogsterking]

What could be true? I think Bob roleblocked foodcoats as either the mafia or town roleblocker.

That means that I am the Middle Manager because I returned ECO and can't be the PI because that would return Bob's roleblocking role, while if Bob roleblocked foodcoats and I was the Mailman I would return 'success' or 'failure'. Also means foodcoats is the ECO.

We know Bunny is PI and food is ECO. I think you have to be Middle Manager because nobody else can be (apart from badtown Bob which at this stage is negligible). This means Bob targeted food as Corrupt Cop.

Why corrupt cop instead of sicko?

[Frogsterking]

Bozotheclown is losing his CC battle against a confirmed liar

[Frogsterking]

Bozotheclown is losing his CC battle against a confirmed liar

[damo666]

Wait, I keep misreading.

Only way to get alignment is Detective, ECO or Mail Man.

I'm assuming brainbomb is Mail Man and Bozo is Detective.

Then as ECO, then Jamiet's vote for lfischl makes lfischl Mafia, just as I thought.

This was AFTER sweet changed his return to claim DETECTIVE.

Possibly THE BIGGEST SCUMSLIP OF ALL TIME

[damo666]

That means that I am the Middle Manager because I returned ECO and can't be the PI because that would return Bob's roleblocking role, while if Bob roleblocked foodcoats and I was the Mailman I would return 'success' or 'failure'. Also means foodcoats is the ECO.

We know Bunny is PI and food is ECO. I think you have to be Middle Manager because nobody else can be (apart from badtown Bob which at this stage is negligible). This means Bob targeted food as Corrupt Cop.

Why corrupt cop instead of sicko?

Because sicko returns 'success/fail'

[damo666]

Bozotheclown is losing his CC battle against a confirmed liar

No he isn't lol

[Frogsterking]

Wait, I keep misreading.

Only way to get alignment is Detective, ECO or Mail Man.

I'm assuming brainbomb is Mail Man and Bozo is Detective.

Then as ECO, then Jamiet's vote for lfischl makes lfischl Mafia, just as I thought.

This was AFTER sweet changed his return to claim DETECTIVE.

Possibly THE BIGGEST SCUMSLIP OF ALL TIME

How is that a scum slip my dude

[Frogsterking]

We know Bunny is PI and food is ECO. I think you have to be Middle Manager because nobody else can be (apart from badtown Bob which at this stage is negligible). This means Bob targeted food as Corrupt Cop.

Why corrupt cop instead of sicko?

Because sicko returns 'success/fail'

Middle Manager returns target, not message though

[Chaqa]

Could be true if another lying mafia RBed food

I believe I must have been the one targeted by the Sicko of that helps

[Frogsterking]

Could be true if another lying mafia RBed food

I believe I must have been the one targeted by the Sicko of that helps

No you weren't

[Frogsterking]

Could be true if another lying mafia RBed food

I believe I must have been the one targeted by the Sicko of that helps

No you weren't

Trust me

[damo666]

Why corrupt cop instead of sicko?

Because sicko returns 'success/fail'

Middle Manager returns target, not message though

Yes, sorry. Jamie Bob are Sicko CC between them.