M81: A Night To Remember [SIGNUPS]

[President Eden]

Mechanic: Separated Dance Partners

A player is a “separated dance partner” when their partner is removed from the game, or if, at the start of the game, they are not assigned a dance partner (e.g., because there are an odd number of players). When a dance partner becomes separated, that player will be added to a new private Discord thread containing all other separated dance partners still in the game. Like other private threads, this thread is usable only at night.

Mechanic: Ghosts

When a player is removed from the game, instead of being added to spectator chat, that player will be added to a new private Discord thread containing all other players that have been removed from the game. Unlike other private threads in this game, the ghosts may communicate with each other in their thread at all times. A ghost may choose to “move on to the next world” by messaging the GM at any time; at the GM’s earliest convenience, that player will be turned into a spectator within the normal god chat.

Mechanic: Séance

Each night, each ghost may write a message to the GM to be conveyed to the Separated Dance Partners. The GM will collate all the messages in a random order and post them to the Separated Dance Partners thread at end of night. A ghost’s message is not to exceed 100 characters in length. If a message exceeds the character limit, only the first 100 characters will be sent. The message will also include the number of ghosts that chose to “move on to the next world” in the previous day/night cycle.

So the people no longer in dance chats get moved to a group chat, and the people who are dead get moved to an optional dead chat.

and the dead can talk to the people who have been seperated from their dance chats.

is that correct?

Correct. If there are an odd number of players, then one person starts “separated,” but will receive a partner (by way of then joining the “separated” chat) by the start of night 1 unless day 1 ends without a kill. Everyone else starts with a partner and moves to “separated” chat when their partner dies.

Ghost chat is separate from separated chat, but once per night the ghosts can each send one short message which will be aggregated and posted in separated chat at EON. I will provide an example of what that message might look like later today.

##Call GM:

Please define "pseudorandomly".

I will assign roles, and then I will assign each player a partner using the following procedure:

1. If there are an odd number of players, then I will select a player at random to start in separated chat.
2. One by one, for each mafia player, I will randomly assign a townie to be their partner.
3. All remaining players will be randomly assigned a partner from the remaining pool of players.

It is “pseudorandom” only insofar as each mafia player will have a town partner and no two mafia players will be partners, but otherwise it is random.

[President Eden]

Le sigh, much as I was hoping to play, I'm going to be out for a week in early July and out for a long weekend in mid-July. I guess sign me up as your part-time assistant, if you want, Eden.

I picked an arbitrary date somewhat far out to start, but my hope is that we will be able to start sooner. That said, the game will likely take two weeks to complete at a minimum. I will be happy to have an assistant if you don’t think you can commit to that timeframe though

[brainbomb]

is there a N0 chat or is the whole chat thing only relevant as of night 1

[brainbomb]

never mind I see the answer

[Kakarroto]

never mind I see the answer

I'm too lazy to look it up, so Mr. Eden, same question:

is there a N0 chat or is the whole chat thing only relevant as of night 1

[President Eden]

I envisioned all chats starting N1, but I’m open to N0 because that sounds more fun

[Fluminator]

Would people who sign up get to choose their dance partner?

[Jamiet99uk]

This game will be very weird.

What is to stop everyone mass-claiming who their dance partner is, in order to start significantly reducing the POE once flips start to mount up?

[Jamiet99uk]

What I mean is, if no pair is scum, then if there is a massclaim of partners, every time a Mafia is caught, that will also create one townclear.

Did the GM consider this?

[brainbomb]

What I mean is, if no pair is scum, then if there is a massclaim of partners, every time a Mafia is caught, that will also create one townclear.

Did the GM consider this?

with no town protective, and no PR, wouldnt mafia just always kill whoever is partners with a dead maf? its basically like vanilla PRs

[brainbomb]

that being said I can see how some players will instantly push for massclaiming who everyones dance partners are and then use that in some way to project best options mechanically for who best to try to clear. that is one advantage that the setup allows town in a game thats otherwise just mountainous with some side chats

[Jamiet99uk]

What I mean is, if no pair is scum, then if there is a massclaim of partners, every time a Mafia is caught, that will also create one townclear.

Did the GM consider this?

with no town protective, and no PR, wouldnt mafia just always kill whoever is partners with a dead maf? its basically like vanilla PRs

Yes but that forces Mafias kill which could be to their overall detriment.

[Kakarroto]

This game will be very weird.

What is to stop everyone mass-claiming who their dance partner is, in order to start significantly reducing the POE once flips start to mount up?

I was of the thought that all players are aware who is partnered with whom? Just that only their private chat is invisible to others.

If I misunderstood and this will not be known knowledge, then I'm sure there will be actions.

Also, I had some thoughts on how such a game might progress, but I shall not speak too much of it because I think that will be a fun factor during the game anyway. I think, however, that town would need to up their reading and prediction game.

[President Eden]

I’m going to limit some of my comments because I have ideas about how I think town and scum “should” play in this setup — but I think a lot of the fun y’all will have will be in the joy of discovery and working through the wrinkles it has to offer, and just giving out what I think are the answers to those questions will rob you of that joy.

I will address whether interactions are intended or unintended and will issue adjustments if needed.

What I mean is, if no pair is scum, then if there is a massclaim of partners, every time a Mafia is caught, that will also create one townclear.

Did the GM consider this?

This interaction is intended.

This game will be very weird.

What is to stop everyone mass-claiming who their dance partner is, in order to start significantly reducing the POE once flips start to mount up?

Partners will not be public knowledge at game start, but claiming your partner, fakeclaiming a different partner, etc. are all anticipated behaviors and are allowed within the rules. Partners will not be public knowledge at game start to allow partners who wish not to claim to proceed with that information unknown.

Would people who sign up get to choose their dance partner?

As noted earlier, partner assignments are random, notwithstanding that no dance partner pairing shall contain two mafia.

[Jamiet99uk]

This game will be very weird.

What is to stop everyone mass-claiming who their dance partner is, in order to start significantly reducing the POE once flips start to mount up?

I was of the thought that all players are aware who is partnered with whom? Just that only their private chat is invisible to others.

If I misunderstood and this will not be known knowledge, then I'm sure there will be actions.

Also, I had some thoughts on how such a game might progress, but I shall not speak too much of it because I think that will be a fun factor during the game anyway. I think, however, that town would need to up their reading and prediction game.

No I think you only know your *own* dance partner

[brainbomb]

regardless of alignment. because I hate players who cant solve a game without mech, I will not be massclaiming or advocating for any strategy. I will ignore any requests to do so and pretend I dont know whats even going on.

[brainbomb]

in light of there being night chats for all players is there any reason that the game thread cant finally be a closed chat night phase?

[brainbomb]

otherwise, theres no PR, so what does town have to chit chat about at night in a discord that they cant just do in game thread. like what is the purpose of the chats beyond just exchanging pleasantries.

[brainbomb]

from the Jamie and brain dance chat

brainbomb: hey jamie you still VT?

jamiet99uk: yep. you?

brainbomb: hey yea. so who do you scumread.

jamiet99uk: I just posted about it in game thread.

brainbomb: oh cool ill go read that instead

[President Eden]

otherwise, theres no PR, so what does town have to chit chat about at night in a discord that they cant just do in game thread. like what is the purpose of the chats beyond just exchanging pleasantries.

Your point here is well-taken. I’m gonna think about it and I guess open this up to others’ thoughts on the matter as well, but I’m inclined to close the game thread at night after thinking about your suggestion here.