MAFIA XXXVII: THE WHEEL OF WEB-TIME

[brainbomb]

73 : g=37&part=Night%202&user=Jamiet99uk
Jamiet99uk
Night-2 05:42
page 73 So let me explain about my unvote at close to EoD.

With 24 minutes to go, I unvoted, making it Teacher(7) vs Peterlund(7), a tie.

I did this on purpose, to cause a tie, to see who would react and who would jump around to prevent a tie. This can be very revealing.

To my surprise there was very little reaction. Fully 15 minutes went by before anyone moved their vote - this was Brainbomb moving from Peterlund to Teacher2. (Making it Teacher(8) vs Peterlund (6))

Then I voted for Peterlund who I considered just as likely as Teacher to be scum, at that point. (Teach(8) v Peter(7))

With just two minutes remaining, Vecna, who had been pushing Peterlund all day (and scumreading him from quite early on), started a brand new wagon on BismarkAlive, apparently due to Peter's Doc claim. Nobody joined him. (Teach(8) vs Peter(6) vs Bismark(1))

Then Brainbomb starts a new wagon on me. This almost caught the Teacher2 wagon.

Interesting, but not as interesting as I had hoped.

It does make me think Brainbomb is unlikely to be scum. He had clearly been willing to vote for Teacher, and I think his vote for me, after the PR claims, was genuine (although I am not scum).

A question:

@BRAINBOMB: A few hours before EoD, Bismark was in your "Scum Pool" and I was in your "Null Pool". Why, therefore, when Teacher and Peter both claimed PR, didn't you join Vecna's new Bismarck wagon?

[brainbomb]

Jamie never risks openly contradicting himself as town either.

Another strike

[dargorygel]

Vote Count 3.3
Worcej (5) damo666, bozotheclown, rdrivera2015, BismarckAlive
Brainbomb (3) Vecna, Jamiet99uk, flash2015
Jamiet99uk (2) peterlund, brainbomb
Damo666 (1) squiggs44
Squiggs44 (1) DoubtingThomas


0 endvotes
Presently, worcej is to be lynched
Many, many hours remain in the day; but a bit less than last time.
Everyone has posted.
Foxcastle has not issued a vote.
Most of you have not +1ed GMs.

[brainbomb]

Worcej is town. Youre making a mistake pushing worcej. Lynch me instead if you must

[Jamiet99uk]

73 : g=37&part=Night%202&user=Jamiet99uk
Jamiet99uk
Night-2 05:42
page 73 So let me explain about my unvote at close to EoD.

With 24 minutes to go, I unvoted, making it Teacher(7) vs Peterlund(7), a tie.

I did this on purpose, to cause a tie, to see who would react and who would jump around to prevent a tie. This can be very revealing.

To my surprise there was very little reaction. Fully 15 minutes went by before anyone moved their vote - this was Brainbomb moving from Peterlund to Teacher2. (Making it Teacher(8) vs Peterlund (6))

Then I voted for Peterlund who I considered just as likely as Teacher to be scum, at that point. (Teach(8) v Peter(7))

With just two minutes remaining, Vecna, who had been pushing Peterlund all day (and scumreading him from quite early on), started a brand new wagon on BismarkAlive, apparently due to Peter's Doc claim. Nobody joined him. (Teach(8) vs Peter(6) vs Bismark(1))

Then Brainbomb starts a new wagon on me. This almost caught the Teacher2 wagon.

Interesting, but not as interesting as I had hoped.

It does make me think Brainbomb is unlikely to be scum. He had clearly been willing to vote for Teacher, and I think his vote for me, after the PR claims, was genuine (although I am not scum).

A question:

@BRAINBOMB: A few hours before EoD, Bismark was in your "Scum Pool" and I was in your "Null Pool". Why, therefore, when Teacher and Peter both claimed PR, didn't you join Vecna's new Bismarck wagon?

That was during the Night phase, not at "Start of Day" as you claimed.

You've just proved you were lying.

[brainbomb]

73 : g=37&part=Night%202&user=Jamiet99uk
Jamiet99uk
Night-2 05:42
page 73 So let me explain about my unvote at close to EoD.

With 24 minutes to go, I unvoted, making it Teacher(7) vs Peterlund(7), a tie.

I did this on purpose, to cause a tie, to see who would react and who would jump around to prevent a tie. This can be very revealing.

To my surprise there was very little reaction. Fully 15 minutes went by before anyone moved their vote - this was Brainbomb moving from Peterlund to Teacher2. (Making it Teacher(8) vs Peterlund (6))

Then I voted for Peterlund who I considered just as likely as Teacher to be scum, at that point. (Teach(8) v Peter(7))

With just two minutes remaining, Vecna, who had been pushing Peterlund all day (and scumreading him from quite early on), started a brand new wagon on BismarkAlive, apparently due to Peter's Doc claim. Nobody joined him. (Teach(8) vs Peter(6) vs Bismark(1))

Then Brainbomb starts a new wagon on me. This almost caught the Teacher2 wagon.

Interesting, but not as interesting as I had hoped.

It does make me think Brainbomb is unlikely to be scum. He had clearly been willing to vote for Teacher, and I think his vote for me, after the PR claims, was genuine (although I am not scum).

A question:

@BRAINBOMB: A few hours before EoD, Bismark was in your "Scum Pool" and I was in your "Null Pool". Why, therefore, when Teacher and Peter both claimed PR, didn't you join Vecna's new Bismarck wagon?

That was during the Night phase, not at "Start of Day" as you claimed.

You've just proved you were lying.

You cant be serious that youre going to try to run from your 180 by deflection. This is an absolute deflection which youd never resort to as town

[damo666]

So why is he self voting? To protect PR?

[brainbomb]

Misremembering timing of your 180 doesnt change that its a 180 you backpedalled from with stated reasoning. Reasoning you blatantly abandoned for an opportunistic reach on my slot

This isnt how town jamie operates

[damo666]

##vote VECNA

[brainbomb]

Jamie are you going to FINAL ANSWER that ive deliberately claimed you townread me in the day when it was actually at night, therefore im misrepresenting your 180?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Brainbomb:

1. Since the quotes you posted which were in the middle of last night, not during the current day as you lied about, Vecna made a detailed case on you, and I stated that I found it persuasive. If you want to get my vote off you, do two things - answer my questions, and provide a detailed rebuttal to Vecna's case.

2. I've proved that you're a liar. Why are you lying to push a lynch on me? I assume you're just going back to your personal out-of-game hatred of me. Sad.

[flash2015]

You forgot the exclamation point.

[Jamiet99uk]

[brainbomb]

On behalf of my scum brothers I wanna apologize for deliberately misrepresenting Jamiet99uk mcburgersteins flip flopping.

In future games as scum I will always try to accurately time stamp all Jamie flip flops and preface them with footnotes and supplemental bible verses

[brainbomb]

@Brainbomb:

1. Since the quotes you posted which were in the middle of last night, not during the current day as you lied about, Vecna made a detailed case on you, and I stated that I found it persuasive. If you want to get my vote off you, do two things - answer my questions, and provide a detailed rebuttal to Vecna's case.

2. I've proved that you're a liar. Why are you lying to push a lynch on me? I assume you're just going back to your personal out-of-game hatred of me. Sad.

Oh okay so youre sheeping opportunistically?
Also not like Jamie to follow others opinions youve solidly gravitated away from.

[rdrivera2005]

I don't know what to do with Worcej claiming to be VT fake crumbing to be a PR.

##unvote

[brainbomb]

Jamie is one of the most meticulously, belaboring attention to detail oriented hamsters on this website.

He picks tiny parts of players posts and fixates upon them. But one thing he absolutely never does as town is rapidly change his mind back and forth.

He never flip flops as town
He never forms an opinion worth posting and then unprompted reverse position

He never carries himself as a jokester and dishonest.

[dargorygel]

Vote Count 3.4
Worcej (3) bozotheclown, BismarckAlive, worcej
Brainbomb (3) Vecna, Jamiet99uk, flash2015
Jamiet99uk (2) peterlund, brainbomb
Damo666 (1) squiggs44
Squiggs44 (1) DoubtingThomas
Vecna (1) damo666
Unvote (1) rdrivera2015


0 endvotes
Presently, the lynch line is empty.
Many, many hours remain in the day; but a bit less than last time.
Everyone has posted.
Foxcastle has not issued a vote.
Most of you have still not +1ed GMs.

[flash2015]

##CALL GM What is in it for me if I +1 your posts?

[Vecna]

On behalf of my scum brothers I wanna apologize for deliberately misrepresenting Jamiet99uk mcburgersteins flip flopping.

In future games as scum I will always try to accurately time stamp all Jamie flip flops and preface them with footnotes and supplemental bible verses

I find your flipflopping on PeterLund and Teacher way more damning.

Youre still just trying to create a distraction.