Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD

[Tom Bombadil]

Tom, I kind of get where you're coming from with the "posted without substance angle", but I literally just proved what would happen if I used that logic on someone without reading the thread. I'd get called out on it, just like I called you out on saying that about LQ, Jamie, and EMC.

Lol. Comparing it to not explaining my townreads is a stretch. I’m not trying to kill me townreads - there is a little less urgency there. If you actually were invested in driving a lynch, you would offer more than “posted lots little substance” is what I’m getting at.

[thdfrance]

This is the second game in the last few I've played where I've been put on the block for low involvement D1...the last time this happened it was a scum lead lynch. Is it possible this is happening again?

There are others in the game with involvement just as low as mine, why me?

wahhhh

dude you got 3 posts. In a vacuum you have low activity, if you don't want to get lynched then try to play the game

and I'm not even pushing for your lynch rn today but it still looks bad

(wolf chat ping?)

This is...very fair

[MoscowFleet]

@ezio I'm still waiting for a response to this:

Why you got such a boner for me, Tom? You asked me some fair questions and I answered them, but all you responded with is that my responses seem "empty" and my reads "hollow". How you call my reads hollow and then go ahead and post these reads are beyond me:



You've also seemed wholly fixated on me so far, I don't think you've mentioned any other scumreads. Hell, you apparently scumread me but haven't been all too clear on why. Maybe because you know that historically I've been easy to get a wagon going on?

Moscow stop being wrong about verifiable things. Tom has made posts about other people, and has used good reasoning. You just think he's only focused in you because you're only paying attention to what references you.
That's a shit way to play the game as town.

That's complete bullshit, Ezio. Please point me to Tom's 'good reasoning' behind his other scumreads. Also go back and read his posts if you want to see exactly how obsessed he's been with me.

[LordQuas]

I hope to be on to read arguments close to EOD. But the most scummy to me right now is crimsonfox. Day one seems falsely involved
I don't like ND s weirdness but it doesn't seem ai. I am suspicious of mf but more of cf. Hope to be back but if not ##vote crimson

In response to LordQuas' post just before this; You really dont feel this type of posting is exactly the way Darg was last game?

Because I do. And this type of post fits pretty nicely in a THD + darg type of team (or darg+ND type of team, ignoring the other wagon for some reason).

Darg, why Crimson over THD? Crimson has provided a ton of content, cant you like, come up with a reason why he has to go?

I really don't. Darg last game pinged the fuck outta me with the constant "oh I'm busy I'll bbl" stuff

here they subbed in and got right to work. They give zero fucks about what you're saying about them. Here's some reads, and bam go I'm busy

much more my style

[Vecna]

Also, like I said previously I definitely have not been a fan of how Crimson has been playing. But jfc look at that wagon, five big lurkers. He's the leading Lynch candidate by 5 guys who have barely participated. That doesn't really sit well with me and is strange as fuck.

Also checking in on ND... since I posted about his scummy as shit behaviour and voted him, all he has posted is this:

Probably won't me on at end methinks plus I'm several pages back but I'll hold my vote

Double down on ##vote ND

I really like this post, ##Vote ND honestly a fine wagon and I'm going to give up on my off wagon this close to EoD since nobody wants to get spicy with me. There's a lot of people on one vote wagons still so we'll see how it develops

Sad you lean going this way on the top3 wagons. Not sure how much its worth to you, but from playing with ND quite a bit id strongly consider this to be his town game over his scum game.

Id even prefer a Cfox wagon, flip expectation wise, although I wanna keep him around if only for entertainment value.

THD,Bozo,Ike, Thamrick maybe even Peter or Darg....these all feel like so much better wagons right now.

[Vaporwave]

Btw is anyone else curious about bomb's theory on Ecna?

voted him a while ago but then he vanished

bomb in latest posts votes for france

[ghug]

again I'm not saying wolves NEVER do things that hurt their image or town NEVER care about it

but wolves do care MORE about it since in base form that is their most important desire, they don't especially have to worry about finding other wolves

it's also why in multiballs it's so much harder to catch wolves since they're able to focus on actually finding and not just imitate it

I don't think it's true here. People knows each other metas, on Máfia and ondip and on forum, so if you are a confrontational guy you can't just avoid conflict when you are scum. And beginners tend to worry a lot about his own image even when town, it takes time to dippers understand it's a team game.

Anyone wanting to ##vote Flash with me? Demon improved a bit and I don't feel I want to lynch him anymore.

There's also the fact that a good town player has motivation to manage their image to see if others react how they'd expect.

[ghug]

Ezio's vote was allegedly even on accident based on how that was worded. And he really hasn't had anything good. I also hate his intro about how he would totally vote cfox if he wasn't sure it would kill him from vengeful town as a result

which implies that he thinks cfox is town...

uhhHHHHHH

##Vote Ezio

It's a joke about how Ezio always gets shot. He said he wanted to no lynch so that nobody could shoot him.

[thamrick]

@thdfrance - what about the case on Crimson has your vote on him? Or is it just self pres at this point?

[Vecna]

but solving because you want people to think you look good is not pro town

town tend to care about their image a lot less then wolves

No. That is false and you are a bad player if you think that and base your play on that assumption. It's shockingly common and I've had this argument before.
Why would town care less about being lynched than scum?

because villagers are actually hunting, or at least they're supposed to be

wolves literally care about nothing besides surviving, that is their main goal. It's why you see players like jamie, dt, bb, and me, not flaming or being as grating compared to the rest of you if we rand a wolf because we're aware people don't like us if we spit truth

disagree all you want but it's true for anyone who actually goes against the grain as a villager ever

Jamiet is very well known for imitating his town play to a large degree and getting in fake fights to get people to make the wrong meta conclusions.

[e.m.c^42]

I will say that I still have no concrete idea on who to vote, all the arguments make sense one way or the other to someone who doesn't have a strong opinion T-T

and Quas, Vapor, I'm not rude because there's no point to be. It doesn't come naturally for me, and more importantly: it's incredibly easy faking anger on the internet, so don't see how you can read it by itself as anything, when almost all the emotions here are exaggerated. What emotion, and to what, sure.

[Tom Bombadil]

Shoot. I thought deadline was 6pm eastern...

I’ve got a 4:30 meeting. Staying on Moscow unless someone wows me. thd is the best lynch of Nd, CF and thd though.

I’ll count on y’all for EOD shenanigans to get some info

[Vaporwave]

Same Vecna, there's nothing palpable townie about Cfox but the more he posts the more I got a carefree vibe, his gifs were funny at times

keeping him for entertainment might not be an orthodox reason, but I agree with that

[MoscowFleet]

I really dislike the top 2 wagons right now. Ordinarily I'd be willing to lynch CF because as I said earlier he's been obfuscating, and I think deliberately. However, all 6 of his voters have barely participated/made any effort. Makes this pretty bullshit imo.

And I cannot find a good reason to vote for thd, nor have I seen anyone else present one. Especially surprised at Vecna and Jamie voting there.

@Vecna @Jamie why thd exactly?

[thamrick]

Shoot. I thought deadline was 6pm eastern...

I’ve got a 4:30 meeting. Staying on Moscow unless someone wows me. thd is the best lynch of Nd, CF and thd though.

I’ll count on y’all for EOD shenanigans to get some info

Booooo to staying on a non-existent wagon

[thdfrance]

I'm going to ##unvote at risk of my own demise. I didn't have a strong reason to vote for Crimson in the first place. The early votes on him that are still in play (peter, ezio) don't make sense to me and only look to be half serious.

Day 1 I think our best bet to find scum is to look at the middle of the pack voters that start to get wagons rolling,

On the Crimson wagon that's - flash, bozo, maybe peter.

On me that's - DoubtingThomas, brainbomb, venca, ND

[LordQuas]

Ezio's vote was allegedly even on accident based on how that was worded. And he really hasn't had anything good. I also hate his intro about how he would totally vote cfox if he wasn't sure it would kill him from vengeful town as a result

which implies that he thinks cfox is town...

uhhHHHHHH

##Vote Ezio

It's a joke about how Ezio always gets shot. He said he wanted to no lynch so that nobody could shoot him.

well you didn't read my or Ezio's posts as he said he wasn't going to vote Cfox as a result

like he took that seriously

and he's ignored cfox ever since

[LordQuas]

No. That is false and you are a bad player if you think that and base your play on that assumption. It's shockingly common and I've had this argument before.
Why would town care less about being lynched than scum?

because villagers are actually hunting, or at least they're supposed to be

wolves literally care about nothing besides surviving, that is their main goal. It's why you see players like jamie, dt, bb, and me, not flaming or being as grating compared to the rest of you if we rand a wolf because we're aware people don't like us if we spit truth

disagree all you want but it's true for anyone who actually goes against the grain as a villager ever

Jamiet is very well known for imitating his town play to a large degree and getting in fake fights to get people to make the wrong meta conclusions.

thanks for saying exactly what I did in that post

[MoscowFleet]

Damn, Tom. Thought I would've gotten an answer to my question before you were able to talk to Ezio about how you want to play this

[Ezio]

@ezio I'm still waiting for a response to this:

Moscow stop being wrong about verifiable things. Tom has made posts about other people, and has used good reasoning. You just think he's only focused in you because you're only paying attention to what references you.
That's a shit way to play the game as town.

That's complete bullshit, Ezio. Please point me to Tom's 'good reasoning' behind his other scumreads. Also go back and read his posts if you want to see exactly how obsessed he's been with me.

I did reply. I said "the onus is on you buddy"