Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

[ghug]

Yeah Szpoti, any scumreads? [No is a valid answer seeing as I don't]

Any townreads?

Please give us some thoughts before yo go.

How are so many of you actually voting for this guy when he says shit like this?

[damo666]

Why is it shit?

Why are so offensive?

[flash2015]

Wow, this is quiet. MOAR drama!

I am almost missing the BB chaos...

[bo_sox48]

actually my eye twitched a little when i read he thought bo was a more expected night kill than me, but it IS ragingike and he doesn't really understand things

I'm so much better than you stop this

[bo_sox48]

Okay nothing has happened, neat.

##VOTE Ike

[ghug]

Wow, this is quiet. MOAR drama!

I am almost missing the BB chaos...

##VOTE flash

I recall you actually thinking about the game. Why are you not doing that here?

[damo666]

Why is it so quiet?

[ghug]

Why is it shit?

Why are so offensive?

That was shit as a neutral descriptor. I can't see scum being so brazen about not having scumreads.

I do not know why are so offensive.

[damo666]

Okay nothing has happened, neat.

##VOTE Ike

Same reasoning as mine or something different?

[bo_sox48]

Okay nothing has happened, neat.

##VOTE Ike

Same reasoning as mine or something different?

I don't know offhand what your reasoning was.

His interaction with ghug early on on day 1 screams out to me as someone who wants to be left alone to his own devices. If you're going to hide, then hide, but I want you hiding in plain sight where I can see you. If you're going to hide by cowering and being offended that someone asks you bad questions, I'm going to get you lynched. That's my reasoning.

That said, I can attest that he was at his work yesterday until 3 AM at best and quite possibly later into the night. I'm not expecting tons out of him over the weekends. His job just doesn't allow for that. What we get out of him, though, should be more than weakly answering bad questions and whining about it and so far it really hasn't been.

[RagingIke297]

Okay nothing has happened, neat.

##VOTE Ike

Same reasoning as mine or something different?

I don't know offhand what your reasoning was.

His interaction with ghug early on on day 1 screams out to me as someone who wants to be left alone to his own devices. If you're going to hide, then hide, but I want you hiding in plain sight where I can see you. If you're going to hide by cowering and being offended that someone asks you bad questions, I'm going to get you lynched. That's my reasoning.

That said, I can attest that he was at his work yesterday until 3 AM at best and quite possibly later into the night. I'm not expecting tons out of him over the weekends. His job just doesn't allow for that. What we get out of him, though, should be more than weakly answering bad questions and whining about it and so far it really hasn't been.

I've made multiple attempts to talk about the box, info gained and what's lost from claiming early, strategies to circumvent the negatives, but no one seems to want to talk about it. Damo, Bo, would either of you like to discuss?

[ND]

What's the point in discussing the box. We need to be discussing scum and it's quiet af.

Damo is still my best scum read but flash is a second.

[ghug]

What's the point in discussing the box. We need to be discussing scum and it's quiet af.

Quoting ND for truth.

ND, given damo is an established wagon, what do you say to giving flash some pressure with me?

[RagingIke297]

What's the point in discussing the box. We need to be discussing scum and it's quiet af.

Damo is still my best scum read but flash is a second.

Because the box could be instrumental in helping town get info or be used to block night kills?

[damo666]

I thinkt there was enough discussion regarding the box and the conclusion was that it is in town's best interests not to claim.

I don't know how I can change ND's opinion of me but I do agree with him that we should be scum hunting.

I am down to 196 possible scumteams lol!

[flash2015]

What's the point in discussing the box. We need to be discussing scum and it's quiet af.

Damo is still my best scum read but flash is a second.

Explain to me why I am on your scum list.

[flash2015]

What's the point in discussing the box. We need to be discussing scum and it's quiet af.

Quoting ND for truth.

ND, given damo is an established wagon, what do you say to giving flash some pressure with me?

Trying to setup a second mislynch after your first was so successful? ##VOTE ghug

[RagingIke297]

Well, that is definitely an interesting kill choice.

NKing Tom was "unexpected" to say the least. Tom was lame far below my own expectations of him. I cannot see that there was any reason to fear kill him in this game. **Snipped**

Tom being the nk is also bizarre. Doesn't make sense.

No roleblock claim?

I understand Tom is from a "pool of excellent mafia player," but I expected to see a NK of one of the more active from the pool... I suppose that can get into WIFOM when you consider the doctor... but I am still a little surprised if its a NK/RB combo on Tom.

Why are so many people talking about Tom being a weird/suprising/unexpected night kill? Seems of all those voicing opinions, no one besides me thought it had a decent probability to happen. Are people just playing dumb here and/or trying to play down the Tom kill? To me it seemed like Tom was intentionally trying to not draw attention to himself which would prompt scum to take a shot on him being a PR.





Also the calculation at the end of this is wrong:

Fair point. Possible all leading wagons were town hence the confusion.

-snip-

I can't believe anyone actually believes this.

##vote Damo

Well DrCJG does for one.

What's so implausibe about it? thdfrance flipped town, I know I'm town and on pure numbers DemonRHK has a 14/19 chance of being town

If you know you're town then on pure numbers RHK has a 13/18 chance of being town...

[damo666]

Yes 13/18. Thanks for the correction RagingIke.

[bo_sox48]

I've made multiple attempts to talk about the box, info gained and what's lost from claiming early, strategies to circumvent the negatives, but no one seems to want to talk about it. Damo, Bo, would either of you like to discuss?

As has been said, talking about the box doesn't equate to catching scum.

Most of the conversation you had regarding the box strikes me as insincere to begin with. Here is my favorite example from page 5.

This is assuming that the person holding the box isn't scum and scum actually want to target whoever is holding the box. However it's something we need to look into more, who benefits more from knowing? Scum could try to target box holders, but then box holders get to direct kills.... hmmm

What does this conversation that you still want to have about the box 40 pages and 96 hours later actually do for us?

I see very little scumhunting from you thus far despite your early activity, presence at the EOD, and presence here now. You seemed to scumread DrCJG, which is great. Why? You said that you didn't want to vote him on day 1 because you wanted to consolidate wagons. Why aren't you leading off day 2 with your scumread instead of only showing up because people called you out?