Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

[brainbomb]

whats the logic behind voting food then?

Why did you think pirates was voting food, the vote at the time was on sweet.

It reads like you trusted food and didnt understand why pirate would be voting food there. Am I correct? Or did you mean to type sweet?

didnt I correct that in the post after?

but yeah it was meant to say someone else if i remember correctly

No. it was not addressed according to your ISO. who was that someone else?

It cant be food because you seemed concerned back that pirates was voting food, and now you have food as a scumread. So if it was food, there is no evidence of a progression of going from concern to suspicion wrt food.

[worcej]

Alright Balki let's fight.

##VOTE Balki

##vote Balki

100% onboard with this wagon

[Balki Bartokomous]

Let my tombstone read:

Didn't give anyone a pass on Day 1

[Vecna]

I am cool with foodcoats or Damo.

I'm suspicious of Vecna.

The Bona wagon seems to be a reaction to his style. There are differing views on whether this is "just how he always is" or it's some scumtell. I don't really feel like I can weigh in on that intelligently, so I'm just going to kind of ignore the wagon. I don't really want to vote there.

Anyone else want to sell me something?

Youre just being overly suspicious of being buddied.

As much as I disliked the servile comment, im pretty much convinced youre town because of it though.

##vote foodcoats

lets go

As weak as Worcej's defense was, the humorous look at his prospects of getting speedwagoned did not feel particularly panicky.

[brainbomb]

##Vote Vecna

[Bonatogether]

six 2 vote wagons, including a 2 unvote wagon


cringe?

[Bonatogether]

the people need to get their stuff together

[Vecna]

Why did you think pirates was voting food, the vote at the time was on sweet.

It reads like you trusted food and didnt understand why pirate would be voting food there. Am I correct? Or did you mean to type sweet?

didnt I correct that in the post after?

but yeah it was meant to say someone else if i remember correctly

No. it was not addressed according to your ISO. who was that someone else?

It cant be food because you seemed concerned back that pirates was voting food, and now you have food as a scumread. So if it was food, there is no evidence of a progression of going from concern to suspicion wrt food.

it was meant to say sweet. i thought i corrected it, but it was pirates himself that already did.

[rdrivera2005]

##vote Worcej

Im not completely convinced I should disregard the brainbomb slot entirely, but his little joyfull moments at my expense are probably more likely to come from town.

Bunny/Worcej/Foodcoats/HB are all people I want to vote.

I really don't get this list. Why Bunny and HB? They look towny to me.

How on earth does HB look towny to anyone? I heard 1 person say they sound happy, and thats the only reasoning I heard so far.

Ive talked about the bunny read in-depth. Dude was way too fast to pass off a TR on me just because I pointed out he missed a single post number. Then he sheeped me twice on scummy people, in such a way as he set them up for justifiable future votes. Then he used another overly simplistic reason to TR me later on. All felt very artificial to me, but im sure its one of those occasions where you only notice it if it involves you.

I tend to think Bunny doing this kind of antics is more likely town then scum , but of course it can be faked. Agree that setting possible votes could be scum keeping his options open, but I will need to re-read to look at this as I skipped some pages last night and I am barely keeping updated today.

[sweetandcool]

Could you point me a game where Damo was helpful on D1? This post and vote is completely odd for you.

Seconding this - Damo is normally not a driver of any sort on D1, but will lurk and ensure he doesn't die as any alignment

This is such a ridiculous piece of conventional wisdom and accepted norm on this site. Y'all should kill people who aren't helping and aren't expressing. Don't give people a pass for it.

Ridiculous, I say.

I think forcing people to play "your way" is disgusting. Homogeneity is boring.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Seconding this - Damo is normally not a driver of any sort on D1, but will lurk and ensure he doesn't die as any alignment

This is such a ridiculous piece of conventional wisdom and accepted norm on this site. Y'all should kill people who aren't helping and aren't expressing. Don't give people a pass for it.

Ridiculous, I say.

I think forcing people to play "your way" is disgusting. Homogeneity is boring.

It's not clear if you are calling me disgusting or someone else.

If you are calling me disgusting, then LOL.

I certainly am not "forcing people to play my way." I am sorting and voting based on who seems to be doing the things that help my team, and who does not.

But I kind of want to die for this, so please make me a martyr.

[Jamiet99uk]

In theory, but the act of (a) random voting, and (b) endvoting, and (c) declaring that he would not post again, did not come across as towny.

To be clear I do not care about any of what you just said. I consider all of that to be completely meaningless data. Thats just webdip, and its not even compelling talking points about webdip.

Now, I fully trust that these are things you care about. In fact as both alignments you would care about them. But please, understand I dont find those actions scummy other than MAYBE he did it because last scum game he talked too much and wanted to coast. but thats as far as I got and I think sweet is alot more of a stoke the goat type as town, and this fits the bill of doing something reaction inducing and it did that.

Brainbomb is town.

[brainbomb]

Helping and expressing are subjected.
Fake Helping and Fake Expressing are harder to spot but are more net harmful and clogging than lack of helping and lack of expressing.

If you want lack of expressed reads, progressions, ideas, and reasoning: kill sparta

If you want to go for fluffly people who have fake reasoning or potentially fake overtures of helping town, the list is bigger and is more prone to error:

Vecna is pretty clearly mafia here and is alot more visibily desperate to find a place to get away with voting this game than in previous games. He wants someone easy to pick off, and keeps running into messes every place he tries to go

[Jamiet99uk]

#CALL GM

May I replaced? I do not have the time anymore to be following a mafia game.

Town.

Incorrect analysis method - NAI imho

It's funny because normally if someone wants to sub out, lots of people want to scum them.

[Jamiet99uk]

no but i need to stay under the so-called post-cap

It's a post limit, not a word limit.

You are allowed multiple sentences in the same post.

yawn

Open your mouth wider, we can all see how sharp your teeth are.

[sweetandcool]

This is such a ridiculous piece of conventional wisdom and accepted norm on this site. Y'all should kill people who aren't helping and aren't expressing. Don't give people a pass for it.

Ridiculous, I say.

I think forcing people to play "your way" is disgusting. Homogeneity is boring.

It's not clear if you are calling me disgusting or someone else.

If you are calling me disgusting, then LOL.

I certainly am not "forcing people to play my way." I am sorting and voting based on who seems to be doing the things that help my team, and who does not.

But I kind of want to die for this, so please make me a martyr.

Your behavior. You did this last game too. I do not appreciate you strongarming players into playing the way you want them to play.

Anyways, you are on my "do not vore" list for now.

[Balki Bartokomous]

It's funny because normally if someone wants to sub out, lots of people want to scum them.

Yeah, but asking here in this thread as a newish player. Feels very town to me.

[Jamiet99uk]

So now that postcap isnt an issue, can you explain how you feel abt it or say what you gotta say? Thx

Liking Will's pressure on Bonbonbonbona here

he literally didn't push me on anything except for how i feel about 'it'

it's all image

Exactly one of you is town.

I think it's him.

[Spartaculous]

GM Note:
brainbomb has replaced DrFidelis

Thanks brainbomb for filling in on short notice!

[ghug]

EoD is at 1??

##VOTE worcej