Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1481 Post by damo666 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:39 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:52 pm
HYPOTHETICAL COP REVEAL PLAN
Putting it here in one place, because I want this settled going into night phase.

ALL TOWN AT END OF NIGHT
Please disclose an actual visit target (if you are a PR) or a fake visit target (if you are not a PR) as close to EOD as possible. We’re talking about the very last minute, so it will not impact scum night actions. If you cannot be around in the last, say 10 minutes of the night phase, then maybe just skip the EON post, and tell us who you visited after day start. We’d prefer to have an EON post to help us catch Judge Fear if and when he pops someone.

You can word your claim something like this: “If I were Cop, I’d visit X.”

ALL TOWN AT START OF DAY

You can word your claim something like this: “If I were Cop, I would have visited X and returned TRUE/FALSE.”

If You Were Role Blocked
Tell the thread you were Role Blocked, whether or not you are a PR. Obviously in this case, you have no scan to report, real or fake.

If you have a VT or Doctor PM, this is what you do:
Reveal a random result of your scan. Either result is fine. We are not going to pay attention to the results until you flip or until PRs are out in the open.

If you have a Generic Cop PM, this is what you do:
If your scan is INNOCENT, say scan is TRUE
If your scan is GUILTY, say scan is FALSE
Meaning for later:
Addictive Cop: a True scan likely found town, and a guilty scan likely found scum (but see possible manipulations of Doctor and other)
Macho Cop: a True scan likely found town and a guilty scan likely found scum (but see possible manipulation from PA Angel)
Naïve Cop: a True scan means only that PA Angel didn’t visit. A False scan means only that PA Angel did visit. Says nothing about target.

If you have a Methodical Cop PM, this is what you do:
If your scan is INNOCENT, say scan is FALSE
If your scan is GUILTY, say scan is TRUE
NOTE THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN GHUG’S PLAN
Meaning for later:
A True scan most likely found scum (only exception is PA Angel visit), and a False scan most likely found Town.

If you have a Parity Cop PM, this is what you do:
On the first night, tell us your real target, but provide a random result (TRUE OR FALSE, doesn’t matter). On the second night, and on all subsequent nights, if your scan is SAME, say scan is TRUE. If your scan is NOT SAME, say scan is FALSE.

If you have a Vanilla Cop PM, this is what you do:
If your scan is VANILLA, say scan is TRUE
If your scan is NOT VANILLA, say scan is FALSE
Meaning for later:
A True scan most likely found a Vanilla Town. A True scan could also possibly be on Junior Angel, if Junior Angel is in the game, or could be the result of PA Angel visit. False most likely means not Vanilla Town and not Junior Angel.

If you have an SJS Cop PM, this is what you do:
If your scan is Cop, say scan is TRUE
If your scan is NOT COP, say scan is FALSE
Meaning for later:
A True scan found a Cop or Judge, absent Angel visit. A False scan found an Angel, absent PA Angel visit.

If you have a Psychic Cop PM, this is what you do:
If your scan is DARK, say scan is TRUE
If your scan is NOT DARK, say scan is FALSE
Meaning for later:
a True scan likely found a Judge, absent visit from PA Angel. False scan means target is not a Judge, absent PA Angel visit.

People who have signed off so far:
(I'm sure there are others, but these are the one's I recall)
1. Balki
2. ghug
3. dargotygel
4. foodcoats
5. Diplomacy&Warfare
6. JustAGuyNamedWill
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
OK now is the time to discuss this plan.

I haven't been through with a fine-tooth comb but on a readthrough it seems OK however a couple of observations:

It is unrealistic to expect people to submit last minute of night (by all means do so if you can but I suspect you'd be lucky to get 50%). As close as possible to SOD is fine but please bear in mind that for those of us in Europe that's 10 or 11pm. So missing EON probably means being absent for say the first 10 or so hours of day. Can't be helped.

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1482 Post by sweetandcool » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:39 pm

Now the real fun begins. Any cops who think I am a baddie will want to scan me. But if I am the Judge that kills visitors then that is a very bad idea.

I suggest that the real cops focus on town clearing players. Probably players that are kind of middling.

Of course, I am fine being scanned since I am just VT.

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1483 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:41 pm

sweetandcool wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:39 pm
Now the real fun begins. Any cops who think I am a baddie will want to scan me. But if I am the Judge that kills visitors then that is a very bad idea.

I suggest that the real cops focus on town clearing players. Probably players that are kind of middling.

Of course, I am fine being scanned since I am just VT.
??

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#1484 Post by sweetandcool » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:42 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:41 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:39 pm
Now the real fun begins. Any cops who think I am a baddie will want to scan me. But if I am the Judge that kills visitors then that is a very bad idea.

I suggest that the real cops focus on town clearing players. Probably players that are kind of middling.

Of course, I am fine being scanned since I am just VT.
??
Just hoping to dissuade the cops from wasting their time scanning me. Particularly it would be regrettable if more than one did, since that would be a waste.

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#1485 Post by damo666 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:43 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:30 pm
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:30 pm
I expect there to be one kill today

And more and we flip damo/sweet/food/DrFid
Ah, the old "one person voted for this person so they must be scum".
Isn't he just saying if there is more than one NK one of the four must be MMA?

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#1486 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:44 pm

sweetandcool wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:42 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:41 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:39 pm
Now the real fun begins. Any cops who think I am a baddie will want to scan me. But if I am the Judge that kills visitors then that is a very bad idea.

I suggest that the real cops focus on town clearing players. Probably players that are kind of middling.

Of course, I am fine being scanned since I am just VT.
??
Just hoping to dissuade the cops from wasting their time scanning me. Particularly it would be regrettable if more than one did, since that would be a waste.
???

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#1487 Post by damo666 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:46 pm

@snowy why are sequentially "?"ing sweet's posts?

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#1488 Post by damo666 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:47 pm

Just realised

"Judge ghug" has a certain kind of ring to it.

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#1489 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:51 pm

Missed EOD, thought it was in 10 minutes. Sorry.

Can't figure out why Hamilton. Won't read all EOD, so if someone want to enlighten me I will appreciate.

I also agree with Balki/whoever plan.

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#1490 Post by DiplomacyandWarfare » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:52 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:52 pm
HYPOTHETICAL COP REVEAL PLAN
Putting it here in one place, because I want this settled going into night phase.

ALL TOWN AT END OF NIGHT
Please disclose an actual visit target (if you are a PR) or a fake visit target (if you are not a PR) as close to EOD as possible. We’re talking about the very last minute, so it will not impact scum night actions. If you cannot be around in the last, say 10 minutes of the night phase, then maybe just skip the EON post, and tell us who you visited after day start. We’d prefer to have an EON post to help us catch Judge Fear if and when he pops someone.

You can word your claim something like this: “If I were Cop, I’d visit X.”

ALL TOWN AT START OF DAY

You can word your claim something like this: “If I were Cop, I would have visited X and returned TRUE/FALSE.”

If You Were Role Blocked
Tell the thread you were Role Blocked, whether or not you are a PR. Obviously in this case, you have no scan to report, real or fake.

If you have a VT or Doctor PM, this is what you do:
Reveal a random result of your scan. Either result is fine. We are not going to pay attention to the results until you flip or until PRs are out in the open.

If you have a Generic Cop PM, this is what you do:
If your scan is INNOCENT, say scan is TRUE
If your scan is GUILTY, say scan is FALSE
Meaning for later:
Addictive Cop: a True scan likely found town, and a guilty scan likely found scum (but see possible manipulations of Doctor and other)
Macho Cop: a True scan likely found town and a guilty scan likely found scum (but see possible manipulation from PA Angel)
Naïve Cop: a True scan means only that PA Angel didn’t visit. A False scan means only that PA Angel did visit. Says nothing about target.

If you have a Methodical Cop PM, this is what you do:
If your scan is INNOCENT, say scan is FALSE
If your scan is GUILTY, say scan is TRUE
NOTE THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN GHUG’S PLAN
Meaning for later:
A True scan most likely found scum (only exception is PA Angel visit), and a False scan most likely found Town.

If you have a Parity Cop PM, this is what you do:
On the first night, tell us your real target, but provide a random result (TRUE OR FALSE, doesn’t matter). On the second night, and on all subsequent nights, if your scan is SAME, say scan is TRUE. If your scan is NOT SAME, say scan is FALSE.

If you have a Vanilla Cop PM, this is what you do:
If your scan is VANILLA, say scan is TRUE
If your scan is NOT VANILLA, say scan is FALSE
Meaning for later:
A True scan most likely found a Vanilla Town. A True scan could also possibly be on Junior Angel, if Junior Angel is in the game, or could be the result of PA Angel visit. False most likely means not Vanilla Town and not Junior Angel.

If you have an SJS Cop PM, this is what you do:
If your scan is Cop, say scan is TRUE
If your scan is NOT COP, say scan is FALSE
Meaning for later:
A True scan found a Cop or Judge, absent Angel visit. A False scan found an Angel, absent PA Angel visit.

If you have a Psychic Cop PM, this is what you do:
If your scan is DARK, say scan is TRUE
If your scan is NOT DARK, say scan is FALSE
Meaning for later:
a True scan likely found a Judge, absent visit from PA Angel. False scan means target is not a Judge, absent PA Angel visit.

People who have signed off so far:
(I'm sure there are others, but these are the one's I recall)
1. Balki
2. ghug
3. dargotygel
4. foodcoats
5. Diplomacy&Warfare
6. JustAGuyNamedWill
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
I did not sign off on this because the true-false system does not work well. I would advise we put all scans suggesting the target is scum (Dark from Psychic cop, Guilty from normal cop, etc) on the same True/False result. This (without my modification) may work better because the scum won't instantly know who the real cops are from seeing the cops scan the scum as Guilty, which we should absolutely discuss further, but I have not signed off on this for now.

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#1491 Post by worcej » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:54 pm

Totally thought EOD was in 6 minutes…

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#1492 Post by ND » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:54 pm

Why didn't people vote for DrFidelis lol. What's the reason for Ham? Bizarre.

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#1493 Post by ND » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:56 pm

:shock: sweeties I am very disappointed with all of you :x

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#1494 Post by damo666 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:58 pm

ND wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:54 pm
Why didn't people vote for DrFidelis lol. What's the reason for Ham? Bizarre.
Noob pass

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#1495 Post by kingofthepirates » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:58 pm

Short stop at a gas station… and hamb died? Oof. Any particular plan forward? Or do those with roles just PM in their actions and we see what happens?
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#1496 Post by worcej » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:59 pm

Vecna wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:58 pm
this feels like itll yield some interesting data of a useless nature
IDK if I like this statement from Vecna…

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#1497 Post by brainbomb » Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:00 pm

we should make a running list of all people who someone gave a free pass too for day 1.

from my memory it was like
sweet because we day 1 him alot
pirate because hes new
fidelis because hes new
damo because damo is boring

any others

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#1498 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:03 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:00 pm
we should make a running list of all people who someone gave a free pass too for day 1.

from my memory it was like
sweet because we day 1 him alot
pirate because hes new
fidelis because hes new
damo because damo is boring

any others
I free passed rivera in my head if that counts

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#1499 Post by snowy801 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:04 pm

By the way just curious Brian's dead vote counts towards MMA powers right

I can't really imagine it wouldn't but just in case

##Call GM

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#1500 Post by damo666 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:04 pm

kingofthepirates wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:58 pm
Short stop at a gas station… and hamb died? Oof. Any particular plan forward? Or do those with roles just PM in their actions and we see what happens?
Yes.

And we can discuss what we think the voting implies.

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