M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

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Re: M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

#2881 Post by Chaqa » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:30 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:24 pm
Your point is irrelevant.

Regardless of whether you get banned, I ask that you stop playing mafia here, and elsewhere.

You ruin the efforts of dozens of people for your perverse pleasures, and that is not okay.

I hope you take some time to reflect upon your actions and make the right choice.
You're being a sore loser. EMC isn't the issue here, it's that everyone in our community is awful at playing town.

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#2882 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:30 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:13 pm
I personally don't believe policy lynching is the solution. I believe emc should be permanently banned

Not for anything he did this game to be sure - scum has the right to lurk - but for the sentiment expressed in the God QT message that more or less went: "snowy you only got me by chance - I do this every game and I can't wait to see you rage as I do this next game as town"

I infer from Jamiet's earlier message that darg and Eden are thse Mafia Councillors and so to you I state a gain: if you have witnessed previous games and agree with the manifold claims that emc plays like this regardless of alignment

Ban him. Permanently

He is a predator who abuses the goodwill of this community.
I strongly and sincerely agree with this statement.

Sorry EMC, but I do.

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#2883 Post by worcej » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:30 pm

Also - snowy, play more too. You were also a great addition.

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#2884 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:32 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:30 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:13 pm
I personally don't believe policy [REDACTED] is the solution. I believe emc should be permanently banned

Not for anything he did this game to be sure - scum has the right to lurk - but for the sentiment expressed in the God QT message that more or less went: "snowy you only got me by chance - I do this every game and I can't wait to see you rage as I do this next game as town"

I infer from Jamiet's earlier message that darg and Eden are thse Mafia Councillors and so to you I state a gain: if you have witnessed previous games and agree with the manifold claims that emc plays like this regardless of alignment

Ban him. Permanently

He is a predator who abuses the goodwill of this community.
I strongly and sincerely agree with this statement.

Sorry EMC, but I do.
I mean, I DO think that policy killing *would* be a solution, but this community has repeatedly refused to enforce such a policy despite my efforts.

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#2885 Post by snowy801 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:33 pm

Also apologies again for dropping the l word here and there. Years of habit makes it slip out, and I'm working on avoidance

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#2886 Post by snowy801 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:35 pm

worcej wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:30 pm
Also - snowy, play more too. You were also a great addition.
I'm considering it! I had fun for what little time was given to me.

I would prefer to play in a "larger" game though, so I'm going to keep an eye out on the next sign ups and see what happens.

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#2887 Post by ghug » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:37 pm

worcej wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:29 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:24 pm
Your point is irrelevant.

Regardless of whether you get banned, I ask that you stop playing mafia here, and elsewhere.

You ruin the efforts of dozens of people for your perverse pleasures, and that is not okay.

I hope you take some time to reflect upon your actions and make the right choice.
I can understand this feeling, but literally town had multiple chances to eliminate him earlier and only a few entertained it.

Your monologue in the God QT was spot on though - we're all too desperate to be THE hero that town doesn't normally come together well.
Except he also accuses someone like me who's made a conscious effort to back off the first two days for the good of the town as someone attempting heroism.

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#2888 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:40 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:24 pm
perverse pleasures
Oh honey, I didn't think you noticed ;D

That being said, what I don't understand what I am apparently ruining. Ruining town efforts as scum? That is sort of the point as playing scum...

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#2889 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:41 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:40 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:24 pm
perverse pleasures
Oh honey, I didn't think you noticed ;D

That being said, what I don't understand what I am apparently ruining. Ruining town efforts as scum? That is sort of the point as playing scum...
The point is that you often disengage, lurk, disappear for days on end as town, and this HARMS town, and you've acknowledged that you don't care.

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#2890 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:42 pm

EMC, your presence in this community gives a permanent buff to scum, it's that simple. As town you barely provide any help to town, and as scum you leverage that uselessness to stay alive while quietly helping scum to win. It's toxic and shameful.

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#2891 Post by Chaqa » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:45 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:42 pm
EMC, your presence in this community gives a permanent buff to scum, it's that simple. As town you barely provide any help to town, and as scum you leverage that uselessness to stay alive while quietly helping scum to win. It's toxic and shameful.
You're toxic and shameful

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#2892 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:57 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:45 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:42 pm
EMC, your presence in this community gives a permanent buff to scum, it's that simple. As town you barely provide any help to town, and as scum you leverage that uselessness to stay alive while quietly helping scum to win. It's toxic and shameful.
You're toxic and shameful
I'm sorry you think that way.

If a significant proportion of the community think the same as you, I'll leave, for good.

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#2893 Post by e.m.c^42 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:06 am

Does EMC really have that much power over everyone's town heuristics?

"I think your town play is bad, and you're too good as scum mimicking being a bad player" sum it up? :P

I do increase activity when there's increased free time. Not much free time these recent months so not much activity. Used to talk a lot when I could, yanno?

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#2894 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:10 am

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:06 am
Does EMC really have that much power over everyone's town heuristics?

"I think your town play is bad, and you're too good as scum mimicking being a bad player" sum it up? :P

I do increase activity when there's increased free time. Not much free time these recent months so not much activity. Used to talk a lot when I could, yanno?
If you don't have time to play, stop signing up. Go away and come back when you've got time. You're a walking sack of excuses.

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#2895 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:10 am

Or, in fact, just go away.

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#2896 Post by snowy801 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:14 am

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:40 pm
That being said, what I don't understand what I am apparently ruining. Ruining town efforts as scum? That is sort of the point as playing scum...
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:06 am
Does EMC really have that much power over everyone's town heuristics?

"I think your town play is bad, and you're too good as scum mimicking being a bad player" sum it up? :P

I do increase activity when there's increased free time. Not much free time these recent months so not much activity. Used to talk a lot when I could, yanno?
Honestly, your comments here eroded what respect I reserve for people I don't know. You are clearly not worth the effort.

I clearly stated that your actions this game are not what informs the ban. I know you read it and did not fail to understand, so you are caught actively lying to make yourself look better. Point 1.

Nobody said you were good at scum. Consider the following scenario:

You're playing 3v3 pick up basketball. One player on team 1 keeps passing the ball to team 2 whenever they get it. What an incredible that player is for team 2. Is that what you're trying to say? Once again, I know you did not understand my and Jamiet's point, so lying again. Point 2.

If you do not have time to play, don't. What a selfish motive, to say "I will deign to play when I have time and you will beg for the scraps I offer you and like it."

What is wrong with you? You have issues. Go get therapy.

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#2897 Post by snowy801 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:15 am

snowy801 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:14 am
Once again, I know you did not understand my and Jamiet's point, so lying again. Point 2.
Correction: did not fail to understand

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#2898 Post by ghug » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:25 am

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:06 am
Does EMC really have that much power over everyone's town heuristics?

"I think your town play is bad, and you're too good as scum mimicking being a bad player" sum it up? :P

I do increase activity when there's increased free time. Not much free time these recent months so not much activity. Used to talk a lot when I could, yanno?
The problem is that players who play in a way that makes them ineffective as town and effective as scum, whether they're doing it to benefit their scum play or not. I like to talk policy killing, but we can't policy kill several people a game.

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#2899 Post by e.m.c^42 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:37 am

snowy801 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:15 am
snowy801 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:14 am
Once again, I know you did not understand my and Jamiet's point, so lying again. Point 2.
Correction: did not fail to understand
No, not playing stupid at moment, am not understanding what you think is so inherent of my play in particular, that is so bad this time around as for you to specifically make general statement (assuming you've not looked at past games), outside of activity?

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#2900 Post by e.m.c^42 » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:38 am

ghug wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:25 am
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:06 am
Does EMC really have that much power over everyone's town heuristics?

"I think your town play is bad, and you're too good as scum mimicking being a bad player" sum it up? :P

I do increase activity when there's increased free time. Not much free time these recent months so not much activity. Used to talk a lot when I could, yanno?
The problem is that players who play in a way that makes them ineffective as town and effective as scum, whether they're doing it to benefit their scum play or not. I like to talk policy killing, but we can't policy kill several people a game.
O, that makes more sense

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