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Re: User research

by Percy Williams » Mon May 27, 2019 2:13 pm

Percy Williams wrote: ↑
Sun May 26, 2019 4:34 am
Claesar wrote: ↑
Sat May 25, 2019 2:58 pm
 Boats on strings sounds cool, but I hope at the WDC they'll provide us ravens.
I mean, It's whatever's easiest.
One communication line is a model train set.
Another is messages tied to fish.
While another still is skinnies falling down stairs to the other player.

It's just whatever works. If anyone needs a document of my Ideas for their next ftf tournament, let me know.
*Slinkies falling down stairs

Re: User research

by Percy Williams » Sun May 26, 2019 4:34 am

Claesar wrote: ↑
Sat May 25, 2019 2:58 pm
 Boats on strings sounds cool, but I hope at the WDC they'll provide us ravens.
I mean, It's whatever's easiest.
One communication line is a model train set.
Another is messages tied to fish.
While another still is skinnies falling down stairs to the other player.

It's just whatever works. If anyone needs a document of my Ideas for their next ftf tournament, let me know.

Re: User research

by Percy Williams » Sun May 26, 2019 4:29 am

Deeply_Dippy wrote: ↑
Sat May 25, 2019 8:20 pm
 As well as Anon, all FTF Tournaments should be played 'in character', with full and authentic national costumes.

That way, if you happen to catch a glimpse fo a player, you'll only know which country the represent, not who they are!
And all players must wear a mask in the shape of their country.

Re: User research

by Deeply_Dippy » Sat May 25, 2019 8:20 pm

As well as Anon, all FTF Tournaments should be played 'in character', with full and authentic national costumes.

That way, if you happen to catch a glimpse fo a player, you'll only know which country the represent, not who they are!

Re: User research

by Claesar » Sat May 25, 2019 2:58 pm

Boats on strings sounds cool, but I hope at the WDC they'll provide us ravens.

Re: User research

by Percy Williams » Sat May 25, 2019 1:02 pm

No Messengers.
The rooms are close together, and have boats on strings in gutters that you can put the message on and push to the other country. This can also be done in a gymnasium with tarpaulins as walls, so that each player has a cubicle, or as I like to call it, a "command room". Depending on your setup, the messages can be sent by pneumatic tubes, telegram, or any other method available with a very physical system.

Re: User research

by Claesar » Sat May 25, 2019 9:34 am

Percy Williams wrote: ↑
Fri May 24, 2019 9:51 pm
 That would at least be how I'd do it. Have everyone come to the same place, and then lock them in isolated rooms.
:D
How many messengers do you think you'd need for a single game? I think you could make it work with only 7.

How much extra time due to the communication delay?

And at that point, why not just give them all a laptop and play via webDip?..

Re: User research

by Percy Williams » Fri May 24, 2019 9:51 pm

That would at least be how I'd do it. Have everyone come to the same place, and then lock them in isolated rooms.
:D

Re: User research

by graeme_moss » Fri May 24, 2019 6:17 pm

So it's not really "face" to "face", interesting.

Re: User research

by Percy Williams » Fri May 24, 2019 12:37 pm

They put them all in separate rooms, and run messages between each of them.

Re: User research

by graeme_moss » Fri May 24, 2019 11:29 am

How do they avoid metagaming in f2f tournaments?

Re: User research

by Squigs44 » Thu May 23, 2019 6:28 pm

yavuzovic wrote: ↑
Thu May 23, 2019 4:46 pm
Claesar wrote: ↑
Wed May 22, 2019 10:08 pm
 Yes, as long as you don't enter a game with the pre-determined intent to ally another player (you've played with before). Furthermore, if we (moderators) notice you've been allying the same player in several games, we may get suspicious
If a certain player never attacks me, I will continue allying them until he betrays. This isn't pre determined but when I see a trustworthy player, I can guess my future alliances.
This is something that factors into ftf games amongst friends even more heavily. The board game was designed for ftf play, where real life relations and past games are inevitable and have a heavier influence. I remember growing up, whenever I played Risk with my cousins, we would gang up on a particular cousin because he would ALWAYS win. This helped balance the game, and made it more fun for us.
However, I have also played board games with couples who refuse to betray each other, and this takes the fun out of the game since they had an inseparable alliance. Metagaming that creates an inbalance in a game takes out the fun and should have no place in gaming.
And of course, tournament games should be strictly anonymous.

Re: User research

by FlaviusAetius » Thu May 23, 2019 5:21 pm

thus why anonymous games are a thing.
Non-anonymous games just ask for metagaming I don't think you can really stop that.

Re: User research

by Friendly Sword » Thu May 23, 2019 5:11 pm

I feel like using past behaviour to that extent *is* low-key metagaming, yavuzovic.

If as you say it isn't predetermined then I don't think it rises to the level of breaking the rules but I would certainly be unhappy if I was taken out of a game by players that reportedly allied in the basis of their behaviours from previous games.

Re: User research

by yavuzovic » Thu May 23, 2019 4:46 pm

Claesar wrote: ↑
Wed May 22, 2019 10:08 pm
 Yes, as long as you don't enter a game with the pre-determined intent to ally another player (you've played with before). Furthermore, if we (moderators) notice you've been allying the same player in several games, we may get suspicious
If a certain player never attacks me, I will continue allying them until he betrays. This isn't pre determined but when I see a trustworthy player, I can guess my future alliances.

Re: User research

by graeme_moss » Wed May 22, 2019 10:29 pm

Seems fair to me!

Re: User research

by Claesar » Wed May 22, 2019 10:08 pm

Yes, as long as you don't enter a game with the pre-determined intent to ally another player (you've played with before). Furthermore, if we (moderators) notice you've been allying the same player in several games, we may get suspicious

User research

by graeme_moss » Wed May 22, 2019 9:15 pm

When playing a non-anonymous game, I presume it's fair play to look at past games in common with the other players, e.g. to see how they played, how trustworthy they proved to be, etc.?

I know it's against the rules to make any agreements across active or future games (meta gaming), but presumably it's OK to say something like "Look how faithful I was to you in that past game X -- I always told you the truth" or some such to try to establish your credibility for the sake of the current active game?

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