Vecna wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:24 pm

yuuki wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:32 pm

Also, it was pretty shocking that scum didn't counterclaim any of the roles. Survivor should definitely have been counterclaimed by someone from scum team. xorxes should had jumped on it given his early survivor claim.

A massclaim wouldve removed Percy, Worcej, Damo and EMC from the pool of suspicion. The only mislynchable people that wouldve remained were Ike and Carambola, if common consensus voting/determining a lynch or gladiate wouldve been used. It wouldve been a lynchpool of 6 people containing all four scum.

when I proposed it, we still had time to initiate 2 gladiates in the day. We couldve lynched 2 scum, or mislynch two town and have 4 confirmed scum left.

As a PR these things are always way harder to gauge because you dont have selfknowledge and the added poe elimination when you know youre a VT, and you know a strong townread has also claimed VT. I did. Jamiet did. When you have played with someone for years, you know when you can lock certain people as town.

Scum would never cc survivor, because theyre not immune to gladiates. This would result in an autolynch on scum, maybe involving having to trust EMC. I know a lot of people werent trusting off him. I did. Ive done enough gambits in my time to know he would not have fucked us over the first time. Simple people knowledge. Even now when EMC was put in a position to screw town over after scum had given him the gladiate, he did not.

If scum was smart enough to coordinate in that scramble and CC the adrenaline gladiator, they wouldve had to square off against you Yuuki. Everyone townread you - they wouldve died.

The best play was probably to CC the roleblocker. I doubt they wouldve thought about that, but in the case they do, you have a way to resolve that as well. You assign each roleblock-claimant a widely townread or towncleared person to RB. The person that fails to deliver is lynched.

Scum cc'ing wouldve been a big mistake. Their best bet wouldve been to all claim VT and hope they were lucky enough for us to have our gladiates miss the emperor.

I stand by that my plan was the best approach. We could not avoid to mislynch more people. It wasnt about which PR's died, it was all a numbers game. To lynch the vital scum PR's so they could not use the thumbs up/thumbs down nonsense.

Youre entitled to your own opinion ofcourse. It would be nice if you just tried to view things from the other perspective and not just try to win the discussion no matter what. Especially not since it became apparently clear on multiple occasions you werent even aware of some of the most important mechanics.

yuuki wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:32 pm

Also, it was pretty shocking that scum didn't counterclaim any of the roles. Survivor should definitely have been counterclaimed by someone from scum team. xorxes should had jumped on it given his early survivor claim.

Vaporwave wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:39 pm

Will you be playing again or was it a one time thing?

brainbomb wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:46 pm

its never very fun to rand 3p.

yuuki wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:32 pm

Also, it was pretty shocking that scum didn't counterclaim any of the roles. Survivor should definitely have been counterclaimed by someone from scum team. xorxes should had jumped on it given his early survivor claim.

Vecna wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:15 pm

good luck explaining that to people though

Vaporwave wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:02 pm

Would only allow myself to rand scum if I get to be in a team with Vecna, xorxes and e.m.c. They seem to have that necessary confidence to be scum and act normal in public thread. The way xorxes came to save/backup Neph was really cute

Vecna wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:09 pm

Regardless, why on earth did scum not use Rdrivera to do all nightkills? The scum gladiator would still kill the bodyguard, even if it protected their target. There was nothing town could to to save Worcej and other PR's, so that definately was a major tactical mistake.

Vecna wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:09 pm

I have no idea why certain mafia players are pretending it was that action that made my slot unlynchable though

Floodgates wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:22 pm

Also, I can't not share this now... A few hours after joining I sent this PM to Darg.

Floodgates wrote:

Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:27 am

After a few hours of reading I have my preliminary reads!

Scum - xorxes, Temasek22, Nephthys (even before the challenge) and.... maybe rdrivera?

Vecna wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:09 pm

Sorry for replacing out the way I did, and putting the GM's in the position where they had to manage a bunch of unruly pissed off individuals. After getting that annoyed it seemed like the right move to not continue and cause more toxicity in the thread. Also, getting that worked up over something as silly was probably a good indication as that it was better to not continue with the game.

I have no idea why certain mafia players are pretending it was that action that made my slot unlynchable though

Well played Chaqa. Not sure if you pretending to have scanned Chaqa is what ultimately stopped scum from killing you, but youre definately the reason this turnaround was possible.

Regardless, why on earth did scum not use Rdrivera to do all nightkills? The scum gladiator would still kill the bodyguard, even if it protected their target. There was nothing town could to to save Worcej and other PR's, so that definately was a major tactical mistake.