Mafia 88: Murder at the Meadery - GAME THREAD

[sweetandcool]

How much bussing of Just do you think there was?

You know, other than possibly some late voters who could have been giving up on Will, I think there was no bussing.

From an outside perspective, however, I think it's reasonable to consider sweetandcool or possibly even Bona bussing.

But I doubt Bona bussing and I know I didn't.

THANKS KING!!! Thanks for answering me....KINGOFTHEPIRATES!

Welcome pal.

[BunnyGo]

How much bussing of Just do you think there was?

I think the availability of other wagons likely means that there wasn't too much bussing. of the 7 votes on will, I'd say that a maximum of 2 are bussing, otherwise, all the mafia could've jumped ship to kill town instead. I doubt there was no bussing at all though, so probably 1-2 bus votes.

Do you have any Just voters that you think their comments/timing/votes/mechanics mean they aren't the busser(s)?

[BunnyGo]

VCA?

pardon? are you suggesting that VCA is a better/good method that I should use, or are you calling for one on me, or what?

You said you don't see any other methods to gain insights. I suggested Vote Count Analysis might be an option.

[sweetandcool]

Hmmm, maybe damo is right. By PoE I am starting to conclude that Balki or Ham are the final scum.

Unless I'm falsely clearing Bozo or someone else.

[kingofthepirates]

THANKS KING!!! Thanks for answering me....KINGOFTHEPIRATES!

can't tell if this is sarcasm, my sarcasm sensors have been dulled by my math teacher (bona will know, I think?). I did answer above though :).

[bozotheclown]

Ties, but work I don't like killing new players.

Why are you voting for a new player now then?

##vote bozo.

Town bozo is smarter than all this.

Than all of what?

[damo666]

ghug, bunny, worcej (anyone else really), I need your help here.

What does it mean to you when Mafia RB someone other than the NK?

Assuming the jailer can't jail themselves, there is not much of a reason to RB the NK in this game. If I were mafia, I would have advocated not using the RB N1.

See that's generally what I would expect from veteran teams.

like Bozo Jamie Vecna for instance?

[sweetandcool]

Assuming the jailer can't jail themselves, there is not much of a reason to RB the NK in this game. If I were mafia, I would have advocated not using the RB N1.

See that's generally what I would expect from veteran teams.

like Bozo Jamie Vecna for instance?

Yes, that would be an example team that would do that. But that team doesn't mesh with what actually happened in the game, with two RB claims.

[ghug]

Why did you choose Bonatogether and damo to vote for over Spartaculous during this sequence?

Ties, but work I don't like killing new players.

Why are you voting for a new player now then?

It's not EoD1.

[ghug]

Bozo, what would you say is the aspect of the game you're worst at?

I think I am deficient in a number of aspects of the game, but I am trying to improve.

This was not an answer.

[ghug]

I just attempted a reads list, but halfway through I got really tired of it and I kept essentially calling everyone null. I'm just going to post an extremely condensed version of it and then make a follow up post about who I am willing to vote for, who I am not willing to vote for.

damo: His vote for sweetandcool feels like a parody of his normal play. Still, not much content to really assess his alignment, I can only divine that he is busy.

rdr: Seems happy. Is actually towning me.

Dr.brain: I really like his play so far. I really just need to make a separate post about the content of the discussion he is generating, but I don't have the time today.

Ham: ??? Is excited about the game though, that must make him TOWN.

Pirate: Hmmmm, did follow through with unvoting me when I came back. Is making the classic newbie mistake of scumreading players you don't understand (bona). I want to conclude soft town.

worcej: I'm liking him this game but normally I feel nothing. Does that make him scum?

bozothetown: Opened the game pretty tinfoily. I think this is town bozo.

ghug: I think he is actually scum this game. Call it vibes. No, I am not able to make a case at this time. I am reasonably confident that by D3 I should know for sure.

Balki: I like him this game. I think him "panicking" about the lack of content is generally more townie, but I don't know his scum game and if that is a scum trick of his.

Jamiet: I'm actually pretty good at figuring out when he is Mafia. I'm not sure yet, but he is feeling worse rather than better so far. His reaction to my RNG vote was Authentic, but in the follow up discussion around it his suspicions of me didn't display the critical thinking I would expect from Town Jamiet.

Will: I think there is a decent chance Will is scum. Bona has correctly pointed out that Will's content mostly lacks substance. My discussion with him also indicated that Will's state of mind was one of disinterest in solving the game, which is less likely to come from Town.

@Jamie this post (esp about Will) is one reason sweet ain't scum

I still think it possible that sweetandcool was bussing all 3 of his teammates in that post.

Bozo is doing the thing he does as scum where he focuses on the possible instead of the probable.

[damo666]

See that's generally what I would expect from veteran teams.

like Bozo Jamie Vecna for instance?

Yes, that would be an example team that would do that. But that team doesn't mesh with what actually happened in the game, with two RB claims.

Why not brain RB ghug, scum hold and Jamie fakeclaims? That works.

[bozotheclown]

How much bussing of Just do you think there was?

You know, other than possibly some late voters who could have been giving up on Will, I think there was no bussing.

From an outside perspective, however, I think it's reasonable to consider sweetandcool or possibly even Bona bussing.

But I doubt Bona bussing and I know I didn't.

THANKS KING!!! Thanks for answering me....KINGOFTHEPIRATES!

You didn't ask me either, but I am suspicious of everyone who was "correct" about Just at EOD, because no one suspected him enough to vote for him all of D1 except for the last 1.5 hours. I would not be surprised if all of the mafia ended the day voting for Just.

[bozotheclown]

Ties, but work I don't like killing new players.

Why are you voting for a new player now then?

It's not EoD1.

I didn't see that qualification in your original answer.

[bozotheclown]

Bozo, what would you say is the aspect of the game you're worst at?

I think I am deficient in a number of aspects of the game, but I am trying to improve.

This was not an answer.

It is as close as you are going to get to an answer.

[damo666]

It occurs to me the D1 result of 7:3:3 indicates probable scum absence at EOD which is Will himself, LoW and me. I know I'm not scum so

##vote Lord

If Lord flips town there was very probably at least one busser.

[bozotheclown]

@Jamie this post (esp about Will) is one reason sweet ain't scum

I still think it possible that sweetandcool was bussing all 3 of his teammates in that post.

Bozo is doing the thing he does as scum where he focuses on the possible instead of the probable.

I think you typically accuse me of doing that as town.

[kingofthepirates]

You didn't ask me either, but I am suspicious of everyone who was "correct" about Just at EOD, because no one suspected him enough to vote for him all of D1 except for the last 1.5 hours. I would not be surprised if all of the mafia ended the day voting for Just.

Ok I hate to be that guy, but I'm bringing the math back real quick. If all mafia where on will, they could've all migrated onto one of the 3 person wagons and saved will and got rid of a town (even 2 mafia on will could've tied, but at EOD, it would be suspicious). so I doubt it's 3 mafia on will.

[Spartaculous]

Chiming in, I'm off work for the weekend, so I'm around to answer questions directly if you'd like.

Just going over Will's reads list.

It'd also be helpful to know if there is a post bookmarking function here. Still getting used to the layout.

I'm now more convinced by Jamie's earlier case.

##VOTE Lord

[damo666]

Chiming in, I'm off work for the weekend, so I'm around to answer questions directly if you'd like.

Just going over Will's reads list.

It'd also be helpful to know if there is a post bookmarking function here. Still getting used to the layout.

I'm now more convinced by Jamie's earlier case.

##VOTE Lord

Sparta moves off me to join me lol