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05 Apr 13 UTC

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game stuck on pause

Hi fellow Diplomats, any idea how one can get a game unpaused, our game has been on pause for days now, any help would be appreciated, cheers.

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Substitute player?

I was wondering, is it possible to substitute a player into a game without needing to miss two phases to get a CD, but that's a long time in which the players entire game plan could get crushed as the players around him would take advantage. I know it isn't possible now, but would a mod be able to do it if needed? E.G. if a player leaves but doesn't want to ruin the game.

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Important survey of WebDip community. Please answer only YES, NO or DON'T KNOW

Do you believe that shape-shifting reptilians control our world by taking on human form and gaining political power to manipulate
our societies, or not?

Please answer YES, NO or DON'T KNOW

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05 Apr 13 UTC

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WEBDIP Poll - Invisible Voting and Status?

Add your vote and comment: Always invisible, Optional invisible or Always visible as it is today?

josunice (3702 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

You should only see your own votes and status, and communicate intention through your actions and press, if available. Public voting is used for diplomacy and can be abused. Tracking opponent status just leads to angry forum posts...

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Always invisible - 1*
Optional invisible (more programming) - 0
Always visible (current) - 0

Mapu (362 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

All votes always visible.

ghug (5068 )
05 Apr 13 UTC
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Diplomacy is a game in which you *communicate* with others, hence the name. If you dislike that, I recommend Risk.

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Always invisible (more programming) - 1
Optional invisible (more programming) - 0
Always visible (current) - 1

uclabb (589 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

Wrong, ghug. In diplomacy, draw votes are supposed to be anonymous.

Always invisible (more programming) - 2
Optional invisible (more programming) - 0
Always visible (current) - 1

Socrates Dissatisfied (1727 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

Always invisible (more programming) - 2
Optional invisible (more programming) - 1
Always visible (current) - 1

Fairfax (1915 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

Always invisible (more programming) - 2
Optional invisible (more programming) - 1
Always visible (current) - 2

NigeeBaby (100 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

Are all the people voting for more programming also happy to pay for a programmer or just hoping that somebody will do it for nothing?
In Live gunboats where you typically have one if not more CDs then actually seeing people put up DRAWCANCEL vote is a great way of signalling to other players that the game should be stopped. If we could not see that you would probably have more people just resigning from games out of frustration. Also I have seen some multis/metas enter 3 players and then abandon one of the countries and then take it over, in that situation the 2 remaining cheaters are the only people who have not put up a DRAW/CANCEL vote. If the votes were invisible we could not see this cheating.
With that in mind my vote has to be always visible so that cheats can't abuse the feature in gunboats.
Always invisible (more programming) - 2
Optional invisible (more programming) - 1
Always visible (current) - 3

jimgov (219 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

@uclabb - I'm looking at the pdf of the rules of diplomacy from Wizards of the Coast. The only thing it says with regards to a vote is "players can end the game by agreement before a winner is determined." Absolutely no mention of the words "vote" or "annonymous."

How the heck are people in gunboats, especially new players, supposed to know that the voting is appropriate? They will just sit there in merry ignorance long after a stalemate line has been established.

Always invisible (more programming) - 2
Optional invisible (more programming) - 1
Always visible (current) - 4

uclabb (589 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

@jimgov- Apparently you are right. The reason why I thought that is that every tournament that I have heard of plays with secret voting. For example:
http://www.boardgamers.org/yearbkex/dippge.htm
http://www.dixiecon.com/id9.html
Boston Massacre was that way
and so on.

josunice (3702 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

@Jim - The vote should be invisible and you can use press however you wish to convey voting, not through the vote buttons themselves.
@Nig - the FUBARed game being able to see the votes to track who ia holding up a cancel is actually part of the problem. It just makes one angry, but does not assist a resolution. Unfortunately there is no rule on required cancel of a FUBARed game...
Ultimately all communication should be through moves and press, that's it...

dipplayer2004 (1110 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

Always invisible (more programming) - 2
Optional invisible (more programming) - 1
Always visible (current) - 5

dipplayer2004 (1110 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

What ghug said. The end status of the game is a negotiation issue. If you look at the game as a simulation, there would not be anonymous powers proposing treaties to end the war. There would be knowledge of who was proposing a cease-fire.

Halt (270 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

Always invisible (more programming) - 2
Optional invisible (more programming) - 1
Always visible (current) - 6

jmo1121109 (3812 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

Perhaps a better alternative would be only having one color checkbox that does not signify ready or orders entered, but only shows that a player has entered moves, this would take away the READY UP DAMMIT argument.

josunice (3702 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

@jmo - that would only increase the witch hunt and still let people use people's status as info...

yassem (2533 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

Always invisible (more programming) - 3
Optional invisible (more programming) - 1
Always visible (current) - 6

it shouldn't be a part of diplomatic relations, forcing others to draw, pause or cancel

guak (3381 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

Always invisible (more programming) - 3
Optional invisible (more programming) - 1
Always visible (current) - 7

Gunboats, enough said.

krellin (80 )
05 Apr 13 UTC
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If I were playing F2F, my interest in the game (i.e. play one, draw, cancel) could be equally visible either through my actions (disinterest) or through saying to my fellow players, "This is bullshit, I call draw. Let's go to the bar..." thus making it a public pronouncement.

Always visible.

krellin (80 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

If you want to lobby for it without selecting it, you are free to do so. If you want to be swayed by someone else's public vote, that's your problem. Recognize that it *is* a diplomatic tool, and not jut a game mechanism, and deal with it appropriately.

jmo1121109 (3812 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

That is true Krellin, in almost every form of playing face to face the other players will be able to see if and when you turn in your orders.

Always visible

Mapu (362 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

Always invisible (more programming) - 3
Optional invisible (more programming) - 1
Always visible (current) - 9

Included mine and jmo's votes.

Mapu (362 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

Always invisible (more programming) - 3
Optional invisible (more programming) - 1
Always visible (current) - 10

Oops... Krellin's too.

josunice (3702 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

I thought there would be more purists -- you communicate through your troop movements and your comments, if there is press -- FULL STOP. Why provide other unintended diplomatic tools that can be perceived as collusion (strange Cancel/Pause votes) or why show the player turn status so people can get needlessly angry?

jmo1121109 (3812 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

@josunice, If I play against you face to face you are going to know if I put my orders in or not simply by watching me write them. If 3 people have to leave I can talk to the other 4 and go "hey they all left...lets stop playing". If someone needs to go pick their kid up everyone can talk and agree to wait an hour for them. Those are what the check marks, cancel, and pause options represent here.

josunice (3702 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

@jmo - the functions are good, just seeing them is not so good. In Press games there is ability to communicate such needs for a pause or desire for a cancel -- you can still see if a player has left, just not their votes or status. In GB, I can see where life may call for a pause, but is there a rule that it must be honored? Can you always call on a mod to force a GB pause, if not in a tournament? It is the risk we all run playing GB. For sure in FUBARed games everyone doesn't honor a cancel....

Dejan0707 (1608 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

Always invisible (more programming) - 4
Optional invisible (more programming) - 1
Always visible (current) - 10

Draugnar (0 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

I guess I would vote for optional (or maybe make it always for both anon and gunboat where it could be abused but leave as is for full and public press non-anon)

Draugnar (0 )
05 Apr 13 UTC

So that would make it...

Always invisible (more programming) - 4
Optional invisible (more programming) - 1
Invisible where it could be abused (more programming) - 1
Always visible (current) - 10

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05 Apr 13 UTC

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Need two for a private game

The first five all know each other so you should ba able to pit them against each other... Anyway, we are all fairly new so there is another reason if you want to destroy some newbs.

Waukesha
Pass: freshprince

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05 Apr 13 UTC

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Registration page broken?

Hitting the registration page on either my browser or my smartphone gives me a blank page with only: "http://webdiplomacy.net/register.php?emailToken=5c9a2%7Cjimmccarthy%40sympatico.ca"
Anybody else having the same issue?

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05 Apr 13 UTC

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Florida face-to-face game

Everyone else is doing it...

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05 Apr 13 UTC

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e.e. cumming EOG

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02 Apr 13 UTC

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Why the fuck was this thread locked?

threadID=992944

He asked a general question about crashed games and if they were recoverable or restartable. He didn't ask about a specific game. Who the fuck locked it?

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05 Apr 13 UTC

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Paused Death or Glory

Paused Death or Glory
This game is on pause because a player has selected draw and wont unpause, can anyone suggest how to unpause the game, thanks a lot.

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05 Apr 13 UTC

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Paused Death or Glory

This game is on pause because a player has selected draw and wont unpause, can anyone suggest how to unpause the game, thanks a lot.

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Have Diplomacy been used in education?

I am Japanese. I do not know what significance the game of Diplomacy has in U.S.A or EU. In Japan, it is said frequently, without any evidence, that the game of Diplomacy is a somekind of textbook to learn politics or other branches in junior high or senior high school. Is that really?

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04 Apr 13 UTC
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WEBDIP Spring Leagues Phaselength

So, I've been asked to create a game with a phase length of 25 hours...can I safely assume they meant 24 hours? And yes, this is a spring league game.

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05 Apr 13 UTC

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Science Weekly: Decoding Dreams

Science reported today that new research allows scientists to decode and predict objects in people's dreams. We are decades off from being able to watch dreams like movies, but this is still a major achievement. Thoughts on what this means for perhaps a person's most private type of experience?

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05 Apr 13 UTC

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Sitter Needed

I'm looking for a sitter for my account for Friday and Saturday. I've only got 3 or 4 games that need to be looked after. Trying to get a more sensitive game paused yet, others are either gunboat or in build season.

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05 Apr 13 UTC
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kingnews

forum seriesesess are all about rape these days
so i bring you the news you can use
and knolwdege you can choose to abuse
i report and i decide and you listen and you blow me

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04 Apr 13 UTC

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For the nutjobs who think The Government Economists have everything under control

America's Economic Depression in 5 Charts:
http://lewrockwell.com/orig14/mason-s2.1.1.html

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05 Apr 13 UTC

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A Little Help

I'm seeing the following message as I search for new games. Am I seeing this message as a result of website server error of because I have no diplo points?

No new games on the server. Select "New game" in the menu to create your own.

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04 Apr 13 UTC

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Proponents of Gay Marriage that are Against Polygamy

I was wondering if on the site there were any people that were for gay marriage but against polygamy, and if so why they were against polygamy but for gay marriage.

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04 Apr 13 UTC

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Game is still on Pause Mode

I am currently in a game called world wide gunboat! - 28. A player was removed for duplicate accounts and the game has been in pause mode since. Everyone has submitted their orders and is ready for the next phase, but it is not moving on. Many players are voting to unpause as well. Is this a fluke? I am confused as to why the game is still in pause mode.

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04 Apr 13 UTC

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why are there so many threads that have nothing to do with diplomacy?

i just noticed that this forum is full of non-diplomacy related threads. why dont you all go to some political discussion forum instead? with that said, does anybody know of any good ones?

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Conspiracy Theories are everywhere!

Lets start with a definition. Conspiracy Theory - A theory seeking to explain a disputed case or matter as a plot by a secret group or alliance rather than an individual or isolated act.

More to come.

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04 Apr 13 UTC

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How do we get a game unpaused?

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=113049#gamePanel

Been paused since the downtime, some players are probably not coming back. I have no idea how to contact a mod or admin.

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04 Apr 13 UTC

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Gauging interest in a Play by Email Demo Game

I'm organizing a Play By Email demo game for education purposes. The goal of this game is to create a series of diplomacy "problems" using events in the game. All communication will be done by email, and all communication will be made public at the end of the game.

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04 Apr 13 UTC

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Korean War Thread

Kaesong -> Inchon
Nampo -> Yellow Sea
Pyongyang -> Yonchon
Your move

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04 Apr 13 UTC

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Are These Solos?

Is this kind of game a solo or is it simply a win? I really hate them... took over a CD and got another year in. I didn't even realize it ended. gameID=111710

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03 Apr 13 UTC

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Understanding Class in Modern Day Society

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973
It says I'm established middle-class but I refute that slur. Try the test and see what class you are

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04 Apr 13 UTC
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Coin Donations

Is it possible to give coins to other players? I won my last game by just going ahead of the other players one turn and then none of us could continue playing afterwards, so I won by default. I feel bad and want to know if I could divide the pot I won between them.

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03 Apr 13 UTC
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Off to see Hamlet

My wife has just bought my b'day present (late June so you haven't missed it) we're off to see Hamlet in Stratford. My wife hates sucks things but will sit through 3 1/2 hrs for me. Is that luv or what?

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04 Apr 13 UTC

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Possible registration bug

Hi,
A friend has requested I post a potential bug report about the registration page. Apparently it wasn't working for him and some other people, but he couldn't post on the forum about it without an account.

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