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nvm, just missing an "l":
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2194399/Deutsche-media-executive-Brian-Mulligan-pictured-injuries-following-fight-LAPD.html

Sure, I find it remotely credible. In the absence of any evidence to support either side, I generally find it more credible that a Hollywood bank exec was on drugs and acting erratically than that LAPD kidnapped a bank exec to hold him hostage for $5K. Either way, should he have been beaten bloody? Doubt it.

lol. Hanged Man is a fuckfing moron. If the story was bout a crack whore in similar situtio, he would cry police setup..

Libs always show their stripes.

Nah, I would find it more credible that a crack whore was on drugs and acting erratically than that LAPD kidnapped a crack whore to hold her (or him, equal opportunity whoring) hostage for $5K. Nice try, though. I'm admittedly pro-police.

I don't really find it credible. I'll admit my own bias, though, thinking that as a banker, he most-likely deserved it. I feel horrible saying it, but it's how I feel.

THM, they weren't holding him hostage for the $5k - they already had that. Cops pocket large sums of money ("suspected drug money") they stumble across all the time without a fuss. What I'm wondering is what the cops were doing while Mulligan was in the motel room. Trying to track a friend or family member down who could get a hold of a large sum of money is what I'm thinking. "We have Brian, we're going to say he was on drugs and book him down at the station. He'll be humiliated, personally introduced to Bubba, lose his bank job, and wind up working at 7-11 unless you get us $100,000 in small unmarked bills in the next 6 hours..."

Unfortunately, this is almost certainly headed for an out of court settlement at taxpayer expense - we'll probably never get any closer to the truth than this.

Maybe not. If he's got enough money, he may rather go to court and publicly humiliate the city.

"I'll admit my own bias, though, thinking that as a banker, he most-likely deserved it."

I'm sort of with you. Deutsche Bank has been one of the worst of the worst in terms of corruption and fraud. But if this kind of thing can happen to a bank executive, it can happen to anyone.

"If he's got enough money, he may rather go to court and publicly humiliate the city."

Unless the Bank has his back or he's willing to go bankrupt pursuing this, he doesn't have enough money. Like all big governments, the City of LA has essentially unlimited legal resources. They can drag this along for years until Mulligan goes broke or gives up. The truth could easily develop into another massive police corruption scandal (this certainly sounds like the actions of some Rampart-ish Gangster Cops to me - sounds from the story like there were probably 4 cops involved at least) - no expense will be spared to see it swept quietly under the rug.

Yeah, that's a good point...

LA has unlimited legal resources? Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! California is fucking bankrupt and LA with it! No, LAPD will try to settle and him being a fat cat banker at the very top of the food chain will go for the embarassment factor. Just wait and see.

This lawsuit will be settled before opening statements. I'll take bets at 2:1 for it if you want to put your money where your mouth is, Draug.

The city of Los Angeles has hundreds of attorneys on staff. They can't get laid off thanks to their union contract no matter how bad off the city is financially. They'll get paid even when the city goes bankrupt, and will certainly cost the city less than any judgement in this case.

Settlements require both parties. Just because LA has the attorneys on staff doesn't mean they can walk in and say "you are settling Mr.Rich Banker". It all depends on *his* motivation.

Oh and I'll take you bet, but it works this way. We fix an amount (yours is twice mine) and we donate it to the site. I currently owe the site $50 from a game I misjudged. So what say we either double my bet or you pay it for me. Loser pays the site $100.

And for you to win, it has to be settled before opening arguments.

"It all depends on *his* motivation."

The LAPD has ways of creating 'motivations'. I have a feeling this guy will get a ton of traffic tickets if he doesn't play ball (for starters).

"Oh and I'll take you bet, but it works this way."

That works for me - I'll let you know when they settle.

Cool. Could be interesting.

What is the line on the judge shoving a gavel up Michael Flanagan's left nostril?

I find it sort of credible. It is really hard to judge without any evidence being released except for testimony of the victim and the folks who did the victimizing. But as was said, it is unlikely it needed to be so vicious.

First off, I'm hoping it was a typo in the article when it said this happened in May 2011....if so, how come we haven't heard of it before?

But off of first impression, I'd say this is a classic case of police brutality and that their account of events is falsified. However, three things in the article make me tend to believe their case. First off, he is suing for $50 million. My father does workman's comp cases....cases where the worker has been maimed and can never work again, and cases involving death. Those cases settle for about $3 million at most. No way in hell is a $50 million claim justified for a beat-up and short hospital stay, even with astronomical attorney fees. Secondly, his attorney is the same one who represented Michael Jackson's doctor. And finally, the police say he was on bath salts. I would believe anything they said, and I mean ANYTHING, should it be true that he actually did bath salts

In all these years on the Internet, I noticed something regarding the comments on the articles on police brutality.
On European forums, around 80% of posters are against the police.
On American forums, around 80% of posters are pro-police.
Either the US police is incredibly great or the US population has been brainwashed by the state.

goldfinger - the victim in this case makes millions of dollars a year. If this attack left him unable to work for a year, that would be several millions of dollars right there. And this isn't a suit for an accidental death resulting from simple negligence - this was a deliberate and malicious act perpetrated by a conspiracy of several police officers. I don't expect this would settle for $50 million, but it will certainly settle for more than a typical accidental death suit.

For a point of reference, some of the crooked cops from the Rampart scandal shot a gang member in the back (leaving him paralyzed for life) and was convicted on the officers' perjured testimonies of attempted murder of a police officer and sentenced to 23 years. He filed a civil suit against the city, the case went to court, and he got a $15 million judgement. Lots of other Rampart-related civil suits settled for 7 figures IIRC. Juries, it seems, are willing to hand out big judgments in these cases - considering the loss to reputation and earnings this very wealthy bank executive lost, I don't think a number that big is too far out of line (although I expect it will be negotiated lower).

"Secondly, his attorney is the same one who represented Michael Jackson's doctor."

What does that have to do with anything?

"I would believe anything they said, and I mean ANYTHING, should it be true that he actually did bath salts"

If he was on "bath salts", why didn't the police arrest him and get him tested? Why would they let someone who was such a danger to the community under the most evilest of evil drugs go sleep it off in a motel room instead of making an arrest?

@Zmaj - the pendulum is swinging. I notice a marked difference in attitudes towards police depending on their age - those under 30 tend to be very strongly 'anti-police', and those over 40 tend to be very strongly 'pro-police' from my experience. Overall, I recall hearing about poll results a few months ago that police only have a 56% favorable rating, which was lower than most other occupations.

Do you have a theory to account for the discrepancy in attitudes on the other side of the ocean?

I still think $50 million is way too high. Even if this bank executive earned $7 million a year, which is probably much more than he actually earns, that would equate to $30,000 a day. If he were in the hospital for a month (again, a liberal estimation) he would have lost a mere $600,000 in wages, and at most $20,000 in medical fees (another liberal estimation). That means of the $50 million claim, almost $49 million is in punitive damages.

I see what you're saying in the Rampart case, but that was a paralysis case. I would imaging a mugging would earn less than the $15 million judgement there.

And I mention the attorney because attorneys naturally specialize in things. This man specializes in DWI, medical malpractice and general criminal law. Why hire that man? Police brutality falls more into the hands of a civil rights lawyer.

As for the bath salts, this is from an NBC report

"When police found Mulligan, he was sweating — Flanagan said his client had run a mile — and his gait was unsteady. A field sobriety test was performed that determined Mulligan wasn't under the influence, he said. However, Mulligan told police he had used bath salts and marijuana four days prior, Flanagan said.

"He was found to be calm, lucid and cooperative," Flanagan said.

Police handcuffed Mulligan, took him to his car that was searched, and then he was driven to a nearby motel where he was told by the officers he must stay, Flanagan said. Mulligan's car keys were left with a motel manager and his cell phone was left behind in his car, the attorney said."

They did a field sobriety test, found nothing wrong. He was calm, lucid and cooperative, so they had no reason to detain him. As for the motel, it could be that the officers were trying to be responsible and find a safe place for him to stay for the night so he wouldn't harm others, since they legally had no reason to detain him.

And bath salts just come back at you (from the reports I've read) for days on end so I would believe that he could be lucid one moment and crazy the next

Tolstoy, I'd say there are several causes for that.

First, the historical instability of European governments and political systems. Most European countries had long periods when the police was "their" police, not "ours". "They" would be a different political party or even a different nation.

Next, family and community ties in the larger part of Europe are stronger than in the US, leading to people trying to solve their issues among themselves. Calling the police would be seen as "treachery".

Finally, police corruption is higher in Europe than in the US, I believe.

We just had a San Diego woman shot by a sheriff's deputy when she walked out of her house to investigate what the police were doing there. They had reports of a prowler, but instead of announcing, the deputy just shot her without warning. The thing is, she used to work for ?Homeland Security? or another similar government agency, and her husband is an ex-cop, so their story is very credible. Thankfully, she was only hit in the hand.