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Zmaj (215 D(B))
20 Jul 12 UTC
EoG: WTA-GB-149
Killed SplitDiplomat... again! This isn't challenging any more.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
23 Jan 12 UTC
Last Person to Post Wins
Come on, you know you want to win.

Go ahead and lock it, mods. Then *I win*!
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Gunfighter06 (224 D)
20 Jul 12 UTC
New Game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=95072#gamePanel
Pretty standard game. 10 D buy in, 24 hour phases, classic map, PPSC. We need five more.
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lacorp (100 D)
19 Jul 12 UTC
Game Pause
I'm running a private game with some friends (http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=94862), and one just found out he doesn't have wifi at the hotel he'll be staying in for a day or two. Everyone, except the guy who has no internet, has issues a pause vote. He can't issue one, because he can't access the site. Could a mod please help here?
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JECE (1248 D)
08 Jul 12 UTC
What is this?
http://95.211.128.12/webdiplomacy/
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
08 Jul 12 UTC
Looks like a URL for an internet website .....
Alderian (2425 D(S))
08 Jul 12 UTC
It appears to be the IP address that webdiplomacy.net resolves to.
JECE (1248 D)
08 Jul 12 UTC
Well, it appears to be this website! Check out the forum. Why would it exist, though?
Tolstoy (1962 D)
08 Jul 12 UTC
95.211.128.12 is the Internet Protocol (IP) Address of the server that Webdiplomacy runs on. /webdiplomacy/ is the directory of the web server that the site runs from (a physical web server can host many websites). When you type in "http://webdiplomacy.net", a Domain Name System server translates that into the IP address (95.211.128.12) for you so your computer knows what server to ask for the website, then your browser sends a request to the web server to send the webpage. Normally the server knows what site on the server to send because your browser sends the URL ("http://webdiplomacy.net") in the request to the server, but if you access the server solely by IP (as in this example), you have to specify which website you want - which is why there's the "/webdiplomacy/" after the IP address in your URL.
TBroadley (178 D)
08 Jul 12 UTC
I believe this address was used for a short time rather than the "webdiplomacy.net" domain, after kestas did an update to the webdip code. I can't remember what the problem was though.
JECE (1248 D)
08 Jul 12 UTC
Tolstoy: So every website can be reached that way, directly through the IP address?
Alderian (2425 D(S))
08 Jul 12 UTC
@TBroadley, I had forgotten about that. When webdip was moved from the old host that had lots of timeout issues to the new host that has kicked ass, for a few days we had to access the new host via the IP address since the DNS servers take a bit to update.
Bohonk (1918 D)
08 Jul 12 UTC
5 mins! need 2 more!!!! gameID=94087
JECE (1248 D)
08 Jul 12 UTC
Alderian: When was that? After we were already WebDiplomacy instead of phpDiplomacy?
Troodonte (3379 D)
08 Jul 12 UTC
There is also www.webdiplomacy.net which is different from just webdiplomacy.net as when I access it I have to log in again and it doesn't happen in webdiplomacy.net.
The Czech (39715 D(S))
08 Jul 12 UTC
The 95.211.128.12 came about when Kestas switched from a shared server, which was slow and screwed up live games, to the current server. Thank those with bronze, silver and gold badges for donating.
Tolstoy (1962 D)
08 Jul 12 UTC
"Tolstoy: So every website can be reached that way, directly through the IP address?"

Kind of. A lot of web servers require the browser to send a header (the name of the site, like "webdiplomacy.net") in addition to the IP, because you may have 100 websites hosted on a server with only a single IP address, and the server has no way of knowing which site you're looking for if you ask for just the IP address.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
09 Jul 12 UTC
@JECE, what The Czech said. Was about a year or so ago I think.
JECE (1248 D)
09 Jul 12 UTC
Alderian: That would explain it. I don't think I was around then. I wasn't active when the badges were introduced.

Tolstoy: I should try that out with a random website sometime.
Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Jul 12 UTC
Www.webdiplomacy.net resolves to through same physical address, but because it is a different URL, it can't read WebDiplomacy.net's cookies. That is why you have to login if you type that URL. It's a security thing.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
10 Jul 12 UTC
Yes and no Draug. What you stated is accurate, yes. But it doesn't fully answer the underlying question.

Why doesn't webdiplomacy.net forward to www.webdiplomacy.net or vice versa as some/many websites do?
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
10 Jul 12 UTC
If you're interested in ip's for websites open the command prompt on your computer and type in "ping www.yahoo.com" or any site you want and it will give you an ip for the site. You can generally get to a site using the ip, though bigger sites like yahoo and google have many ip's. And yes, I know this is a simple explanation.
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Jul 12 UTC
That's a matter of configuration. They have both DNS entries pointed to the same physical site instead of having one point to a redirector that forwards with address change. It's as easy as setting up a sub under the WebDiplomacy folder that is called Redir and having a default.html or index.html that has a simple redirection in it and pointing the one you want redirected to that subdirectory under the main directory. Kestas can do it/have it done.
JECE (1248 D)
19 Jul 12 UTC
So http://75.119.192.91/greatplay/ doesn't work because of a configuration issue, then?
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
19 Jul 12 UTC
Is it too late to answer Bob Ghengishkhan?
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 Jul 12 UTC
@JECE - So what site is at http://75.119.192.91? And I don't mean Bob GenghisKhan. I'm asking for real here.
JECE (1248 D)
19 Jul 12 UTC
greatplay.net

I'm just trying to do the same thing as http://95.211.128.12/webdiplomacy/ with another website.
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 Jul 12 UTC
OK, well, they may not have named the directory "greatplay". That is just what is called a virtual directory and may be a name totally different from the URL's name.

Here is how a website works...

Website is created as files (executables/scripts/etc) in a physical directory tree (like WebDiplomacy)
Then the web server creates a virtual directory to that physical one which may or may not have the same name as the physcial one. This is called the root of that website.

Then the DNS entry points to the IP address and virtual directory of the web server with what may be yet another name (i.e. www.webdiplomacy.net).

That is for a simple one. When you get into load balancing high volume and high visibility like Google or Bing, the DNS points to a load balancer that knows all the IPs and virtual directories of all the boxes hosting copies of that site and, in the case of something like Google or Amazon, those sites may point to another load balancer when they go to get the data from the database server. In the case of WebDip, we have one server does both (I don't think Kestas got a separate MySQL server for the price he paid) and we only have one instance of the web server the DNS entry points to directly.
JECE (1248 D)
19 Jul 12 UTC
I'm not sure whether I understood all that, but I seem to have learned something from Draugnar. I feel so ashamed.
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 Jul 12 UTC
What? Cause it's me you learned something from? Well fine. Go talk to an amateur instead of the expert. I may be a troll and hyper on occasion, but I do know what I do for a living. :-)


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Sargmacher (0 DX)
18 Jul 12 UTC
So, what caused the 2008-2015 Great Recession?
Anyone?
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sturgeon (100 D)
19 Jul 12 UTC
Is there a mod online?
I have emailed an urgent pause request for gameID=94815
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jacobcfries (783 D)
16 Jul 12 UTC
Mods Available to check email?
I have sent the mods an email. Hopefully someone is online.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
19 Jul 12 UTC
Replacement Europe Needed
In a good position, third world power; allied with two top powers. Unfortunately CD'd. PM me for the ID if you've got any interest.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
19 Jul 12 UTC
Who do you think the BGK party will put on the ticket this fall?
Hint: His initials are the party's initials.
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emfries (0 DX)
19 Jul 12 UTC
Mods Please Check Your Email, No Rush Though
The title says it all. Seriously, no rush though.
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Ben e Boy (101 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
Bug in World Diplomacy variant: Moscow fleet movement
It seems a fleet in Moscow cannot move along the coast to Ukraine or Armenia, even though the standard rules would allow it to do so and there does not appear to be a special case rule prohibiting it.
8 replies
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iMurk789 (100 D)
18 Jul 12 UTC
If you draw with CD country in the game...
Does the CD player count as having drawn also? Or do I have to conquer all their SC's so that they don't get a cut?
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
Are the mods allowed to force a draw because of utterly egregious mass CDing?
Like, 4 players?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
If You Have A Problem With My Views, My Demeanor, or Me...Draugnar & Co.
Tell me. Write me a PM. Tell me in a post. I make myself a large enough target I can--and have to--take it. I have no problem with that. (However, creating a thread about me and telling me not to bother post or pay heed while your congregation evaluates me as a poster and person and shares how much of a prick you all think I am with others while claiming *I* am the one without class...and worse--if you're going to call me shit, at least "say it to my face," as it were.
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
04 Jul 12 UTC
WDC
I am still trying to figure out if I can do this event. Is anyone else on here going? Other than ava, gram and jim.....
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
18 Jul 12 UTC
Chinese propaganda makes a good point about American propaganda
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/07/chinese-propaganda-makes-good-point-about-american-propaganda/54650/
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Maniac (184 D(B))
15 Jul 12 UTC
What words offend you?
Following Rio Ferdinand's recent tweet where he laughed at someone calling Ashley Cole a 'choc-ice' what names offend you or should we all grow thicker skins (Ashley appears to have done this already)
87 replies
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
14 Jul 12 UTC
abge's Craft Corner
Draug and I had started to have a fun talk about woodworking and I've just finished another one of my lamps, so I thought this would be a good time to have another thread on crafts and hobbies. Here's the newest lamp:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SVLy_oBKlxU/UAH4qtUHbHI/AAAAAAAAAO4/YZJSHwq8ql8/w519-h519/IMG_20120714_141939.jpg
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Maniac (184 D(B))
17 Jul 12 UTC
Suggestion for updating phases and sayings.
I propose that 'it could cost an arm and a leg' should now be, 'it cold cost me a kidney and three pints of blood' please make you own suggestions for updating sayings. As safe as the bank of England is one that needs looking at...
2 replies
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ulytau (541 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
What can ruin your chances for presidency?
As little as an unorthodox appearance?
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
18 Jul 12 UTC
Gunboat-345
Are you fucking kidding me?!
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RickStar3443 (176 D)
18 Jul 12 UTC
Gunboat 344
NEEDS TO DRAW FRANCE!!!!
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cteno4 (100 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
When your position looks hopeless, what do you do?
Fight it tooth and nail until the end?
Become somebody's puppet?
Attack everybody and giggle like a schoolgirl? ("I did it for the lulz!!!!")
CD out?
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emfries (0 DX)
15 Jul 12 UTC
Reducing Resigns
Would it be possible to create a system that allows for the creator of a new game to but a max resign percentage required to join the game? I have no idea how hard it would be to code, but I'm just thinking allowed. It could be an advanced option, with the default having no limit. Another idea could be to add in a penalty for resigns (in advanced options). Any thoughts?
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LanGaidin (1509 D)
15 Jul 12 UTC
Public Press Game - call for players
I rarely play public press, but I am hoping to bring in some players that I haven't yet had the pleasure (that I can remember) of lining up against. The only criteria, and sole reason for the public press, is that you must lob insults or banter w/ allies and foes alike. Thus, I'd like to personally invite Nigee and Zultar along w/ 4 other random persons that would be interested.
12 replies
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
13 Jul 12 UTC
*** Webdip Inter-Galactic Championship 2012***
....call for players.
97 replies
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andreakn (100 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
Dictionary for newcomers
Hello everyone! just discovered webdiplomacy.net and joined my first game this week. (this is my first forum post as well)
Is there a dictionary for the terms/abbreviations you guys are slinging in the forum? I've come across a couple I don't understand: "CD", "WTA", "gunboat".
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yebellz (729 D(G))
17 Jul 12 UTC
Country Color Palettes
Just wanted to discuss the aesthetics/practicality of the country color palette, not necessarily of only this website, but of the game and its various print editions in general.
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timdcoltsfan (1099 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
Team game on Vdip. Grab a buddy and join.
There is a two player team game starting soon. Only a few spots left. Grab a friend and come join and see if you can win with a teammate. This is not meta gaming at all. It is being allowed to have two friends join and play as a team. Stated so in the rules and on the forum on Vdip. So if you like playing with a teammate and would like to play a game for sure to be allies and no issues of complaints. Join: http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=8986
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