i did not use the following game types:

games that ended before 1904
7-way draws
games with clear indications of multi-accounting
games in which 3 or more players resigned

When Austria Draws, Who Else Draws?
Germany 59%
England 49%
Italy 44%
France 43%
Russia 38%
Turkey 32%

When Austria is Defeated, Who Solos?
Russia 30%
Turkey 25%
France 16%
Italy 12%
Germany 11%
England 6%

When Austria Solos, Who's Eliminated?
Turkey 72%
Russia 60%
Italy 58%
Germany 51%
France 32%
England 20%

Mean Year of an Austrian Solo: 1911

Best Allies: England, Germany
Greatest Adversaries: Russia, Turkey

Much of the information that i saw here was what i expected. the most startling bits of info was when i saw the sharp increase in english performance when austria does well. german statistics were to be expected since austria and germany are the tightest allies money can buy. when austria solos, england was the least likely country to be eliminated (makes sense), when austria is defeated, england had the lowest percentage of solo wins (very shocking) and when austria drew, england had the second highest liklihood of drawing as well only behind the obvious germany.

russia and turkey also were no brainers taking home the highest win pct's when austria is defeated and highest eliminations when austria solos.

@masterninja...um, im sorry for the inconvenience. i didnt know i participated in giving you that reputation.

I think Austria being defeated would be a fairly obvious indication that England wouldn't be likely to solo as Austria's defeat is essentially a prerequisite to either Turkey or Russia gaining a solo victory.

thanks Ninja, great stats. will you be releasing each country one by one?

Umm fuckhead- get mods on it- my wins come from losers like you, ALL in live games where you get bored, tired or abandon....

So i am not cheating and have no issue declaring my email addy, location, name blah blah

I first came across the E/A interdependence, when reading up on the Swedish "Diplomacy Guide", that was released back in the early 90'ies.

However, I am curious wheter not the same relation exist between G/T (very likely imho)!

Would indeed be very interesting if you produced more stats ! Good work!

I only take advantage of the players here, and i LOVE fast games, esier points;)

What are talking about masterninja? Who is a fuckehead? What do you want the mods to do? Who said you were cheating?

Tru Ninja think i am multi accounting when i am not, spyman

masterninja, please take your conversation to it's own thread, this one is busy having interesting facts of it's own.

@masterninja: No one has accused you of multi-accounting in this thread. Please take your childish abuse elsewhere.

@LJ yes i agree with that assessment since the stats do agree, but i find it interesting that its not just in that fashion but across the board in all of the stats presented, even when austria does well.

@sean yes, i will cover all the countries in alphabetic order. england is next

@Tru Ninja - Thank you for this, great addition. Would you like help? (Or would you prefer to rely on your own sense of judgment when selecting qualifying games?)

@masterninja - That was the most insane self conversation I've ever seen on this site.

Masterninja, congrats!
I will have to add you to my honorable trolls list

@sayjo i welcome any help youd like to offer! feel free to post additional finding /thoughts/insights. all im doing is collecting the first 100 (consecutive) qualifying games and disregarding any that arent viable games. i dont want people to necessarily view this as my work. i post the stats and leave everything open to the interpretation of others (adding my own insights as well).

Can't Ghostie pull out his databases and do this for you? He'll also have a lot more then a 100 games to use....

Hellalt- i take it you do not even know what the term Troll pertains to?

Hmm

You tell me! :P

i can access all 9k games on this site. size isnt the issue. it just takes time to calculate. i select 100 games since you want a sample size of at least 30 and i dont want to go thru all 9k+ games. i dont know TGM's capabilities with whatever programs he has available to him.

hes welcome to do this though. i just took the initiative.

This is a great start Tru Ninja, and must have taken considerable effort on your part to sift through the games.

As has been pointed out is that if you write a program, Ghost (and Kestas obviously) have access to the database of game information and the entire process can be automated for you. This would lend considerably more accuracy as well as save you some time.

I took some inspiration from this and made my own stats from diplomacy games to see if there is any progression in the success of countries. I won't interfere though with your more in-depth study. Nice job!

I would actually like to know how you select the 100 games. Do you do it randomly? If so (and you should, otherwise the statistics aren't really valid...), how? Have you considered using a larger sample size? 100 of 9000 is fairly low, though not necessarily likely to be inaccurate.

Is there a database dump or something available? I'd like to play around with some statistics as well.

@chrisp i could write a program in java but i wouldnt even begin to have the time.

@pyro i just use the finished games section of this site and select the first 100 normal games. yes, a larger sample size is always better but since i dont have the time to study the population, i must simply leave it at a sample of the population. i could do it over 200 but ultimately, i dont think that the stats would vary by much. there may be a few percentage points changed here or there but the outcomes would be similar and we would come to the same conclusions.

@beza outside the finished games database, i dont know what youd be looking for.