Why does this issue cause so many problems on this server? Is it to hard just to shrug it off and move on? or at least have a bit more information then a list of log on times and what they definatly mean?

Cause i have issues with this "proof", two issues actualy.

First with the loading times on the page sometimes, have you ever been successfully able to think about and plug in the moves for 8 units in under 60 seconds? then do it Again for 5 in the same amount of time? I havnt, to me this game requires a bit of though and so it takes at least 2 minutes to get all my moves plugged in.

Second, if your proof is that they were all logged in around the same time and made moves, that happens spontaniously, check this out:
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# Razz (52) as Turkey (): 1 units
Last logged in: 03:08 PM
# Valathorn (6) as Austria (): 15 units
Last logged in: 03:17 PM
# wawlam59 (2) as England (): 8 units
Last logged in: 03:19 PM

now granted the times arn't as close, but maybe thats because Razz is smart enought to find a way to do this without tipping anyone off?

OR, its 3 DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

Now i have read thru the FAQ, and the Help section here, neither state that if these are teh same people that they cant do what they might be doing.

So, live and learn, if u dont want to play with them, dont, or if you end up in a game with them, find a quick ally and fry one. In the end stop cluttering up the forum with these finger pointing, whines to the admins about a precieved slight against you in all your diplomatic glory. If its broken, they'll fix it, posting 3 times a day about it wont make them fix it any faster, its just annoying.

Thanks for reporting the matter, Razz.

I'm sure this has been noted before, but it seems to me that the points system has made the multis thrive on a specific group.

This is based on the fact that most people who post complaining about multis have relatively few points, meaning they cannot join very high profile games. The games that im normally involved with that have a larger buy-in never have noticable multi-accounters.

I think that the points system has compressed the multis into a specific group, whereas before we were all effected slightly by multis now players with less than about 500 points have to deal with all the multis and the points-rich players do not.

There doesnt seem an obvious way to combat this but it seems unfair that what are probably very good quality new players have to deal with this problem alone, i think that eventually it could make people less willing to play properly and force more and more people to become multi-accounters. I guess its just something we will have to deal with.

Yes, but seems that we have no way to solve this problem.

"There doesnt seem an obvious way to combat this"
[Dusts off tired old suggestion.] How about returning to the old system? aoe3rule's created a list of reliable players, a process that did not involve finger-pointing etc, just players vouching for others that they have played with who are reliable. My thinking was that one could create password protected games and invite 5 people from the list and one person not on the list.

Brisreb, there's certainly more to it than just the login times .. the other players in the game were complaining of it because of the suspicious play before I took over the CD country; the join dates of the 2nd and 3rd accounts being the same day, the join dates of the 4th-7th accounts being the same hour of the same day ..

I posted here out of courtesy to let others know if they see those account names in games, and more specifically because i totally fail to understand the reasoning .... WHY would anyone do it? Is there some satisfaction to be gained from it? Is it because they don't understand the game and are trying to learn? I'm more interested in delving into the psychology of it.

Razz, its been tryed. Trust me, i use to plan on here on a different account before the summer and at the time this issue really did bug me. So i'd post rants and comments and discussions about it on here, and in the end, it amounted to nothing other then headaches.

I am not saying i have anything against you mate, far from it. Just that through observation, posting stuff on here that names names and points fingers does nothing more then aggrivate the situation and cause people to get upset and as another post near this one called Bye Bye illustrates, cause people to quit because they can't play in a game without getting teamed up on because of suspected multi accounting.

To me this just shows that this is not the way this should be delt with, and another way needs to be found.

Till a form of reporting program can be made, or thought up, i'd just rather these accusation posts were replaced by something else. I dont know what, but all i know is that this way of doing it doesn't help..

You really think we are the same person.. I can not prof that we are different people. Lll I can say is, wait until the end on the game.
But...we are also playing together in other game (Still time) and on that game you can see clearly that we are not the same person.
The main problem is that the game have a password.. So you have to ask to admin... I think....

hmm... okay. *dusts off the age old list*

http://www.freewebs.com/hiimme333html/rdp.html

All that I can say is that we are not the same person.
And exacly for this reason, of pointing fingers whinning, we have a game that is closed.

well, then, i never thought i'd say this, but "Yay, finger-pointing!"

Razz it seems to me that you're a loser.
We are all diferent people IRL and ofc diferent players.

I'm available to respond to the Administrator about it, not fair to
come here and post about people like that.

I refused to make alliance with you now live with that.
The game its being fun and challenge, lets keep it that way.

Hint: If you want to make alliance with others, speak polite then you might have an ally ingame.