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brainbomb (290 D)
06 Nov 16 UTC
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There will be no indictment
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_581f8ff5e4b0aac62485196a
Let that sink in. Checkmate
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Hannibal76 (100 D(B))
09 Nov 16 UTC
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To Americans
Learn from this mistake. When given a chance to elect someone like Bernie again, do it. Don't go for the person that's a part of the establishment. It could've been Bernie getting ready for his victory speech now. You threw that chance away when you LET the establishment decide Bernie wouldn't win. Learn from this mistake so that you don't make it again. Better luck next time.
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KingCyrus (511 D)
08 Nov 16 UTC
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Election Central
Post political predictions, petitions, and prayers here and only here for the next 48 hours.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
08 Nov 16 UTC
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ADVERTISE YOUR VICTORY PARTIES HERE
Advertise your victory parties here and only here.
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TrPrado (461 D)
08 Nov 16 UTC
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TrPrado Victory Party
That's right, we're looking ahead to 2048, when I've won that presidential election.
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
08 Nov 16 UTC
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Philadelphia Eagles Victory Party
Error: 404 - wins not found
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
04 Nov 16 UTC
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I'm at Carnage!
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JECE (1248 D)
05 Nov 16 UTC
RIP phpDiplomacy
It looks like phpdiplomay.net stopped working recently.

Have we forever lost our old URL?
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
08 Nov 16 UTC
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Bernie Sanders Victory Party
POTUS bros. He can still win this!
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sleepsinallday (130 D)
05 Nov 16 UTC
Polarization Self-Assessment Thread
Politics has changed A LOT in the past ten years ago. In this thread, I'd like to encourage you all to think about your past political views and how greatly you've polarized over time. What issues do you care about today vs then? Why? Any original ideas or do you rely on the media for cues? Interested to hear some real self-assessment here! :)
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dr. octagonapus (210 D)
28 Oct 16 UTC
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Im bored, and I havn't played in ages 2.0
I'd like to set up a round of games to stretch some old diplomacy muscles.
not fussed about pot size but im looking to start a round of games with 6 others.
Games will be 24-36 hours, gunboat, SoS, hidden draws
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LordPulpo (165 D)
08 Nov 16 UTC
Game starting without a full roster?
If a game hasn't been filled with players by the time it is scheduled to start, what happens? Does the game terminate or start anyway?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Nov 16 UTC
Best line of today.
... See inside
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Duhbill (105 D)
07 Nov 16 UTC
Live Game Discussion
Why is it that all (or most rather) live games are gunboat these days? I miss playing a fast game where people actually communicate and work together like how most of the games on here are played. Any idea why? D:
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President Eden (2750 D)
05 Nov 16 UTC
Come Make Diplomacy Great Again with me!
gameID=185056

Competitive buy-in, sum of squares scoring cuz we play to WIN and win BIGLY here. Identities and draw votes public, no private positions allowed here. All are welcome if you can nimbly navigate the points wall. Make great deals, have fun, WIN, make Diplomacy great again!!
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
07 Nov 16 UTC
New High Quality Game
I made this incredibly high quality game with high quality settings for high quality players, but none of them want to join for some reason.

So the password is fuckghug, go ahead and join if you want to: gameID=185256
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Yoyoyozo (65 D)
07 Nov 16 UTC
PJ Gunboat (the return - yet again) Results and Discussion
So 3 of the games are already finished. Someone wanted me to dig up the original thread but it's locked. Long live the thread.
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Red-Lion (382 D)
05 Nov 16 UTC
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Post here if you're a member of
the triple digit, mile-high RR club! 100% Reliability rating here!

Just noticed that blackmongoose was also checking in at 100%. Good man!
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Fluminator (1500 D)
02 Nov 16 UTC
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Post in this thread and positivity
Lately I feel I've been too cynical and negative so I need to change that.
Post something, a person or thing and I'll find something positive about it.
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Magnus Chase (94 DX)
06 Nov 16 UTC
Sorry Moderators
I have to go because I didn't plan my timing well:
Sorry for interrupting the live game and going CD:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=185188
Good luck to all still playing.
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ND (879 D)
05 Nov 16 UTC
Democratic Elector refuses to back Clinton
A Democratic Elector in the Electoral College refuses to vote for Clinton. This means that Clinton now needs 271 electoral votes to win!
http://www.ksla.com/story/33631175/the-latest-wa-democratic-elector-wont-vote-for-clinton
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stranger (525 D)
05 Nov 16 UTC
players wanted for a good old game of dip
Hello y'all I'd like to play a good game, wasn't really active on this site for a few years now but I played the game f2f a few times this summer and would love to get into the online variant of it a bit more again.

Anyone keen?
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Pompeii (638 D)
06 Nov 16 UTC
Crimes Against Borders
gameID=182808 looking back at this old game and just noticing how absolutely atrocious the borders were at several points during the game. Any of you have any games where the border gore makes you cringe?
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Durga (3609 D)
06 Nov 16 UTC
Social media is hard
Look at this cool new page that I'm sure the mod team just simply forgot to promote!! I'm sure they'd tell you to go like it if they remembered:

https://www.facebook.com/WebDiplomacy-615134375314283/
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JamesYanik (548 D)
06 Nov 16 UTC
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Question about site mechanics
if you mute somebody, and they create a thread, do you still see the thread, or do you have to mute that in-turn too?

just a quick question - nothing big. or polarizing. post answer inside along with non-polarizing details
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
02 Nov 16 UTC
Can't tell if this is right or left wing...
Universal basic income championed by the right in Canada?

Am i correct in assuming that this seems odd?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
05 Nov 16 UTC
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Inner city violence
Reddit AMA about reducing violence: https://m.reddit.com/r/science/comments/5b35qu/science_ama_series_im_charlie_ransford_director/
Any thoughts?
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brainbomb (290 D)
02 Nov 16 UTC
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Vote Arbys - we have the meats
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Ezio (2181 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
Viable Strategies for Austria
Whenever I play Austria I feel like I'm strategically forced to attack Turkey. I think that if Turkey isn't killed in the early game, he is basically forced based to go through Austria if he wants to reach the rest of the world. I know that this can't be the case, but I don't see the other strategies.
I would love to learn of some other options for Austria so I don't do the same thing every time I get it.
Condescension (10 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
I try to Key Lepanto. Every game.
JamesYanik (548 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
in gunboat, this is usually the case. however, there are many different scenarios.

usually Austria bounces in Galicia, although there is also a method in which budapest supports vienna into galicia, which can lead into a strong attack on Romania.

the fleet in trieste generally hits venice/moves to albania - depending on the level of trust with italy. however, there is a strong anti-italy opening in which the fleet in trieste moves to the adriatic, while budapest and vienna move to trieste and tyrolia respectively.

however, these scenarios generally require some more advanced diplomacy, which is unattainable in gunboat.

working with turkey IS possible as Austria: it is just supremely difficult to do
JamesYanik (548 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
Turkey on the flip side, is able to NOT attack Austria purely by maintaining a purely fleet- attacking base. it is very difficult though
peterwiggin (15158 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
Have you ever tried not attacking Turkey? Get him to go to arm/bla/bul, then keep Russia out of Rumania. In 1902/1903, you get Turkey to build fleets, and eventually you want him in Sevastapol and Greece while you get Rumania and Warsaw. By then, you also want to be invading Italy. Once Italy and Russia are crippled, you can stab Turkey, but it's usually better to go for Munich first while Turkey goes for Spain. The goal here is to get your armies into all of Germany and even Paris and Belgium.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
03 Nov 16 UTC
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And then make sure France misorders defending Marseilles
????
Profit
Condescension (10 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
Those alliances never hold out. As Turkey, I start rubbing my hands together when an Austria starts cooperating with me.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
03 Nov 16 UTC
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Defeated: 2 ( 67% )
Survived: 1 ( 33% )

How's that working out for you?
BTW welcome to the site.
peterwiggin (15158 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
I've actually never been stabbed by Turkey in an AT. I get stabbed by Austria all the time though.

eturnage (500 D(B))
03 Nov 16 UTC
I just solo'ed as Austria. I allied with Turkey in Fall of 01 and stuck with it until he was at 12 and I was at 14. Here's the game: gameID=183081 . Turkey Austria is a great early alliance because it is unexpected and is actually very functional. I like opening moves-- AUS: A Bud-Rum; A Vie-Gal; F Tri-Alb; TUR: F Ank-Bla; A Smy-Arm; A Con-Bul as an opening. It's a nasty opening if you're Russia.
brainbomb (290 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
Assuming Italy isnt some fuckstain, F-Alb, Bud-Ser is canon
Ezio (2181 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
I like your idea Peter. I'll give that a shot in some of my games. The big tell is how many armies Turkey builds, correct? If he gets more than 3, he basically has to attack me correct?
brainbomb (290 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
Theres also the Italian buttfuck opening Vienna-Tyrolia, Bud-Trieste, Trieste - Adriatic.
Ezio (2181 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
How does that opening prevent Turkey from expanding into you? Furthermore, once you've captured Italy, doesn't he literally HAVE to attack you? Where else can he go? if he goes into the med he's attacking you, and if he moves over land he's still attacking you.
peterwiggin (15158 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
@eturnage I like you. We should be friends.

@ezio Yeah, you don't really want Turkey to have more than 3 armies unless he's ready to convoy them into France or England. Turkey should be capturing Naples and Tunis from Italy. From there, if he's going into the med, he's not attacking you.
Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
03 Nov 16 UTC
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I've noticed a trend that nobody likes Turkey on this site anymore. RAs are more and more popular than RTs.

ATs are still crap, and the only way I would do that is if Italy and Russia seemed incompetent and Turkey was smart and reasonable.
peterwiggin (15158 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
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And here I thought it was just that nobody liked me when I'm Turkey.

ATs are the best though.
President Eden (2750 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
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Disclaimer: it's been a pretty long time since I've played.

Almost all of the neighboring alliances you can construct run into the problem of the Stalemate Line. The board neatly divides into fifteen supply centers on the north or west end of the Line, and sixteen on the south or east of the Line, with three centers on the Line that could plausibly fall to someone on either side: Tunisia, Berlin, and Munich. (St. Petersburg and Marseilles are also on the Line, but are very hard to take from the south/east side and, in St. Petersburg's case, is impossible to hold from that side.) Even if you captured all of the at-large Line centers, you would still need all but 1-2 centers on your side to win.

For powers near or on the Stalemate Line -- Russia, Germany, Italy, and to a lesser extent France and Austria -- you're less bound to get those centers, because you can plausibly advance deep beyond the Line in one or more spheres after the initial free-for-all for board position in the first few years of the game. This is why you see Russia-Italy and France-Germany alliances form so readily: not only do they have a common initial target to seize supply centers (Austria and England respectively), they also have a very realistic road to victory that doesn't involve the other's demise.

But for a power like Turkey? You start so far away from the Line that it basically dictates your entire strategy. Unless you have a massive breakout in the Mediterranean and into the Atlantic, you're going to have to conquer Austria to get to eighteen centers. You can't realistically advance into Germany (because that's Austria's natural path of expansion in an AT alliance), and St. Petersburg and Scandinavia are too hard to attack from the south (and trivial to defend from the south). If you're playing to win, then you cannot regard Austria as a long-term ally... and in a different sense from how, say, France "can't" regard Germany as one. France can get to 13-14 centers by conquering England and surging through the Mediterranean (which isn't particularly difficult to do), which means that it can just make one strategic last-minute stab of Germany to win. Turkey can maybe get to 10 before it's either got to extend all the way into the Atlantic or stab Austria. There's a whole other step *after* taking down Austria to win the game.

The same is true for Turkey and Italy, and in practice true for Turkey and Russia. (Russia is Turkey's most reasonable choice of ally, since Turkey can get more centers out of Austria + Italy than it can out of Russia + Italy, meaning that it doesn't have to work as hard in the Atlantic. But Turkey is almost strictly worse than either of Russia's other options in southern Europe, since they would end up occupying the same board space and role as Turkey would, but would be closer to the Stalemate Line and thus less pressed to go for Russia's centers.) That's probably why Turkey isn't well-liked (and the same more or less holds true for England as well).
Magnus Chase (94 DX)
04 Nov 16 UTC
Key Lepanto is very refreshing when it works. Especially the variation in which the Italian army goes overland instead of being convoyed.
Ogion (3882 D)
04 Nov 16 UTC
I have to say, I really don't much like Austria. It seems that any time you have even reasonable progress in one direction, you'll get clobbered out of the blue by the other. This last time, I was making progress against Turkey, with Russia already kicked in the head, then Germany decides to ignore England and france and come charging at Vienna. This part of the larger pet peeve of being attacked by players who are them selves being invaded such that they lose their home centers but are still attacking you anyway like the detached head of some vicious insect.

grouse, grouse, grouse!


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brainbomb (290 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
Takes bow
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=184989&msgCountryID=0
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