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Strauss (1872 D)
27 Nov 14 UTC
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Bridge Builder
Some Pontifex here to claim to have the nicest or most inexpensive bridges?
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Nov 14 UTC
What's the name of a picture/movie that changes and transitions smoothly in a loop?
So what I mean is that you don't really notice it's a loop unless you're paying close attention because the end of the loop fits perfectly on the start of the loop. There's no strong feeling of repetition. Just a 'background' continuously moving.
Just looking for the word for such a thing. I saw one quite a while ago and thought I could use one of those in a design, but now I finally have the time to do something with it, I forgot what it's called :-(
Help me webdip!
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
27 Nov 14 UTC
Gunboat: Playing as Russia
When, in a gunboat game, in the Spring 1901 moves, England, Germany, Austria and Turkey all make an anti-Russia opening, what is Russia supposed to do, exactly?
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Bayclown (0 DX)
05 Nov 14 UTC
WebDiplomacy History Thread
After hearing about that Congo shit I was wondering what other scandals/notorious players/legendary stories there are buried in the annals of this site. I assume some of the elder players would know some of the lore I speak of and can weave some tales of old?
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Zach0805 (100 D)
26 Nov 14 UTC
Iran
USA Secretary of State,John Kerry, has anouced that Iranian Nuclear Talks will be extended for another 7 months. Discuss.
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rmf (100 D)
25 Nov 14 UTC
Is it normal for people to sign up for very slow games (10 days/phase) and stay quiet?
I am relatively new to webDip. From the little experience I have here, I get the impression that it is not uncommon for very slow games to be pretty quiet. I've had no replies at all from some parties, even though they are giving orders. Is this usual? I thought very slow games would have lots and lots of diplomatic talk.
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2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
25 Nov 14 UTC
Was Moses a Founding Father?
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/11/was-moses-a-founding-father/383153/
phil_a_s (0 DX)
25 Nov 14 UTC
This is major league disturbing. I've read and seen fiction which is miles closer to factual history than this stuff is.
2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
25 Nov 14 UTC
I'm enjoying a read through an examination of textual errors and misinformation:

http://www.tfn.org/site/DocServer/FINAL_executivesummary.pdf?docID=4625

For example:

The text states: “South of the Sahara Desert most of the people before the Age of Explorations
were black Africans of the Negro race.”
Elsewhere, the text states: “The first known inhabitants of Africa north of the Sahara in prehistory
were Caucasoid Hamitic people of uncertain origin.”
What’s Wrong?
First, the term "Negro" is archaic and fraught with ulterior meaning. It should categorically not be
used in a modern textbook. Further, the first passage is unforgivably misleading because it
suggests that all black native Africans belong to a single "racial" group. This is typological thinking,
which disappeared largely from texts after the 1940s. It harkens back to the racialization theory
that all people could be classified as one of three “races”: Caucasoid, Mongoloid, or Negroid.
Better to omit all the language in this passage referring to outdated racial categories.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
25 Nov 14 UTC
Amos Moses was a Cajun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7GyLr7Cz2g
Code Bomb (100 D)
25 Nov 14 UTC
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This article is something that you'd read on The Onion.
Kallen (1157 D)
25 Nov 14 UTC
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I got cancer from reading that...
TrPrado (461 D)
25 Nov 14 UTC
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"Board Members David Bradley and Ken Mercer denied that the Constitution mandates the separation of church and state, and offered $1,000 to anyone who could prove the stipulation exists." Easiest $1,000 anyone could ever make.
TrPrado (461 D)
25 Nov 14 UTC
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You know, this seems like an unusually perfect place to insert a 1984 reference.
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
25 Nov 14 UTC
Did they even READ the Constitution? Some people...
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Nov 14 UTC
They read it the way they wanted it to be written, not the way the writers actually wrote it.
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Nov 14 UTC
They wrote it the way they wanted to read it, actually. The textbooks were actually written to appease a more conservative mindset of history. I suggest you read the document from the Texas Freedom Network that 2WL posted if you haven't already done so.
ag7433 (927 D(S))
26 Nov 14 UTC
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One thing I'm thankful for is knowing that bo_sox48 can shed light into the founding father's intentions. This is the real reason why I donated to this site.
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Nov 14 UTC
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Oh, ha, didn't know what bo was talking about.
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Nov 14 UTC
But, no, seriously, they probably didn't actually read it.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Nov 14 UTC
Ag, it's not exactly hard to figure out how they intended it based simply on linguistics of the time (which are hardly different than those of today) and the political views of those that drafted it. But I don't know why I expect you not to somehow twist that into something that intentionally degrades my character for no reason.
ag7433 (927 D(S))
26 Nov 14 UTC
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Don't be so pious assuming to know more than another group. Each group states the same argument about "knowing the times" to make the debate fit their side. I'm just stating that once again you're a pot calling the kettle black.

I'm ok with it, and am willing to be your mentor as you go through this revelation. Once you admit it, and accept it, then peace will come.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Nov 14 UTC
I don't even know what that means.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Nov 14 UTC
Lol, are you trying to convert me or something
ag7433 (927 D(S))
26 Nov 14 UTC
hah, convert you to what? I've not even stated a side to convert you towards.
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Nov 14 UTC
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" seems pretty straightforward to me.
semck83 (229 D(B))
26 Nov 14 UTC
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I've been very frustrated with the coverage of this story, because very rarely do the news stories actually say just what the textbooks teach. The "Moses was a founding father" comment came from a critical history professor characterizing the books, not from the books.

That's not to say the books are good. I'm sure they're pretty bad. But I have no way of judging how bad, because we are only told the summaries of their harshest critics.

(Some of whom are fairly ignorant themselves. For example, one of the professors who has been most critical of mentioning Moses also lambasted them for saying William Blackstone was a big influence on the Constitution, because "Blackstone believed all societies should require some form of absolute, unchallengeable sovereign power." That may be true, but it's patently obvious that Blackstone was a major influence on the Constitution and the whole legal climate in which it was written (not for saying that, but for delineating the legal rights of Englishmen, the law of property, etc.)

So actually I really appreciate 2WL's post, which is the lone one I've seen that does provide some detail.

Having skimmed it, I'd say I agree with many of its critiques (though it's false that the books say or imply that Moses was a founding father). The document is wrong to contest the textbooks in pointing out that "separation of church and state" does not appear in the Constitution -- that's an important thing to understand even for those who support such a separation, since it has huge influence on how it is interpreted through the clauses that actually do appear; nor is its application to American law in the least uncontroversial, even on the Supreme Court. So it's a perfectly reasonable thing to say.

Among the rest, a lot of the criticisms are fair, several nitpicky, but generally they probably are errors. Unfortunately, many or most American textbooks are rife with such errors. These ones did not stand out relative to other textbooks I've seen reviewed, though the errors probably had a tendency to be those a careless conservative would make, rather than those a careless liberal would make (as in some textbooks) or that somebody careless of indeterminate persuasion would make (as in still others).

So, too bad this is all so politicized. The left will rightly scream about the conservative errors and skew, while nobody much will care about the fact that the books are terrible to begin with, and still would be if there were no skew.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Nov 14 UTC
"I'm ok with it, and am willing to be your mentor as you go through this revelation. Once you admit it, and accept it, then peace will come."

That's what the wandering missionary would say when he knocks on my door.
ag7433 (927 D(S))
26 Nov 14 UTC
Oh that, yes, I was trying to convert you to ag7433ism.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Nov 14 UTC
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Nah, hell sounds better to me. Thanks though.
ag7433 (927 D(S))
26 Nov 14 UTC
=)
JECE (1322 D)
26 Nov 14 UTC
TrPrado: What aspect of 1984 were you referring to? :-)
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Nov 14 UTC
Changing or rewriting history to be more fitting and consistent with their ideology.
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Nov 14 UTC
Note, I never said it was nearly as drastic as in 1984.
JECE (1322 D)
26 Nov 14 UTC
MiniTruth :-)

I think doublethink is also fundamental here as always.
oscarjd74 (100 D)
26 Nov 14 UTC
Clearly the first amendment which describes the separation of church and state was inspired by Lucifer. Giving Moses credit but not Lucifer is just plain religious partisan politics which should have no place in publicly funded education.


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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
10 Nov 14 UTC
Scenario Game: World War 1
Anyone interested in trying a WW1 scenario game?
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KingCyrus (511 D)
21 Nov 14 UTC
Executive Action
Today, President Obama said that his administration will grant deferred action on some groups of illegal immigrants. Discuss.
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Mintyboy4 (100 D)
25 Nov 14 UTC
Any Programmers out there?
Yes, Mr webdip programmer person, I'm looking at you!
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
25 Nov 14 UTC
Grand jury doesn't indite Darren Wilson in death of Michael Brown
Thoughts?
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
23 Nov 14 UTC
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Diplomacy Tournament Scoring Methods
I’m starting this thread with two goals:
(1) To further discussion on the three Diplomacy tournament scoring methods I have witnessed
(2) To invite anyone who knows of Diplomacy tournament scoring methods not outlined below to post them. Any and all are welcome.
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
24 Nov 14 UTC
The first ever GR Challenge
http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=399706
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
24 Nov 14 UTC
GR Challenge Sub Needed
I need a sub for Game 3 of the GR Challenge. Please see inside for more info.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
24 Nov 14 UTC
One player needed to start GR Challenge Game
We are short one player to start Game 3 of the GR Challenge. Great group of players. See below for more details. If interested post within.
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metaturbo707 (126 D)
23 Nov 14 UTC
Control active game play time option ?
Hello,

What if it was possible to control the time allowed for game play, such as, "game only active between the hours of X & Y". Then shorter phase games could be played more easily and not at strange hours of the night. Thoughts?
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
21 Nov 14 UTC
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Who deserves the most +1s?
Just +1 this instead. zultar offered the wrong voting options.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
17 Nov 14 UTC
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October 2014 GR Challenge!
You know the drill! Full Press Classic WTA GR Challenge Signup!
Find your GR here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_KSmWyLiG1pSWdQNGVCSUVPNUU/view?usp=sharing
GR. Name (Max Points, Phase Length Preference, Non/Anon)
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ILN (100 D)
23 Nov 14 UTC
Nice idea
https://www.helium.co/#/home
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KingCyrus (511 D)
18 Nov 14 UTC
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This Global Warming is Killing Me
Just got finished snow blowing for about three hours...
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krellin (80 DX)
19 Nov 14 UTC
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Fluid Dynamics
https://haxiomic.github.io/GPU-Fluid-Experiments/html5/?q=UltraHigh

Righteous.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
23 Nov 14 UTC
The burdens of administration
There's something I'd like to discuss with you all.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
23 Nov 14 UTC
NFL Pick 'em Week 12: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow...eh, Buffalo? ;)
So, with Buffalo's game postponed until Monday (and moved to Detroit as, um, Buffalo's sort of buried under snow) and the Raiders having won their first game of the season--and in more than a year!--vs. the rival Chiefs, we enter Week 12. The Lions and Patriots meet in a big clash. Rams//Chargers is an intriguing match-up. Cardinals/Seahawks up in Seattle, and Ravens/Saints on a suddenly-crucial Monday Nighter. Week 12... pick 'em!
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JamesYanik (548 D)
22 Nov 14 UTC
What's the record?
what is the longest time a classic game has been played over (i dont mean how many days i mean # of phases elapsed). The game can have been drawn or won i dont care about that.
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ILN (100 D)
22 Nov 14 UTC
"Merkel runs out of patience with Putin"
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/merkel-runs-out-of-patience-with-putin/article21712671/

Best line in the article:
"Obama is a very weak politician"
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Newmunich (208 D(B))
22 Nov 14 UTC
Proposal to Limit Cancelled Games
The issue with games being cancelled due to Meta-gaming and other infractions has gotten to the point where it is no longer fun to play. Let's solve this!
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StraT^ (350 D)
21 Nov 14 UTC
The webDiplomacy points ruleset is almost perfect, but...
No one should be rewarded for a game that fails to produce a victor. Everyone who bought into a drawn game and didn't leave should receive an even split of the pot. Otherwise you facilitate awful situations like " just kill Austria, then draw" or more intricate draw pacts, which favor anyone who lucked into a difficult-to-kill nation like France.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
10 Nov 14 UTC
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Webdip Sponsored Seasonal Game Fest!!!
The mods and I are sponsoring a seasonal game fest starting with this month. Details inside!
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Accountancy (303 D)
22 Nov 14 UTC
Seasonal Variant Fest: Game 2, gameID=150349
So I know this was mentioned almost a week ago, but I can't find the original thread. We're still waiting on the last player to join this game with less than 24 hours on the clock. Apparently they wanted to join so that it would start on Friday night, well Friday night has been and gone and the game has yet to start...
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
21 Nov 14 UTC
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Who deserves the most +1s? A Friday-existential crisis
Just +1 this!
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