But here is a challneg for you. For every 1000 deaths by pit bull you post here, we'll post one *attack* by another small breed. If you can get us at more than 1000 to 1, I will give the site $100. If you can't you give the site $100. You have 24 hours to find another 994 distinct stories (they must be unique, not the same story reported in multiple sources) or you owe the site $100.

Just man up and pay the $6 cheapskate.

Is cheapskate a word? It looks funny written. I've only ever said it before. Probably like "notta" to people who have never met a Mexican

So now I'm a cheapskate? Who has the gold coin by their name?

Man up and find 994 more or pay $100 to the site.

Cheapskate? I don't care to read your entire conversation ---but I believe I *do* see a gold dot next to Draug...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/17/1171054/-Origins-of-English-Cheapskate

Cheapskate:

The meaning of “cheap” in “cheapskate” is fairly obvious and thus the etymological challenge is to determine the origin of “skate” which is a homonym, meaning that it has lots of unrelated definitions. The meaning of “skate” in “cheapskate” seems to come from British slang and refers to “chap, fellow.” It is based on the Scottish term “skyte” which means “a contemptible person” and this, in turn, comes from an older term that means “excrement”. Etymologically, therefore, cheapskate really means “cheap shit.” Cheapskate first appeared in print in the late nineteenth century (1896).

So you admit that pitbulls deaths are 1000 times more likely? I have to post 1000 for every 1 that you post? And you even emphasized *attack* instead of death, which is what I was emphasizing. It's easy for a little tiny rat dig to bite someone, but rarely does a breed other than a pitbull like someone.

Grrrrr Fucking Autocorrect! Like = kill in that last sentence.

LOL! No, what I admit is that the news has an anti-pitbull bias and is 1000 times more likely to report an attack by one than they are even a German Shepherd or Doberman Pinschers (the infamous "junkyard dog").

Sometimes a skewed level of reporting is due to a skewed level of incidents. Not necessarily a "bias"

And other times it is a bias. Never underestimate the news media's bias. After all, they were the ones launched a little home made missile at a pickup truck to prove it would blow up if rear-ended.

Rear ended by a tomahawk! That was great. Fucking dateline!

so yeah good example of media bias. But it doesn't mean that everything they report is biased. And with pitbulls, I just don't see it. To argue that they aren't responsible for many more deaths than all other breed combined, is to believe a bias of your own.

A pit bull isn't even a breed. It's a made-up category of several somewhat-similar-looking breeds perpetuated by busybodies who look for any excuse or crisis or news incident to belabor the rest of us normally-functioning human beings with thoroughly unnecessary legislation and the politicians who are capable of making a comfy career out of catering to them.

Actually, the AKC calls them thre American Staffordshire Terrier and the UKC calls them the American Pit Bull Terrier. They are a breed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Pit_Bull_Terrier

http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/dog-attack-deaths-maimings-merritt-clifton-2012.pdf

What is interesting is that pit bulls are unusual in that they attack adults & children equally as frequently, whereas most dog breeds attack children more often (for a variety of reasons).

Anyway, pit bull attacks are far and away more frequent than any other dog breed.

Looking at the numbers on that chart, it also shows ownership percent at 4.4%. the next closest bread is 2.8% or only 2/3rds as many dogs. And there is a Chihuahua death amongst those statistics.

Gosh, putin.

I would love to see your reaction if I ever pinned my hopes on the website of some pest control company in Las Vegas to the extent you have.

But since exterminators are your new ultimate source, here are two that contradict yours.

http://www.trianglepest.com/blog/how-prevent-and-eradicate-your-cockroach-infestation

http://arrow-exterminators.com/roaches/

Now, moving onto substance....

"'Show me where I said that.'

"[link ommitted]

"The exact quote was:

" 'Cockroaches are well known to come in through sewer pipes, putin.'"

So I didn't say often. Just like I said I didn't.

That said, you still have yet to grasp the basic point that there is no evidence that it is NOT often.

"Your reading comprehension skills are really off. The very first thing I mentioned from the link said the following:

"'Cockroaches seldom enter homes through sewer lines. Water in the traps beneath the sinks keeps the roaches out. '

"This is what I said. I repeated the 'seldom' point over and over again."

You must really think I'm too lazy to scroll up.

Yes, you did quote the "seldom" quote. But that was after you had already been arguing that they couldn't do it at all. And you didn't return to the "seldom" point again and again, or at all until I posted the study proving you wrong.

Here is another study about the dangers of the cockroach (I found plenty. This is more or less at random. There were many more implicating cockroaches in complications from or causing asthma).

"Domestic cockroaches and human bacterial disease," Frishman and Alcamo, Journal of Pest Control 1977 Vol. 45.

"In 1976 at Farmingdale in New York State, investigations were carried out for a year on the degree to which domestic cockroaches (Blattella germanica (L.), Periplaneta americana (L.) and Blatta orientalis L.) are vectors of bacteria capable of causing food poisoning and other diseases in man. Cockroaches collected from areas close to those where food was prepared or stored in hospitals, nursery schools, shops of various kinds and commercial restaurant kitchens were held with forceps and made to walk across the surfaces of 7 different types of bacteriological culture media, which were then incubated at 37 deg C. Nymphs and adults of all 3 species proved able to carry at least 1 type of bacterium capable of causing food poisoning. All species carried Staphylococcus in medium or high concentrations. Escherichia coli, at high concentrations, was obtained only from Blattella, and Salmonella, at low concentrations, only from Blatta. Streptococcus was obtained from cockroaches in only 2 sites, both of which were hospitals. These results indicate that cockroaches are not only a nuisance but a serious health hazard, and the implications for public health are discussed."

See also the book, "The Medical and Veterinary Importance of Cockroaches" by Roth.

"http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Cockroaches-are-helpful-just-misunderstood-1540874.php

I'm sure you'll tell me entomologists don't know anything about cockroaches either. "

No, they should, but I'd take an epidemiologist or other public health professional over them on a question like this. But if it's entomologists we want, then here:

http://www1.extension.umn.edu/garden/insects/find/cockroaches/

"Many people are repulsed and/or disgusted by the simple presence of cockroaches. However, they are also an important public health problem by contaminating food and eating utensils. Cockroaches are known to carry human pathogens, such as Salmonella and E. coli, which can result in human diseases, such as food poisoning or diarrhea."

If you're going to link Wikipedia, Draugnar, then have a look at the page for pit bulls...

"The pitbull is not a distinct breed which may make it difficult for experts to identify, and while mixed breed dogs are often labelled a "pitbull" if they have certain physical characteristics such as a square shaped head or bulky body type, visual identification of mixed breed dogs is not recommended by the scholarly community."

They aren't a breed.

Oh, and also,

"Hospitals are clean? Are you kidding? Especially in the developing world? Wow you got me there. Especially since they collected them from kitchens and store rooms. Not a chance those would be dirty. "

They also collected from the sterilizing supply cupboard and the open ward. (Way to excise from a source, though).

Also see the extensive literature review at the end of the paper. But oh no, the roach has never killed anybody.

@PE - Woild you accept the AKC and UKC as experts? They both recognize the breed as I pointed out. If the AKC says it is a breed and the UKC says it is, anyone else is simply wrong.