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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
01 Dec 14 UTC
I want a new game
Who wants to kick my ass?
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
01 Dec 14 UTC
Challenge takeover position
gameID=149754 needs a new BC, and the players would rather replace the position than have it CD. Since the game is anonymous, please email [email protected] if you would like to take it.

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4-8-15-16-23-42 (352 D)
01 Dec 14 UTC
Quick and Easy Question
Can a fleet positioned in southern Spain move to Gascony? Or can it support a move to Gascony? Thanks!
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
01 Dec 14 UTC
Anyone for geo-engineering?
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30197085
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4-8-15-16-23-42 (352 D)
01 Dec 14 UTC
Fleet in the South of Spain
Can a fleet in the south of Spain move to Portugal? Can it support an invasion of Portugal from the Mid Atlantic? Thanks.
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Interstellar
I really liked this movie. Of course, the expository sections, wherein astronauts were reminded that light can't escape black holes, were goofy. But I thought it managed to treat ideas like the brevity of human life very effectively, and provocatively. I'm going to be thinking about the movie for a long time. What did you guys think of it?
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
28 Oct 14 UTC
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Interest in Tournaments (no promises)
There hasn't been many non-gunboat (or player-sponsored) tournaments lately. This thread is to gauge the interest in the site of bringing back any of the following tournaments: The World Cup, The Masters, The Leagues. The GFDT is abge's thing, so I won't ask on that.
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2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
31 Jul 14 UTC
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Gunboat SOW - Summer 2014
This is the official thread for the summer 2014 gunboat School of War. gameID=145303
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Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
27 Sep 14 UTC
Waiting on Austria again.
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
27 Sep 14 UTC
He checked the game yesterday and still NMRed. If this goes beyond 24 hours or happens again, I will process the game to avoid another unnecessary holdup.
Kallen (1157 D)
27 Sep 14 UTC
@Austria... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/AngelusLupus/Misc%20and%20humour/picard-facepalm1.jpg
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
27 Sep 14 UTC
BUUUUMP.

Whoever is holding up the game, please enter some orders, dagnabbit.
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
27 Sep 14 UTC
If Austria does not return or answer my message tomorrow, I will process the game as is.
Kallen (1157 D)
28 Sep 14 UTC
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what if we had a prof/TA play for austria, and explain their reasoning behind their moves each phase? surely that would be better than having a complete nmr and/or holding up the game even more to find a replacement
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
28 Sep 14 UTC
Based on some of the feedback I'm getting, I will give Austria more time to return. He has been communicating with his TA, which is good enough for me.
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
28 Sep 14 UTC
Retreats done. Bump.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
28 Sep 14 UTC
Two very significant and telling retreats. England and Austria both made a bold statement. Germany not so much. Given that I can only really comment and these in a manner which would suggest moves for this coming phase, I think it might be good if TAs did the talking in private and I can give my thoughts here later on if they're still relevant.
Hamilton Brian (811 D(B))
28 Sep 14 UTC
Well, I look forward to the commentary then. I have a general sense of what those two retreats mean, but I'd like some confirmation at some point. In my dimwit mind though, I see a high potential restructuring of the top powers.
Kallen (1157 D)
30 Sep 14 UTC
where the Germ at
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
30 Sep 14 UTC
I commented on these retreats a bit after the spring moves before the retreats had occurred, but it sounds like people want some more, so here goes.

Austria - choices were Galicia and Ukraine. Choosing Ukraine would have basically meant giving up completely on holding any home centers and just trying to dig in and hold War and Mos as long as possible. That is almost certainly a strategy that ultimately results in elimination of Austria in this one, so I would say good choice picking Galicia. May all be for naught, but there is at least a chance of holding/retaking some home centers with the additional unit in the mix.

England - choices were Heligoland and North Sea. Each has its pluses and minuses. Hel threatens Kie which is useful for holding Den and/or trying to take Kie from Den. Downside is it leaves Nth empty which precludes convoying future armies from home centers to mainland and fleets alone can only do so much damage. Nth would put England in position to convoy and provide another unit to defend Nor, freeing up Ska or Fin to do other things, but would not be able to attack Kie. Nth would also force Germany to defend Bel since the Channel is also now occupied, but since Hol wouldn't need to defend Kie it could just defend Bel, so no big difference.

Germany - GoB was only possible retreat, so not much to say about this one. Certainly the retreat is better than a disband since we are on a spring phase. If it were the fall it might be worth considering a disband and rebuild in a more useful spot such as Ber or Mun.
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
30 Sep 14 UTC
Autumn bump.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
30 Sep 14 UTC
Well that was interesting. Thoughts on Year 06:

Austria - the good news is you managed to take both Mun and Vie. The bad news is Italy's dislodged army in Tri can retreat to the now vacant Bud so you will still end up losing a unit and still be spread all over the place. The worse news is that Turkey is picking up two builds and will probably start to steamroll you. To me Mun was fool's gold, but now you'll have to decide whether to keep that unit and try to hold it against the German armies surrounding it or disband it. Assuming Italy does retreat to Bud from Tri, he'll also get to retreat from Vie to Tyr or Boh, so Vie will be surrounded by Italy with Turkey headed that way. Good luck.

England - Surprised you didn't take a shot at Kie from Hel with support from Den, but the good news for you is that Austria took Mun so Germany will have to disband a unit. Long run this move helps you a lot more than it helps Austria, so be sure to send him a thank you note. Your units are better positioned at the end of this year than at the start and you suffered no losses, so all in all a pretty good turn. You also are set up to possibly knock Russia out of the game next year if you choose to go that route.

France - still alive, but it is getting tenuous. With England moving to the North Sea Italy may decide to go for MAO and finish you off. Or he might hope you try to defend against that by doing Por-MAO and just waltz into Por from Spa with his army. So good luck on your guesswork next year.

Germany - failing to move to Bur in the spring caught up with you as Austria decided to grab Mun, so now you have to disband a unit and also expend resources taking Mun back while trying to hold off England next year. Your disband options are probably GoB and Brest, neither of which looks great for your long term health in this one. Without the fleet in GoB (which would look a lot more useful in Baltic incidentally, surprised you took an unsupported shot at Sweden, I don't see the upside in that one) England will almost certainly take control of the Baltic next year which is very bad for you. On the other hand without the army in Brest England can probably go grab that from you uncontested with his North Sea fleet. So tough decision coming and you will need to try to stop the bleeding next year. Try to limit your losses to one unit and hopefully offset that with a gain (presumably Mun as I don't see any Enlish centers you can take, maybe Mar if Italy falls asleep and you decide to leave Austria be in Mun).

Italy - things look bleak heading into the retreat phase, but they will look a lot better once Tri presumably retreats to Bud bumping you back up to 7 centers and Austria down to 4. The unit in Vie has Tyr, Boh, or disband all as viable options. Disband and rebuild as a fleet in Naples to use against Turkey or army in Rome to help hold Ven might not be terrible options, though that would mean you almost certainly can't hold Bud next year or take Vie. On the other hand you need to weigh how likely you are to hold Bud next year even if you do retreat to Tyr or Boh from Vie.

Russia - Hitting Nor instead of Mos probably would have been better for your long term prospects, but bleak either way. Nor + Fin looms for year 7, maybe England will spare you again, but he doesn't really need those two units against Germany in the spring, so I wouldn't count on it. I suppose there is always a chance Austria decides to support you from Mos, though I don't see why he would since all you have done the last few turns is attack him.

Turkey - Well done, far and away the best year of anyone. You could have gotten really greedy and thrown Rum-Bud and Sev supports Bla-Rum into the mix, but two builds is still a great outcome. Further good news for you is that Italy and Austria seem unlikely to reconcile any time soon, so by the time bygones are bygones in this game you may very well be on your way to a solo. The weakened Germany also probably helps you as he is going to be so busy knocking Austria out of Mun and trying to hold off England that you will probably be breathing down his neck before he can do anything to slow you down. As always you still need to keep making quality moves, but right now you are in the driver's seat in this one.

Rankings by tier
Solo threat - Turkey
Potential if Turkey stumbles, but best hope might be to force a draw - England, Italy
Just got smacked in the mouth, can he right the ship - Germany
Best days likely behind him - Austria
Terminal - France, Russia
Kallen (1157 D)
01 Oct 14 UTC
Curious..did Italy have the option to retreat to Bud? I thought it was a valid retreat move as well, but since he didn't do so, it makes me wonder if the option was there
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
01 Oct 14 UTC
Italy's army in Vienna attempted to move to Bud, which should remove it as a retreat option if I'm not mistaken.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
01 Oct 14 UTC
I believe the relevant rule is that a unit has no impact on a space that dislodges it, so Vienna's attack on Bud should not preclude Tri (or any other unit besides Vie) from retreating to Bud since Bud dislodged Vie. So I guess Italy missed that or I am interpreting the rules incorrectly. I know for sure that Vie would not have bounced any other unit attempting to move to Bud, so almost positive Bud was available for retreat.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
01 Oct 14 UTC
Am I missing something there 2WL?
Kallen (1157 D)
01 Oct 14 UTC
Easiest way I think is for a prof to ask Italy if he had the option to retreat to Bud in the scroll box
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
01 Oct 14 UTC
I just tried it on jDip and was able to retreat to Bud from Tri following the Italian, Austrian, and Turkish moves in question. Also DATC sections 6.H.9 and 6.H.10 clearly state that a dislodged unit's attack on the space dislodging it does not preclude other unit's from retreating to that space. The text of 6.H.9 included below. Replace Russia's unit in Pru in the example with Italy's unit in Vie, replace Ber with Bud, and replace Kie with Tri.

6.H.9. TEST CASE, DISLODGED UNIT WILL NOT MAKE ATTACKERS AREA CONTESTED

An army can follow.

England:
F Helgoland Bight - Kiel
F Denmark Supports F Helgoland Bight - Kiel

Germany:
A Berlin - Prussia
F Kiel Hold
A Silesia Supports A Berlin - Prussia

Russia:
A Prussia - Berlin
The fleet in Kiel can retreat to Berlin.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
01 Oct 14 UTC
Also FWIW, I'm pretty sure I have done a retreat of this sort on Webdip, so I don't think there is a bug that would have prevented Italy from picking it. He must have either missed it as an option or decided for some reason that he wants Austria at 5 and himself at 6 rather than 4 and 7.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
01 Oct 14 UTC
Bumping for more commentary, especially if Bo or 2WL have any insight into Italy's decision not to retreat to Bud.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
03 Oct 14 UTC
Autumn 1906:

England - I'm a little bit befuddled at why you took such a conservative stance this phase, but you're in no worse position than before and Germany has to disband. In all likelihood, you'll have a build next year, and depending on what Germany disbands, you may get more in the years to come. Still, I would have liked to have seen you in Kiel this phase - it seemed like the time to go for it was now, and Germany nearly gifted it to you trying to rearrange his units. All things said, Germany is still disbanding, which is good for you, and maybe once you take St. Petersburg this next year you can thank Austria for his help by supporting him in Moscow.

France - Interestingly enough, Germany has the option of disbanding Brest. I wouldn't necessarily recommend he do so, but if he does, is it worth giving up your safe haven to get back into your homeland?

Germany - Disbanding is so annoying, but England has you beat here whether you're disbanding or not. You are pretty much stalemated, so try to encourage England to move south with your disband. That's how you communicate in gunboat - unit movement and placement. Sure, he can take the Baltic, but if you rearrange (again) this spring, you can prevent him from taking any of your territory, and his only real alleys would be into Russia or into the Med.

Russia - Oddly enough, you got Turkey's support into Moscow. Very weird and I don't like it. I would have gone for Norway this phase. It was a much better shot at a build. No harm no foul.

Turkey - All of your important moves were the right moves. Trieste was obvious, and getting a fleet into the Adriatic is devastating for Italy. Budapest could be yours this spring, and depending on your build choices, you could secure Moscow and Warsaw within a couple of years. All in all, things are looking up. One question though - why support Russia to Moscow? It was pretty safe to assume that Austria was going to go for northern centers after the retreat to Galicia and let you roam free, so why mess with him? I don't get that.

Italy - Things are looking bleaker by the year. You would have been far better off to support the Western Med into the Tyrrhenian rather than bounce. You have very little in the way of defense and Turkey has at least one, maybe two, more units headed your way next spring. You are more than likely going to disband Bohemia (there's no reason to keep it), but you are still unlikely to hold onto your homeland for more than another couple of years. This is the point where you start considering your escape route.

Austria - You aren't disbanding because of a wise move on Munich, but you will be next year, and again I think you should consider who is friend and who is enemy. Italy's retreat to Tyrolia instead of Budapest was either a misorder or a show of friendship, and if it were a misorder, he would likely have bounced his retreats in Tyrolia and destroyed both. On top of that, Turkey supported Russia to Moscow, which can't make you happy - good job supporting it just in case. Think about whether you could take a shot at your homeland again. It's a long shot, but so is everything else at this point.

On the retreats from the spring phase:

Austria's retreat to Galicia over Ukraine should have signaled to Turkey that he was going to fight for his homeland. I'm not sure why that hint wasn't received, but that's what it told me. Given that, I would have liked to have seen more aggression from Turkey on both of his fronts, maybe going for Budapest from Rumania to forward his line (which would have worked) and taking Rumania with the Black Sea.

England's retreat to Heligoland over the North Sea told me a couple of things. Firstly, he wants more than Denmark, and secondly, he's not chasing Iberia. Since he already indicated that he was gunning for Germany, I think he should have been more aggressive, and Germany lucked out that he simply chose to order holds. Had he been more aggressive, he'd have Kiel and Germany would be all but finished. A missed opportunity.

The other half to that retreat was less obvious (and less feasible given the circumstances), but given that we knew the English Channel fleet would move to the North Sea, the MAO would be open, and if Italy hadn't felt like he needed to use each of his fleets in defense, he could have taken the MAO to secure Portugal next year. I think it was wise to wait since he still has that opportunity this coming year if he feels he can afford to use that fleet up.

Rankings as of this year:

Turkey - the favorite by far and the only one absolutely assured a place in a draw.
England - with a strong push, could become an empire again in the Med. The odds of expanding into Russia are growing relatively slim.
Germany - the focus right now is to hold England out of the homeland. The long-term focus is to keep Turkey out.
Italy - likely to survive if Turkey solos, but it will take half a miracle to get into a draw.
Austria - similarly to Italy, the best realistic scenario is a survival.
France - Portugal may be safe for a little while longer, but extremely unlikely to survive.
Russia - Enjoy your final winter.
Kallen (1157 D)
03 Oct 14 UTC
where da german at
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
05 Oct 14 UTC
bump
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
06 Oct 14 UTC
Bump. Once Germany puts orders in, we'll process.
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
08 Oct 14 UTC
Bump.
KingCyrus (511 D)
08 Oct 14 UTC
Germany.... Where are you...
Kallen (1157 D)
08 Oct 14 UTC
good God germany it's been 3 days...
Der Deutscher ist zuruck.

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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
29 Nov 14 UTC
Protestor Facing 9 Counts of Assaulting Police for Fake Blood
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/occupy-wall-street-protester-busted-nypd-boss-paint-job-article-1.2022996

What the article for whatever reason fails to mention is that he is apparently facing 225 years... for... fake blood on a guy in a suit... yeah, okay... that makes sense.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
24 Nov 14 UTC
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Filthy, Diseased Homosexuals
This guy has been taking lessons in sexual morality from Sbyvl...

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-university-bans-preacher-who-calls-homosexuality-a-filthy-disease-9879579.html?cmpid=facebook
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pirpir (245 D)
29 Nov 14 UTC
Need a new player for England. (Spring 1901)
Hi. we need a new player for England for the game "Diplomatic Language". Trying to get it paused at the moment. The game hasn't gone through the first round yet.

Pls let us know
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krellin (80 DX)
28 Nov 14 UTC
Seeking Cliche's : Powered Armor
Fellow Webdipstanians...perhaps you saw my earlier teaser thread..."Armor" Perhaps not. Anyway, instead of November write a novel in a month, I"m going to do December (10 days off around Christmas...best month for this plan). My novel -- a "Powered Armor" sci-fi schtick. Humorous take on the powered warrior fighting a pointless war.

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pirpir (245 D)
30 Nov 14 UTC
contacting the mod
can we contact the mod through the forum?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
29 Nov 14 UTC
24-hour gunboat
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jcbryan97 (134 D)
29 Nov 14 UTC
Back again, need players
I used to be an active member, but haven't played in over a year. My brother is visiting for thanksgiving and wants to play. It would be great if we could get some players to join us. He played the board game many many years ago, so he's familiar with the game but is new to online play.

Thanks http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=151309
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
27 Nov 14 UTC
I will be playing catan tonight if there is anyone who wants to join me
Catanonline.com.

I am ninjaj
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
19 Nov 14 UTC
2014 Webdiplomacy Tournament Round 2
Looking for feedback. Ultimately there are two options: starting in a few weeks with the next round's games being setup Saturday, December 6, or waiting until after the holidays. I'm not sure how many are traveling, and I'd hate to see a mass-produced for the end of December, but I would also hate to delay the next round as this one is coming to a close. Thoughts?
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Ranscott47 (2874 D)
30 Nov 14 UTC
Non-gunboat Game starting 805PM CST
I'm sick of gunboat. It isn't really Diplomacy at all. Starting in 20 minutes (Sat night)
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
27 Nov 14 UTC
Thanksgiving: What are you thankful for?
Me: Family, health, learning
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
28 Nov 14 UTC
Historical Research Needed?
Sirs,

I was hoping that one of the lads here, perhaps someone young and enterprising, might research the name of a research facility for me?
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Zach0805 (100 D)
28 Nov 14 UTC
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vDiplomacy
I found a website called vDiplomacy.com. It has over 50 varients. You should all check it out. It also has reliability ratings and choose your own countries options. Check it out.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Nov 14 UTC
Given My Name, Seems Only Fair *I* Should Post This...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOVFvcNfvE I haven't seen these movies in years--I stopped being a fan about the time I joined this site...and gave myself this name, lol--but THAT looks pretty cool. A couple odd things in there, but hey...X-Wings and Tie Fighters again, instead of Whateverplanes from the prequels. Now J.J. Abrams just needs the Millennium Falcon to team up with the USS Enterprise! ;) Thoughts, sci-fi people, on the new Star Wars trailer?
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ghug (5068 D(B))
07 Nov 14 UTC
Mafia
So, it failed the last time we tried to restart it, but I really think we should play another game of Mafia here. Signups below, and whoever volunteers to GM is my new favorite person.
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TrPrado (461 D)
29 Nov 14 UTC
Few more for world game
gameID=150973 needs 3 more. World game, non-anon, 24 hour phases, full press, PPSC
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Strauss (758 D)
29 Nov 14 UTC
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It began with an idea...

http://dipwiki.com/images/9/95/Original1958Original.gif

...1958 and captivate to this day many players around the world a long time, some forever. At the first sight the game looks pretty simple, but this prejudice is taught quickly of a better one. Yes, passion is welcome, otherwise it becomes the 'Walk to Canossa'. What you have only done to us, Allan B. Calhamer? Why I couldn't collect beermat...
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
29 Nov 14 UTC
Apple Question
Some of you are techy people, might you be able to help me out?

Apparently my Apple ID is locked because I don't know the answers to my security questions (well, I think I do, but they are apparently wrong) and my rescue email is disabled since I graduated from my high school. Since then, I get notification after notification informing me that I can't access the cloud and now my texts aren't sending. Is this all because of my ID security questions or is something else going on?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
28 Nov 14 UTC
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diplomacy-like chess
I have an idea for a game, it requires one chess board, some paper and pens...
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krellin (80 DX)
28 Nov 14 UTC
Armor
...
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
26 Nov 14 UTC
PBEM New World Order (NWO)
It has 40+ players and it's the wildest ride of Diplomacy you'll ever experience.
Check out the vdip thread:
http://vdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=58068#58068
(don't click; copy)
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Crustymeme840 (100 D)
26 Nov 14 UTC
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Swag of swags
yes swag many swag of all swag
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