Mujus +1 - 'nuff said.

Mujus -1 for jumping in here just to tell us we're done talking.

@Mafia/Putin

Having thought about this now for the past day more than I've thought about it my entire life, this is what I have to say:

In my mind, girl referring to a woman and girl referring to a child were two separate words. Just like there, their, and they're. My brain simply didn't connect the two words together.

Having thought about it now, I agree that if someone didn't know me, they could mistake girl as being dismissive. So, I shall try to not use it when referring to women I don't know.

However, I will not stop using it with my friends. They know my meaning and are not offended by it. I refuse to believe that they are being subconsciously traumatized by me. I also refuse to believe that they wouldn't call me out on it if it bothered them.

Putin, you can go on about male's being more aggressive all you want, but unlike you, I actually know these people. They are assertive, strong-willed, and independent; they don't take shit from people, which is exactly why I'm friends with them in the first place.

If no parties involved are being offended, I still don't see how it is offensive.

This thread actually started with some intelligent questions and some intelligent answers that were actually about the question.

Seven pages later it's turned into a heated discussion between the same old faces about something completely different.

When all you lot have finally got pissed off with arguing with each other and left here, the site will die. Why? Because new players who start intelligent threads about relevant topics will have long since gone, put off by seven pages of arguments by people they don't know talkikng about something they didnt even mention.

Stop and think of the future. Think of the noobs. Create an environment where they might actually want to stay.

I'm really tired of the Mujus's and Check_mates of the people plowing into threads just to complain about them. Some people got something out of this discussion, and I really don't know what you wanted this thread to do anyway. I think this was actually one of the more productive conversations we've had here. There is no shortage of intelligent conversations going on about the game and everything else. Plenty of other forums don't have nearly the depth of discussions we manage to have here.

Putin +1

In clarification - My +1 to Mujus was about his pointing out it's a matter of the times and the context. I enjoyed reading and ocassionally interjecting into this thread.

Yeah, if we followed check-mate's advice all our threads would be things like "Advice on using Italy" or "Welcome to new players" and never go beyond 3 pages. New people are always welcome in the forum, but the fact is, there are some familiar names, and familiar personalities about. New players are welcome to chime in, but if no one here really got into any real conversations with any actual depth with each other, we wouldn't really be much of a community would we?

@Putin - I "plowed into" this thread because the title of it suggested it would contain comment and information I would find useful - search my forum posts and you will find I recently started a thread about the same thing. However, by the end of the first page, it had degenerated into stuff about 15 year old girls and never went back. I'm sorry you feel I was complaining, and yes, I do know that threads go off topic from their titles, but I just feel that when dealing with noobs you could be a little more welcoming.

@Mafialligataor - I think this forum would benefit from a few more "Advice on using Italy" kind of threads. I search for them regularly but all I seem to find is this site's membership's opinions on things like Obama's economic policy and the results of the NFL.....

Its a very Americacentric view of the universe here sometimes. We aren't all American.

"but I just feel that when dealing with noobs you could be a little more welcoming."

That reads wrong. I didn't mean to single out Putin with that "you". I meant the more experienced and vocal members of this site in general.

Ah. I've had Tettleton's Chew muted for so long that I forgot that his threads dominate the first page. That's a fair point.
The problem with the "Advice for using Italy" threads is that like 8 people will comment in them, and then they'll die. There are always exceptions but it's threads like this one that really get people commenting. There are tons of resources on the internet which give strategic Diplomacy advice. This specific community only exists in one place.

"Its a very Americacentric view of the universe here sometimes. We aren't all American." - This debate is not specific to America, though you do need to speak English to be involved in it. And I get the feeling you do speak English.

"There are tons of resources on the internet which give strategic Diplomacy advice." Yeah, thats a fair point as well.

fuck all niggers kthxbai

Some more strategic discussion would be useful. I like Jacob's threads in particular, there's some good discussion there.

^ The end of his name is indicative of his intellect - tinyman...

That Manifestedlydouchebagshithead might make it to my mute section faster than anyone else before. I'm not one to think that "nigger" is a word one must absolutely NEVER use, but I certainly think that this type of provocation isn't worth my time nor the ocular effort to either read it or avoid it.

Dammit Eden! Right in the way. ;-)

Well I didn't wait. Muted.

No, you're still right. "Eden" -> "Garden of Eden" -> perfection -> perfect intellect. ;)

I went and joined in that mute, Cachimbo.

And Eden (both as President and Garden) is a fictonal place or thing, so go ahead and live out your fantasy PE. One day, reality will set in and you'll just be that guy sitting in his mom's basement waiting for her to cut the crust off your peanut butter and jelly. ;-)

Eden's mom can't do that. I got her locked in my basement.

And she likes it.

That's why he's waiting. She isn't there to do it anymore.

My mom's dead, assholes.

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg05i1deVT1qbylvso1_500.png

Everybody sing it with Denis Leary and me! "I'm an asshole, asshole, asshole..."

I'm sorry, is redhouse a "noob"? I wasn't under the impression that he was. What does this have to do with "noobs"?

I think he means Redhouse's friend (who happens to be a woman).

Did she post in the thread? She was spoken for by redhouse, who singled her out in the thread instead of PMing people about the game. I still don't see how this conversation was unwelcoming, but meh.

I have no idea what Check_mate is on about. This thread was civil. Yes it got side tracked but that's okay. He posted his link to a game and the discussion kept the thread near the top.

So is Putin a communist or not?