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krellin (80 DX)
12 Oct 16 UTC
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No Such Thing as Racism
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/lil-wayne-stands-by-his-no-such-thing-as-racism-comment/ar-AAiS5PL?li=BBnb7Kz

Need more REAL men like this in the world. Thoughts on Lil Wayne?
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
12 Oct 16 UTC
Live Games - process delay
I've recently played a live game for the first time in a few months, and I'm finding that the timer counts down to "Now", but then it actually takes 30-40 seconds to process the orders. This means people are able to enter or change orders *after* the phase should have ended.
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cstamm (0 DX)
06 Oct 16 UTC
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Political Views
The campaigns of Clinton and Trump have been running for a little over a year now and political tensions have been running high in the United States. As someone who's relatively new to this site, I couldn't help but wonder whether webdiplomacy players tend to be more liberal or conservative.
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ND (879 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
I know when women got the right to vote and I disagree, but I am not going to get into it.
leon1122 (190 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
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"yes, they are, like you can look at numerous scientific studies and conclude that societal and other norms and practices do favor men over women by a significant amount"

You can look at numerous scientific studies and conclude that societal and other norms and practices do favor women over men by a significant amount

Also, enfranchisement means "admit to citizenship, especially to the right of voting". Social and other norms have nothing to do with enfranchisement.
ND (879 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
^ this
peterlund (1310 D(G))
07 Oct 16 UTC
To be more precise. I am more liberal like this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism
"I know when women got the right to vote and I disagree, but I am not going to get into it."
Wait what do you mean by this? It's very poorly worded.
ND (879 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
I know women got the right to vote in 1920. The 1890s comment was supposed to be a statement on how things have changed since the turn of the twentieth century.

I disagree with your claim/rebuttal of my initial point. I agree with the point Leon made on the subject matter. I am not going to get into a debate about if women are a disenfranchised group. It's stupid to talk about something like that because indicators and data overwhelming suggest that they aren't. There is no point in debating something that is a fact.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
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Oh yes, women are so much better off than men...except in salaries / wages, promotion within organisations, representation on company boards, in Parliament's etc etc

I have no problem with supporters of Trump using " I'm with him" or supporters of Hillary using " I'm with her "... But if someone chooses to make dumb comments about what those statements might mean, as did Leon, then they can expect to have their illogical nonsense called out as such
leon1122 (190 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
"women are so much better off than men...except in salaries / wages"

The wage gap has been repeatedly debunked.

"promotion within organisations"

Women need to give birth and more often than not take care of children. Therefore, fewer women have the ability to take on the responsibility higher positions entail.

"representation on company boards"

Women are, on average, less willing to take risks, so they are less likely to start companies.

"in Parliament"

Same as above; women aren't usually natural leaders.

"But if someone chooses to make dumb comments about what those statements might mean, as did Leon, then they can expect to have their illogical nonsense called out as such"

Nothing I have said or will say is illogical.
Octavious (2701 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
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Men are so much better off than women... except in education, health, children, chances of death in war, likelihood of being jailed, lifespan etc etc
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
Well you are entitled to hold the opinions you do Leon & on many of those we will disagree, and other s are entitled to hold their views..like John Lennon when be used a now politically incorrect slang term for an African American to describe the way too many women are positioned & treated in global terms in a song
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
Oh, women collectively and individually are not powerless I've spent many hours today with two very elderly women from my family and I'm obliged to pander politely to them at all times
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
07 Oct 16 UTC
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Women make up 6.7% of the federal prison population due to much lower sentences. Female child molesters routinely get away with minor or no punishment. Women get custody of children in many states basically by default. Men who are abused by their spouses/partners are routinely arrested when reporting the abuse.

I'm all for equality, I just wish that the people who constantly push for women's rights would push for actual equality.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
07 Oct 16 UTC
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"Same as above; women aren't usually natural leaders."

Beliefs like this are inherently sexist. And dis-empower women.

It is highly likely the leadership is one of those qualities which has a social dimension. So it is how you are raised that makes you likely to exhibit leadership qualities.

If you are called a bitch for telling people what to do, but the boys doing the same are not, you tend to be less vocal and get less experience being a leader (as a child).

There is ample evidence that if women speak 50% of the time (in meeting or similar business contexts) that they are precieved as taking over. (discusses widely in articles like this: http://inthesetimes.com/article/16157/our_feminized_society

“If there's 17 percent women, the men in the group think it's 50-50,” she told NPR. “And if there's 33 percent women, the men perceive that as there being more women in the room than men.” )

It is more correct to say, we* have trained our women to be quiet and not have their voices heard, because this makes it easier to control them.

Than to say they are 'naturally'** not leaders.

*Where 'we' is the patriarchy.

** Whatever naturally means, we are naturally social animals, we naturally form groups, we naturally develop cultural norms, and there are numerous examples of 'natural' matriarchies where women are the leaders.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
Well I cringe when I see men claim to be "feminists".... My reply to being asked if I was a " feminist" would be to say no...I can be persuaded to support some " feminist policy " reforms. Nature created me male so I have to be what I am...so I can't embrace feminism carte blanche... I try to minimize my oppression of women whilst still being a fuddy duddy & opening doors and walking ones step behind & at the ladies side& being polite whenever possible.... One problem is the numbers of individual women who present difficulties in treating them with dignity & remaining polite in their company.. I cannot understand a chap who wants polygamy... and on that I'm off to do something else
TrPrado (461 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
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Women getting off easy in the justice system comes from a perception that women are either too weak to commit the crime or to serve a realistic system.
Durga (3609 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
Do you know who gets off easy in the justice system? White men, mostly with lots of money.
ND (879 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
There we go again.
Durga (3609 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
ND, can I quote you on my profile?
ND (879 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
Only if I can quote you because some of this stuff is just downright untrue and silly.
Durga (3609 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
Oh yeah you can totally quote me. Go for it.
ND (879 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
07 Oct 16 UTC
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@"i'm all for equality, I just wish that the people who constantly push for women's rights would push for actual equality."

The short answer to that is fuck off and do your own pushing. You don't get to tell them what they should advocate for. If you believe in gender equality, you are a feminist, but that doesn't mean you get to decide the adgenda for all feminists.

It is true that patriarchy hurts men. We feel the need to protect women and pay for thigs, when this is becoming less and less economically feasible. We feel the need to hide our emptions and suffer from a lack f social support - which contributes to a higher suicide rate.

NB it is possible to have very high standards that when not reached result in suidice, but for those who reach the the standards still end up with more power and privilege than anyone else.
VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
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Wait are you going to argue that rich white men go to prison often?

cause it's all about proportions: http://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/income.html

So there's your link between poverty and incarceration and:

http://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/raceinc.html
There's your link to race and incarceration.
that was @ND, to be clear.
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
07 Oct 16 UTC
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@orathaic: there are plenty of people bringing up issues that effect men AND women, or just men, but too often they're met with similar responses to yours: "fuck off"

Thanks for being an adult.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
@ ND: Could you define what you think a "cultural marxist" is?

I'm guessing you're going to come out with some ultra right wing neo-reactionary Pat Buchanan shit but maybe I'm wrong...
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
07 Oct 16 UTC
I've never heard the term, but to me it sounds like someone who wants the entire world to have the same culture?
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
Well.oj Simpson spent plenty on white lawyers
orathaic (1009 D(B))
07 Oct 16 UTC
@Chaqa, yes, the message is fuck off telling other people what their campaigning priorities should be. Go ahead and campaign for all you like, and good luck with it, but the exact line i quoted is what i'n responding to...
JamesYanik (548 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
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Just a side point on the economics side of the argument here:

the wage gap originally thought as "females make 78 cents to every 1 dollars a man makes" is mislead

The true statistic is the total amount of earning women made : total amount of earnings men made, on an average

So yes there is a discrepancy, but there are other factors.

-Men work more hours per week on average than women in this country, which is not accounted for.
-Women take more vacation time on average.
-Women are more likely to leave the work force to take care of children
(the last one is a social problem, NOT an economic one that Corporations do)

taking all these into effect, it actually appears that from ages 18-35, women are payed more than men on average WAGES in the same job. This due to hiring practices needing more women, in order to promote "proportional diversity", which is not naturally present in all areas of the work force

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dirge (768 D(B))
08 Oct 16 UTC
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scoring explanation
Can we take another look at our names for the scoring options?
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Deinodon (379 D(B))
11 Oct 16 UTC
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Game Titles
As I peruse other people's games, I've often been amused by game titles. It's a shame we can't see who the clever title authors are. It may not be wise during the game, but it would be cool if it were displayed after the game was over.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
11 Oct 16 UTC
Shit Feminists say...
"'Slut' is attacking women for their right to say yes. 'Friend Zone' is attacking women for their right to say no." - Discuss
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marze1992 (298 D)
11 Oct 16 UTC
Join new live game late night diolomacy
Join join join let s play!
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
07 Oct 16 UTC
Bay Area Diplomacy
Whipping Returns
Downtown San Jose, CA
April 1-2, 2017
[email protected]
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brainbomb (290 D)
11 Oct 16 UTC
At a loss for words
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=183821
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marze1992 (298 D)
11 Oct 16 UTC
JOIN NEWWWWWW GAMEEEES
JOIN NEW GAME annibale o scipione!!! An epic battle in the Ancient Mediterraneous
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marze1992 (298 D)
11 Oct 16 UTC
JOIN SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM
COME ON!!! Join new live game!
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marze1992 (298 D)
08 Oct 16 UTC
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JOIN NEWWWWWW GAMEEEES
JOIN NEWWWWWW GAMEEEES
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
10 Oct 16 UTC
Daily show on Gitmo
https://youtu.be/KEbFtMgGhPY
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peterlund (1310 D(G))
04 Oct 16 UTC
The reputation of the USA in the world
You know guys I am worried...
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brainbomb (290 D)
09 Oct 16 UTC
For Trunk Supporters
Justify this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4ly4h9aCfo
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brainbomb (290 D)
08 Oct 16 UTC
How could Trump even win at this point?
Someone present a hypothetical scenario where fuckwad Trump could actually win?
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
09 Oct 16 UTC
Clinton vs Trump - who would win?
With the US election looming, I'm surprised we haven't had more threads discussing this important issue.
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Lethologica (203 D)
08 Oct 16 UTC
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October Surprise!
SHOCKING new excerpts from Clinton's paid speeches released by Wikileaks reveal that Hillary's...just as boring a speechmaker in private paid speeches as in public ones, I guess?

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56dyvg/wikileaks_appears_to_release_hillary_clintons/
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Hannibal76 (100 D(B))
07 Oct 16 UTC
Why do I still have questions?
Every once in a while I ask a question that I always feel I should know the answer to.
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Halls of Mandos (1019 D)
07 Oct 16 UTC
Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary
Today we celebrate the miraculous victory of Catholic Europe over the invading Turks at the Battle of Lepanto.
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brainbomb (290 D)
06 Oct 16 UTC
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Save the Bees
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/sustainable-agriculture/save-the-bees/
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New Online Diplomacy Podcast!
Some friends of mine from vDip - The Ambassador and Kaner406 - have started up a Diplomacy Podcast focused on the online scene. You can find it here: http://diplomacygames.com/

It's also on iTunes, Overtune and Stitcher (search 'Diplomacy Games'), and should be on Google Play but hasn't appeared there yet for some reason.
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Pimp_Magician (5 DX)
05 Oct 16 UTC
Roleplay
Would there be any interest in a role play game of Dip?
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brainbomb (290 D)
04 Oct 16 UTC
Mitch McConnell blames Obama
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/mitch-mcconnell-paul-ryan-forget-how-run
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delarosa (232 D)
06 Oct 16 UTC
suspicious of multi
Hi admin, could you please check for multi in the game- http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=182721 ; ID#182721
its suspicious as they expended really weirdly.

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taos (281 D)
06 Oct 16 UTC
where do i need to post a missfunction?
When i enter orders from my android ,the bottom order always does not let the option for the next .
It is a minor issue but why not fix it.
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brainbomb (290 D)
05 Oct 16 UTC
Voting for third party candidates- the height of white male privilege.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/im-a-privileged-white-guy-so-im-giving-away-my-vote-this-election/
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KingCyrus (511 D)
05 Oct 16 UTC
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Fix the USA
(or any other country)
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akshu0919 (286 D)
06 Oct 16 UTC
Nightime Gunboats
Gunboat game starting in 30 minutes. Can we please get 7 people to join?
URL: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=183662
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brainbomb (290 D)
07 Sep 16 UTC
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Dakota Access Pipeline Must be Stopped
https://www.google.com/amp/www.ecowatch.com/sacred-burial-grounds-dakota-access-pipeline-1998932006.amp.html
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