"Point to the part where I "talked about [how] much [I] enjoyed some people getting killed."

Right, you just recalled people chanting USA USA USA after an announcement of the Bin Laden raid was made, and how that gave you such a fond memory.

"No! I mentioned a baseball game"

You mentioned the Bin Laden raid. They weren't chanting USA USA USA because the Mets won.

Stop the dishonesty.

There is, mendax! And we're one Brit-volunteer away from filling it

I'm in.

...Sure, what the hell...

We NEED to have maple, Putin, bo_sox and I in the same game. lol

"just busting your ball dude, but by the way do you have any idea how much it would cost for a Seoul ticket?"

No, but it'd be worth any cost.

"so you're not at all perturbed that it's purely coincidental that you cheer the death of osama bin laden, but if you had been born in a different place, given your personality, you would have cheered for 9/11?"

There are three deaths I've ever cheered - Saddam Hussein, the man who rotted in prison for two decades for killing my great grandfather, and Osama bin Laden. One committed genocide, one tore my family apart, and one was part a plot that killed thousands of people. It's funny, too, because Hussein, my great grandfather's murderer, and Osama bin Laden killed unarmed people - isn't that the word you used on page one? They killed unarmed people. They're pathetic enough to this world to do this, so yeah, I cheer their deaths, just like they cheered when they killed people. If you don't understand that, I don't care, and I don't have to defend myself for graciously enjoying the death of that sick bastard.

If that makes me the perfect psychological type to be a "jihadist," awesome, whatever man. Guess you should be glad I'm American if that helps you sleep at night.

Since I'm on the subject, "jihadist" is seriously the most racist word you can use as a substitute for "terrorist" - really, Muslim terrorists that think they are doing their religious duty are no different than American terrorists or any other kind of terrorist, they're all just terrorists to me. If I misunderstand this somehow, enlighten me, because it makes people who use that term come off as undeniably racist.

SSSSSHHHHHHHHH...........bo_sox! :O

Don't DARE accuse Putin of using a non-PC term...

You'll make him cry! (Or, worse, rant some more.)

Woah, Obi, you mean "politically correct" terms can be racist/sexist/other -ist words too?! NO!!!

What 'genocide' did Hussein commit, pray tell? Or do you just lob these bombs at whomever you dislike, evidence be damned? Because after all, all neo-cons have to do is shout genocide and anybody who disputes it is put in league with Holocaust deniers automatically, so win for you. Emotional exploitation of an issue par excellence.

"They killed unarmed people."

Correction, they killed unarmed people that you *like*. Killing unarmed people isn't a problem for you, as you already pointed out.

" If you don't understand that, I don't care, and I don't have to defend myself for graciously enjoying the death of that sick bastard."

Your favorite killers are morally pure, theirs are "sick bastards".

"Since I'm on the subject, "jihadist" is seriously the most racist word you can use as a substitute for "terrorist" - really"

This is as rich as when Krellin comes out and calls people anti-black racists. You, sitting here justifying extra-judicial killings and taking delight in the murder of two people who both happen to be Arabs, calling people "racist" for using the term jihadist. Nevermind that jihadist is a term that groups self-identify with (specifically they use the term "Jihadi" (look at any Zawahiri speech for examples). I do enjoy how you cry about the hurt feelings of people who you delight in their having been murdered because they were called 'jihadist'. That's like Elliot Rodger taking umbrage at misogynistic jokes.

"Woah, Obi, you mean "politically correct" terms can be racist/sexist/other -ist words too?! NO!!!"

Since when was jihadist a politically correct term? Or is this another buzzword you throw around without any actual meaning?

Let me guess, next Bo_Sox48 will insist that 'jihadists' would prefer to be called 'terrorists', and thus is less "racist" a term.

Because up is down and black is white.

"What 'genocide' did Hussein commit, pray tell?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/05/world/middleeast/05iraq.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

"Or do you just lob these bombs at whomever you dislike, evidence be damned?"

No, when I talk about Saddam Hussein and genocide I actually know what I'm talking about, whereas when you talk about Saddam Hussein you don't think he committed genocide, just as Stalin didn't commit genocide, just as the Kim regime doesn't commit politicide. Better yet, I don't just damn the evidence, as you apparently do since you didn't even bother to google "Saddam Hussein genocide" to refute my claim and read the first result, which is the link I posted above. You just come here and think you're smarter than everyone.

"Killing unarmed people isn't a problem for you, as you already pointed out."

Yeah, I go around killing unarmed people. It's what I do, you know, for a living. I'm a hit man. Whatever you're on, can I have some of it?

"Your favorite killers are morally pure, theirs are "sick bastards"."

Yeah, I'm a big fan of Ted Kaczynski. He's my idol. Again, whatever you're on, hand it over.

"This is as rich as when Krellin comes out and calls people anti-black racists."

No, see, when krellin calls people racist, it's funny because he doesn't understand racism. When I call out people as racist, I have a point, because I actually do have an understanding of racism.

"That's like Elliot Rodger taking umbrage at misogynistic jokes."

Would you actually compare someone to Elliot Rodger if you were talking face-to-face or do you only do that over the internet?

"Since when was jihadist a politically correct term?"

Since the media decided that Islamic terrorism was a special kind of terrorism.

"Or is this another buzzword you throw around without any actual meaning?"

Ask your buddy Socrates, he's the one that said it, not me.

Ooooooh, good guess Putin, but no, see, because I don't give a shit what terrorists would like to be called. Shockingly enough, I imagine terrorists that think they're practicing Islamic values when they blow people up align with the word "jihadist" because they think they are practicing jihad by killing, so basically anything that pisses them off is good for me.

Good night, Putin. I look forward to getting the white powdery stuff you're taking in the mail soon. Make sure to saran wrap it and spray it so the dogs can't figure out what's inside, and wrap it nice and tight so it stays fresh for me.

Putin you just got your ass whipped by Botox .... it's looking a bit puffy man, it's pouting.
You suffering some loss of form bro', taking some serious beats on the forum.
If you're not careful you'll be listening to an Eminem song looking for a pick-me-up .... how low can you go?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/05/world/middleeast/05iraq.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Oh this is credible.

Because the very people who benefited from the invasion and occupation of Iraq don't have an interest to rationalizing their takeover by calling Hussein a genocidaire. These are the same people who executed the man in truly barbaric fashion, making him a figure of sympathy even among those who hated him.

What if a Baathist court charged the US with genocide, for killing many times more people than Hussein is accused of here, would you call that credible?

What if a Palestinian court presided over a trial in which Sharon or Netanyahu was charged with genocide, would that be credible?

Absurd.

"I actually know what I'm talking about"

Really, and the best you can do is provide evidence from the kangeroo court that tried and hanged him?

"just as Stalin didn't commit genocide, just as the Kim regime doesn't commit politicide."

Words have meaning. You're apparently content with just shouting genocide and, so long as you can do a lazy google search about it, it's all good to you. And, being a good neo-con, you know full well that so long as you launch these claims against countries which happen to seek independence from US imperium, nobody will do anything about it. Because at the end of the day you can equate them all with Holocaust deniers, as you inevitably will. It's like calling somebody a pedophile. It's an indefensible charge and no amount of evidence to the contrary will convince anybody that somebody is not a pedophile. Especially if that person is already considered a pariah by the Mean Girls who run the International System.

"Yeah, I go around killing unarmed people. It's what I do, you know, for a living. I'm a hit man. Whatever you're on, can I have some of it?"

You just openly admitted you are gleeful at the killing of people *who were unarmed*. Now you're claiming I'm on drugs for reciting your own position back to you?

""Your favorite killers are morally pure, theirs are "sick bastards"."

Yeah, I'm a big fan of Ted Kaczynski. He's my idol. Again, whatever you're on, hand it over."

You cheer with glee at the killing of unarmed people in the Pakistani compound. Don't pretend otherwise.

"When I call out people as racist, I have a point, because I actually do have an understanding of racism."

Not really. You're seriously claiming that terrorist is a less 'racist' term than jihadi.
You're if anything more confused than Krellin.

"You suffering some loss of form bro', taking some serious beats on the forum.
If you're not careful you'll be listening to an Eminem song looking for a pick-me-up .... how low can you go?"

Salty that you got exposed for not having a clue what the State Department has said on the burning alive of the Palestinian boy?

You've now resorted to cheerleading because you can't fight your own battles. Cute.

"Ooooooh, good guess Putin, but no, see, because I don't give a shit what terrorists would like to be called. "

Then why did you just go on a rant about how 'racist' the term was?

You're not making a shred of sense here. You're all over the place. Now you're reverting back to your typical macho posturing.

Is there a coats position open?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/opinion/31PELL.html

From the guy who actually investigated it when it happened. Instead of inventing the story years after the fact.

"No, when I talk about Saddam Hussein and genocide I actually know what I'm talking about, whereas when you talk about Saddam Hussein you don't think he committed genocide, just as Stalin didn't commit genocide, just as the Kim regime doesn't commit politicide. Better yet, I don't just damn the evidence, as you apparently do since you didn't even bother to google "Saddam Hussein genocide" to refute my claim and read the first result, which is the link I posted above. You just come here and think you're smarter than everyone."

Oh <*snap*>. Nice Bo!

Eh, sure, why not, Scoggle...since one of our potential Red Coats, is...um...

Well, anyway, we'll just see who registers first. :p

"Because the very people who benefited from the invasion and occupation of Iraq don't have an interest to rationalizing their takeover by calling Hussein a genocidaire."

Just look up the damn Anfal Campaign and stop trying to make Saddam Hussein sound like a decent guy.

"What if a Baathist court charged the US with genocide, for killing many times more people than Hussein is accused of here, would you call that credible?"

I don't know what the death toll as a result of the American incursions in Iraq are, but if they meet the accepted ICC criteria for genocide, then yes. Care to expand on this?

"What if a Palestinian court presided over a trial in which Sharon or Netanyahu was charged with genocide, would that be credible?"

Uhh, yeah. Of course it would be. Let me guess - you think that because I'm Jewish, I'm completely blind to what Israel does, despite everything I've said on the topic over the years. You think that, because I go to synagogue and have deep conversations about every topic you can ever think of with rabbis, I'm bent over backwards trying to please my Israeli overlords? Am I getting warmer?

"Absurd."

What, that you're making such radical claims on this thread that when you actually say something relatively reasonable I happen to agree with you, you know, since our political views are actually not that far apart, yet because you're so used to being the only one that borders on insane here you isolate yourself and deny that anyone could ever agree with you even if you didn't throw out such crazy accusations and things like that all the time?

Wow, therapy time. Goodie. Hope that run-on sentence works grammatically. Doubtful.

"And, being a good neo-con, you know full well that so long as you launch these claims against countries which happen to seek independence from US imperium, nobody will do anything about it."

Lol, seriously, you think I'm a neocon, just because I'm glad the USA will never have to worry about Osama bin Laden again? In one way I'm a little stunned that that makes sense to you and on another I'm glad you hate Dick Cheney and all his glory as much as I do.

"Because at the end of the day you can equate them all with Holocaust deniers, as you inevitably will."

Do you have a crystal ball? Did you read my palms? What's your secret?

"It's an indefensible charge and no amount of evidence to the contrary will convince anybody that somebody is not a pedophile."

Uhh... except that when people or groups commit genocide there are records and bodies and witnesses...

"Especially if that person is already considered a pariah by the Mean Girls who run the International System."

LINDSAY LOHAN RUNS THE WORLD?!!!?!?!?!?!?!

"You just openly admitted you are gleeful at the killing of people *who were unarmed*. Now you're claiming I'm on drugs for reciting your own position back to you?"

No, I'm claiming you're on drugs for calling me a murderer. Remember? "Killing unarmed people isn't a problem for you, as you already pointed out." Wow. Talk about damning the evidence.

"You cheer with glee at the killing of unarmed people in the Pakistani compound. Don't pretend otherwise."

I cheer at the death of Osama bin Laden just as I would cheer at the death of Joseph Kony or Adolf Hitler or any other vigilante-like militant that commits those kinds of crimes.

"You're seriously claiming that terrorist is a less 'racist' term than jihadi."

Yes, I am. One can only be applied to Islamic "massive crime committers" (since I can't say terrorist, it's racist, apparently...?), one is a word that describes "massive crime committers" of any race/ethnicity/background.

"Then why did you just go on a rant about how 'racist' the term was?"

Because there are millions upon millions (billions? I don't even know...) of Muslim people that don't want the word "jihad," which as you surely know is not in any way at all about terrorism, to be associated with people like bin Laden and groups like Al Qaeda. You're smart and this is a pretty easy puzzle - put it together.

Now, Putin, get off your couch. Drugs. Mail. Now. I want. Baddddddd....

"What 'genocide' did Hussein commit, pray tell?"

As if the Putin, Kim, Assad and Stalin love wasn't bad enough...

Now Putin33 can't even own up to Saddam's genocidal behavior...ah...

I agree with Draug, +1 bo_sox...

May Big Pappi hit one out of the park just for you tomorrow! :D

And Putin...

Once you ask "Genocide? Saddam? WHAT genocide?" you officially forfeit all right to posture as if you know what you're talking about. Or, in WebDip terms:

YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE MIDDLE EAST!

(I don't know if they eat people there, though. Sorry.) :p

"LINDSAY LOHAN RUNS THE WORLD?!!!?!?!?!?!?!"

No, bo_sox--

Regina George and the Plastics do, gah...

Whoever is +1ing Putin, come out come out wherever you are, join the fight, don't be a wuss...

Obi, if there is any time for Papi to smackarooni one, it's tomorrow, because Peavy needs some run support. He's been a decent middle-of-the-rotation guy but he had the second-lowest run support of any starter in the AL last time I looked (which was mid-June, and it certainly hasn't gotten better since).

"Just look up the damn Anfal Campaign and stop trying to make Saddam Hussein sound like a decent guy."

I did. I provided you an article from the guy who actually investigated it when it occurred. I await your response. I doubt I'll get one. The same goes for your pathetic little lackeys. I've had enough of your sad macho posturing. Put up or shut up.

"Whoever is +1ing Putin, come out come out wherever you are, join the fight, don't be a wuss..."

Which one of your handmaidens is actually joining the fight?

Any room left for a Canuck?

If any of you tools actually care about this beyond google searching, which I doubt.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/6811675?selectedversion=NBD7690291

Here's the authors responding to challenges to their report.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1990/nov/22/iraqs-chemical-warfare/