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WildX (0 DX)
06 Sep 12 UTC
join
everybody go join big swam
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LegatusMentiri (100 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
September ghost ratings?
So when do these usually come out?
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
01 Sep 12 UTC
Full Disclosure Game 1 is done.
I have emailed a copy of the press to all players involved in the game that emailed me their press. If anyone else on this site is interested in a copy of the 370 page pdf file, you can email me at [email protected] and I will send it out. I will wait 2 weeks or so to send the copies out since the players that played get first-dibs on viewing the material.
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
05 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: Manga manga
A cool game. Well done, undercover and jdog8!

gameID=98886
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semck83 (229 D(B))
30 Aug 12 UTC
Armed bystander stops ongoing murder
Since so many shootings are getting their own threads lately, I thought I'd post on this person's life being (hopefully) saved by a concealed handgun owner.
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
05 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: Three Little Pigs
gameID=98855 Lol, England made it into the draw.
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krellin (80 DX)
03 Sep 12 UTC
The BASIC American Question
Are you better off today than when Obama took office ? Are you a college grad moving BACK HOME instead of into your first place because you haven't a job?
Job and Salary, college grads....
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
03 Sep 12 UTC
Well I'd love to stay and chat, but I've got to go wait in line at the soup kitchen, then I think I'll spend the rest of the night around a methadone clinic. Have to wake up early to get my welfare check and pick up some food stamps. I'll probably just spend it all on alcohol, though and then just use the stamps to buy Twinkies. Its great being a liberal!
krellin (80 DX)
03 Sep 12 UTC
Angel -do you realize your experience, or lack of it, makes.you MOSTLY useless for most corporations and you should be HAPPY enthuse Obama economy Roger a job.offer instead if being a bitch? You are disconnected from reality....if you are offered a job it is because the company has score that at your price point you are worth it. You are a fucking arrogAnt prick. You are living off savings, etc....yes, because mommy and daddy helped you along the way, white boy. Ducking hypocrite.
krellin (80 DX)
04 Sep 12 UTC
Angel, you will not be in a soup line. You will be sipping premium beer while rejecting job.offers and laughingly the little people like Putin who have to take any contractors their way. You are so much more of an awhile than I scaffold have imagined....and you will more.thatNOBODY is defending you.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
Anyone else think of this krellin/abgemacht exchange along the lines of Yosemite Sam and Bugs Bunny? I can just see krellin shooting off his guns and screaming,

"OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH I HATES THAT ABGE!"
LanGaidin (1509 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
Krellin..I've got no pony in this show but your rantings make even Limbaugh look intelligent. Your argument is nonsensical at best. I assume the entire foundation of it goes something like :

Liberal = mooch
Republican = only valid viewpoint

Those that resort to such simplistic stereotypes and bombastic arguments usually have little else of substance to stand on.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
And yeah--I'm defending him, krellin.

...Granted I'd defend just about anyone vs. you (if it's you vs. Putin I say a caged deathmatch is in order) but still.

So he wants to go to school and focus on that--I don't see what's reprehensible there.

If he wants to turn down jobs to focus, or even just turn down jobs that would be too time-consuming to hold and adequately focus on school, that's fine--

He gets to concentrate, and more jobs for the rest of us, so as long as his parents are fine with it, what's the problem?

I can't quite find fault with someone trying to get a high degree of education...that's rather harder to despise than someone spewing insults (and doing so badly, I might add.)
Willtor (113 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
@Obi: I think Obama will do a dramatically better job for the economy. This is going to sound cynical of me (and I suppose it is cynical), but... I think he'll do a better job because he won't have to run for office, again, and won't be beholden to a Super PAC.
HappyHippo (0 DX)
04 Sep 12 UTC
Whatever the question here is: The Answer Is 42!

(Why bother checking page one when i already have all the answers anyone might need.)
trip (696 D(B))
04 Sep 12 UTC
Krellin's writing in this thread is so atrocious that I don't understand half of what he's trying to say.
Draugnar (0 DX)
04 Sep 12 UTC
No, no, no... No more foreplay. The answer to every question on web dip is...

Wait for it...

Bob Genghiskahn
LanGaidin (1509 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
Crap...Draug nailed it. Bob for prez:) as long as hes not a multi.
Draugnar (0 DX)
04 Sep 12 UTC
Let's see, I do make more money (4 more years experience after all) but I need to make more because the cost of living has gone *way* up with gas at 25% or more higher than before and the costs of other goods I must buy like bread,milk, and eggs have gone up accordingly. Likewise his insurance requirements have resulted in a 50% increase in my monthly premiums on health insurance. So while I make more, my disppsable income has gone down and the goods I would like to buy with my disposable income cost even more.
Putin33 (111 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
The price of milk & eggs has gone down since Jan. 2009. The price of bread is up by 5 cents.

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost

The only way Republicans stop lying is if they stop talking.
Putin33 (111 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
Do you really think the overall economy was doing better in Jan 2009, and if so what planet are you on?

http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/06/news/economy/jobs_january/

"The latest job loss is the worst since December 1974, and brings job losses to 1.8 million in just the last three months, or half of the 3.6 million jobs that have been lost since the beginning of 2008."

2 million jobs lost in *three months* From Nov. 2008 - Jan. 2009.

Meanwhile every Republican governor is bragging about job growth in their states. Funny how that works.
kanosha (87 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
The questioned isn't are you better off now than 4 years ago...but under which president will you be better off in 4 years??
Putin33 (111 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
Considering Romney's team (including & especially his economic team) looks a lot like GW Bush's, we know the future by looking at the past.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/10/romneys-team-starts-to-look-like-bushs/?page=all
Putin33 (111 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
And for those who think Romney & Obama would have the same foreign policy, look at his foreign policy team - a bunch of Cheneyites.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/07/25/576331/romney-foreign-policy-advisers/
Draugnar (0 DX)
04 Sep 12 UTC
No, I answered the question as asked. And I believe this pathetic trend of tax and spend and ignoring the real economic issues will continue under Oblamer. He spent the last four years blaming everything on his predecessor instead of taling action to save American jobs like revoking the H1B Visas and NAFTA so that companies would be encouraged to keep jobs here rather than ship them overseas and to make those jobs go to unemployed Americans instead of foreign natoonals (read Indians) who live in cheap rentals at maximum capacity and send.their money out of the states to their families back.in India.
smcbride1983 (517 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
I'm better off. But I'm a mooch too. I lived off my girlfriend's job while I cared for our newborn daughter. Now I live in her house while I go to grad school. I work at school to offset the cost and will get a teaching assistance ship next year. But, since I'm at a public institution a lot of that money will come from the government. Meanwhile my GF still takes care of me.
smcbride1983 (517 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
I am a little confused. Mitt told me I should borrow money from my parents until I can get on my feet but the republican masses say I am a scourge on society if I do? It is even more concerning when you realize that I'd what mitt and Donald trump and many other wealthy people have done as well.
Putin33 (111 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
You can't claim he took no action while bitching about the actions he did take, like the stimulus & the jobs plan which the GOP obstructed. Where are the GOP job bills? Nowhere to be found.

And what did the Republicans do with the Bring the Jobs Home Act which Democrats proposed? Oh right, killed it. Keep the hypocrisy coming.

Putin33 (111 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/239029-republicans-blocked-the-democrats-insourcing-bill
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
04 Sep 12 UTC
@draug

Romney wants to decrease taxes and increase military spending. How is that a better economic plan. It seems to me that both parties ant to run the economy into the ground, but at least I get healthcare with Obama...
Alias72 (100 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
Fun to be a Canadian. you get to see the fireworks but your not too close when they blow up in someones face. musings aside, Obama is not that bad, that is to say he hasn't made things worse (you could debate that it is a little better or worse but it is nothing like Q4 2008- Q1 2009)

Another interesting trend is how during every single economic event in history the leader of the country is held fully responsible for the crisis and recovery. (note i am not passing judgement merely stating an interesting point)

now for something finite. the leaders of a nation play a role in economic difficulties. this role is greatly exaggerated in almost every case. most often the cause of economic collapse is the result of something deep in the economy, that experts say is fine up until it breaks.

in 1929 this was inflated stock prices. the problem is everyone was making money and so had no reason to believe the prices were inflated until the bubble burst.

in 2009 it was the result of mortgages, extreme debt, and the insuring and selling of this debt without regard for the risk involved.

if Bush had regulated mortgages this wouldn't have happened. He would also have been more despised because a bunch of people wouldn't have been able to buy there homes (they are ironically the people who lost there homes and are now upset anyway.)

furthermore if Bush had regulated this market then he would have proven the existence of divination because there is no way he would have been better equipped to find an economic problem then the economists who messed up.

Finally if Obama hadn't bailed out the major companies (he wasn't the one primarily responsible for this by the way. in fact there is a team of a few economists whos job is to save countries around the world from financial collapse. they were likely upset to learn they had to save there own country) then every major bank and insurance company in the united states would have gone bankrupt. everyone with a credit card, mortgage, loan, investments through these banks, and insurance would see the following.

1. they would immediately receive a notice informing them that they need to repay there loan. this is likely to bankrupt anyone with a mortgage (even a stable one) as they would be forced to pay this back in full.

2. no one would be able to borrow money. cash or certified check only. and this is assuming you can find a bank to write checks.

3. if you have insurance you don't. meaning if you get sick or have an accident you're on your own even if you made the payments.

4. money in the bank is gone. the bank doesn't have it. it may be your money, but because the bank has no physical currency left they can't give t to you. sue them if you want, you'll probably win but they still have nothing to give.

and THIS is why the bailout was a good move. though everyone who was involved loathed it in its entirety. after all the second last thing the government wanted was to give money to the people who just screwed everything up. but the first thing that the government didn't want is listed above.

Putin33 (111 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
Such nuanced analysis has no place in a world where everybody expects instant miracles with no costs and nobody bothers to look at history.
Draugnar (0 DX)
04 Sep 12 UTC
@Abge - The question presented was purely aboit Oblamer. Romnot is no better and I am voting third party this time around. My vote may not alter anything, but at least I can say I'm not to blame when America finally goes to hell in a handbasket.
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
04 Sep 12 UTC
Before this thread I considered myself pretty conservative, and certainly not liberal. krellin is pushing my farther to the left with each of his posts of nonsensical blathering. Everything you say krellin is so incredibly ageist it is insufferable. You see such little value in anything besides experience
Alias72 (100 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
"...He spent the last four years blaming everything on his predecessor instead of taking action to save American jobs like revoking the H1B Visas and NAFTA so that companies would be encouraged to keep jobs here rather than ship them overseas..."

Quote by Draugnar

I would like to refute the suggestion to revoke NAFTA. Free trade agreements are a blessing and a curse. and the WTO is just a bunch of free trade supporting fools. when you sign a free trade agreement your economy, and the economy of the other signatories effectively become one. there are no barriers to production and consumption in either state. the larger the economy the faster it "can" grow.

free trade agreements increase the number of consumers that can buy and the number of producers that can sell. generally this increases the strength of the economy. This however makes one assumption. that the markets of the two nations are in equilibrium. (the prices are in balance such that they tend not to change)

problems arise when you sign a free trade agreement with a nation where labor is much cheaper. the wages will attempt to reach equilibrium. the large cheap workforce in the other state will attract jobs until the wages balance (which they do eventually because the supply of workers is used up and companies start to compete for labor)

NAFTA unites Canada the United States and Mexico. both Canada and the United States have economies in or very close to equilibrium. Free Trade is beneficial to both. Mexico has a slightly diminished price with it's labor, but it is not enough to cause significant harm.

what is harmful is the low tariffs on the People's Republic of China. labor is so cheap there that even with existing tariffs it can be thousands of times cheaper to produce a good in China and ship it here (North America)

there are only two ways to bring the jobs back to North America.
1. stop trading with nations who have a smaller value for labor (this hurts the economy in the long term, and can isolate nation from the rest of the world hurting its growth.)
2. remove the minimum wage and allow the price of labor to reach equilibrium. (this will not destroy the country but can hurt a lot of people short term. and the president would never be re-elected after this)
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
04 Sep 12 UTC
@Alias72, your economic view regarding international trade and labor wages is simplified to a point where what you are saying just isn't true. There are many more factors involved, and just because wages are lower in China does not mean that trading with China is hurting the U.S. economy.
Alias72 (100 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
"....You see such little value in anything besides experience" Tom Bombadil

I agree to an extent. Krellin was very rude with his reply. It was entirely unnecessary for him to start insulting you. that said what he was saying is by no means "ageist". I am certain he would have insulted you if you were an 80 year old who had no experience.

one thing though. let's look at this from a new perspective. I am an employer. It costs money to hire people, and I work hard for my money. I want someone who is going to be successful so i dont waste my time with a fool.

two people show up. one has worked 3 jobs successfully and the other has worked none but shows "promise". one person can demonstrate that he can be successful, the other person cannot. this doesn't mean that either one will succeed, but the person with experience has proof, and so i choose him.

employers do not think you are incompetent, they just want to make the best decision. the decision they make may not be the best for you, but it is the best for their business, and to demand that they jeopardize their business by hiring the first person to walk through the door would be selfish, so instead it is better to go to many places, apply for many jobs, and if you can't find one, then try to make one.

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shikari (231 D)
05 Sep 12 UTC
Multiple Accounts
I think someone is using multiple accounts, what's the process for reporting them or whatever.
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
05 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: Ancient Med-60
....or, Mannerbroheim is a jerk.
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
05 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: Oba su pala
You outguessed me around Warsaw, you sons of bitches...
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
11 Jun 12 UTC
Official Thread for School of War Summer_12 Game 1
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=91053 for those that wish to follow along. Questions from the general public are encouraged as the game goes on and our panel of Professors would be happy to elaborate on our thoughts of why we think we're seeing what we are. Students and TA's are prohibited from posting here, however.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
24 Jul 12 UTC
+++Boyz of Summer 2012+++
New Tourney 24hr phase 5 games 5 D WTA 3 x GB 1xPublic/1xFull Press.....
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
"*Blank* Fundamentalism," "The Media," and Other Double Standards
When it's MSNBC/CNN/the BBC/ABC, etc, it's "The Media," always "out to get" the Right and praise the Left--but then, when it's FOX, it's "Fair and Balanced."
When it's "Atheist Fundamentalism" (someone who holds this view, please, tell me what you mean by it) it's to be stopped--but make them Christian Fundamentalists, and suddenly, apologists crop up everywhere...why the double standard?
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krellin (80 DX)
20 Aug 12 UTC
FANTASY FOOTBALL!
All right....who is setting up a league...If nobody volunteers, I'll set one up on Yahoo. I'm taking names...and *will* be kicking ass. To make it interesting...anyone want to do For $ league?
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piping_piper (363 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
EoG - WTA-GB-161
gameID=98800

What was with players just wanting to give up? The game was totally salvageable after England missed the first turn and even he realized it.
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Buddamoose (427 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
Gunboat-365 EOG
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NKcell (0 DX)
03 Sep 12 UTC
Video chat option?
What do you think guys? Sometimes writing a long message to another person just doesn't fit well...it's cumbersome. Would anyone else think that adding a google+ or Skype video chat option to chat games would be a good idea?
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thatwasawkward (4690 D(B))
02 Sep 12 UTC
EOG: Bellum Omnium Contra Omnes-2
gameID=93483

Good game to everyone involved.
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
04 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: 1740 Batavia massacre
Conclusion: Nudging Warshaw doesn't work... or, there are only so many units that can support Munich. Well done, ThaHunters. An admirable effort, Decima Legio. Too bad for the CD's.
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panagiotis1285 (347 D)
04 Sep 12 UTC
i realy need some help!
in this game: gameID=98338#gamePanel i play with turkey.
in my last turn i tried to attack via convoy from con to rumania and support move from sevastopol.
in the thread http://webdiplomacy.net/datc.php#section6 , 6.f.3 to be specific it says that that move is ok , but in the game it failed! Can anyone help me out?
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Dorian Gray (164 D)
02 Sep 12 UTC
Delete my account
Hi, does anyone know how I can delete my account?
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President Eden (2750 D)
31 Aug 12 UTC
GOP Uses Teleprompter to Conduct Live Vote on Rules Change
http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/gop-uses-teleprompter-to-count-votes
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Vikesrussel (839 D)
02 Sep 12 UTC
plz tell me why
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=98093&msgCountryID=0
Im france vs Germany.
It should be a push. or I get Belgium . Plz explain how I lost the fight.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
01 Sep 12 UTC
Presidential Knife Melee
http://faceintheblue.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/in-a-mass-knife-fight-to-the-death-between-every-american-president-who-would-win-and-why/

So go at it
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apfel (100 D)
03 Sep 12 UTC
Hey, how can I delete my account?
I cannot find it... :)
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Putin33 (111 D)
03 Sep 12 UTC
Obi's hero on sports
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/02/04/fool-s-gold.html
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Spring War-8
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=98646

What the hell happened, Italy?
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
03 Sep 12 UTC
My First Apperance on a Black List
I just got my name on a player's profile black list. Thanks thatonekid!!! I feel like an offical troll now >:}
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
02 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: Mojibake
Well, if that wasn't the best stab I ever made! gameID=98618
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Skittles (1014 D)
03 Sep 12 UTC
EoG: WTA gunboat - 50 bet
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