jeff kuta, ssorenn and uclabb, i have not had any real preferences for the elections that i have been alive in, Hillary Clinton seemed like a decent candidate and I think she is a good option. Otherwise there has never been a 'your guy' as i have heard mentioned 100s of times in this thread. Jeff Kuta in specific, I understand, but sometimes the other options just dont have any quality. I think it is as much my right to vote as it is not to vote. Not endorsing something I don't support should be an accepted option

Jamiet99uk That is what i refering to, post WWII they were in shambles up until they went Nuclear. I never said it was recent...

But I do believe Nuclear power has a good place in our future

@ JamesYanik: "post WWII they were in shambles"

Um, WHAT? You do realise that during WWII France was invaded and occupied by Nazi Germany, and that in 1944 much of WWII was waged over France's terriority, right? That's going to have some impact on France's economic performance. You're a fool if you think that France's domestic electricity generation policy was the main influence on France's economy in the immediate post-WWII situation.

And i think votes should be earned. not a 50-50 chance. If you didnt do well convincing me you were ready to serve this country then you can forget my ballot

Don't emulate anything the French do, except that they make great wine.

@ssorenn you obese adriatic lobster, they also have crepes

The crepes are better in holland. But I'm guessing you have not been to either.

croissants are pretty good.

Crepes are fantastic wherever they are from.

Otherwise, French healthcare is worth expanding around the world.

If you'd like to have a heart attack but yeah they're good.

The French pay 50% to the state. The health care better be good. All the rich are leaving

ive been to both actually. over the summer i went on a school sponsored trip to Switzerland, England, France, Italy, Holland, Greece, Turkey, and a Mediterranean Cruise. It was amazing but youre right the French crepes aren't the best, the best I had were in Mykonos. But in Holland, for breakfast: the best oranges ever. I ate at least a dozen in the first hour of my time there!

back to the original point: Nuclear Crepes, can they be made?

If you're ever in Amsterdam, two blocks from Anne Franks house is a place called the pancake bakery. Do yourself a favor and check out the crepes there.

I will now! youre getting me hungry ssorenn

The French pay more than 50%. I've heard upwards of 80%. For a regular citizen, it pays dividends, and they are doing just fine whether the rich portion of the population is leaving or not. The healthcare is better than it is in the United States and it's also free. I don't see a downside to that.

The best oranges are in East Asia.

No, you don't seem to get it, as that upper one percent leave, more of the burden falls on the less fortunate. Again you show how little you know.

I'm a runner so we naturally love Chocolate Milk, but recently my love for Orange Juice has been reinvigorated

But you are all missing the point. Egg Nog is clearly the most satisfying beverage.

"@ JamesYanik: "post WWII they were in shambles"

Um, WHAT? You do realise that during WWII France was invaded and occupied by Nazi Germany, and that in 1944 much of WWII was waged over France's terriority, right? That's going to have some impact on France's economic performance. You're a fool if you think that France's domestic electricity generation policy was the main influence on France's economy in the immediate post-WWII situation."

Holy shit i just saw this; Jamiet you dumbass, WWII happened, France was in distress. after WWII they weren't well off anyways. Once they went nuclear it helped... what are you even arguing??? Nuclear power was 30 years after WWII bro, it took them a while to get back on their feet and nuclear power helped!!!

and vashta makes another good point, maybe the eggnog of society is... wait. that was literal

I am well aware of that, ssorenn. My entire point is that we could easily implement free healthcare and good free healthcare in most nations around the world without having to pay 50% or anything remotely near that. We might have to pay a few dollars extra each month, but when someone has to get anything from an X-Ray to a massive operation, it's affordable.

bo_sox48 i wonder what the exact amounts would be... i dont think it would be just a few dollars a month though

With 350 million people, it wouldn't be anything drastic. Even if the number was higher, it would come into place so gradually that it really wouldn't have any major effect on the individual other than cheaper and eventually free healthcare.

but Obamacare :P BUT SOCIAL SECURITY :P BUT!!!! AMERICAN!!!! LOGIC!!!! :P

@ JamesYakking: "Holy shit i just saw this; Jamiet you dumbass, WWII happened, France was in distress. after WWII they weren't well off anyways. Once they went nuclear it helped... what are you even arguing??? Nuclear power was 30 years after WWII bro, it took them a while to get back on their feet and nuclear power helped!!! "

You're asking *me* what I'm arguing? You proclaimed French nuclear power as if it was a policy decision made in recent years. I pointed out it wasn't. *You* were the one who then responded by dribbling about WWII. I hadn't mentioned WWII until you did.

What are *you* arguing? Did French nuclear power drag them out of a post-WWII economic depression? Not really. Has France's economy boomed in the last few years due to increased investment in nuclear? Not really.

What is *your* point?

But what about muffins. Personally I love muffins, they are scrumptious versatile and are as close to a cupcake you can come while still being healthy. In fact muffins are a lot like society. A muffin comes in all shapes and sizes, and are delicious. However, at the end of the day, a muffin is a bit dissapointing. Everyone really wants to have a cupcake, the cupcake is a utopia, but guess what you can't have the cupcake, you have to work for it. So guess what, sit down and eat your goddam muffin, LAWRENCE! AND DON'T YOU DARE GET ME STARTED ON GREEN BEANS!

Sorry, where were we, oh yes, Australia.

With a reputedly relatively unhealthy population and a notoriously inefficient medical system as a starting base, one would expect an American adoption of European style free at the point of use healthcare to be a painfully expensive affair. Although it is probably a good idea, a cheap idea it ain't.